Comments on: ESPN.com: Knicks waive Joakim Noah, will clear cap space for 2019 https://knickerblogger.net/2018/10/espn-com-knicks-waive-joakim-noah-will-clear-cap-space-for-2019/ Knicks, Stats, Humor, Analysis. Mon, 15 Oct 2018 09:22:34 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.1 By: Knick fan not in NJ who thinks our rookies will lead us to a lousy lottery pick in 2019 https://knickerblogger.net/2018/10/espn-com-knicks-waive-joakim-noah-will-clear-cap-space-for-2019/#comment-631842 Mon, 15 Oct 2018 09:22:34 +0000 http://KnickerBlogger.Net/?p=17101#comment-631842 Thanks for the info. Am I right they had to do the stretch now, once they waived him, and couldn’t wait until later?

]]> By: Brian Cronin https://knickerblogger.net/2018/10/espn-com-knicks-waive-joakim-noah-will-clear-cap-space-for-2019/#comment-631841 Mon, 15 Oct 2018 08:17:39 +0000 http://KnickerBlogger.Net/?p=17101#comment-631841 In reply to Knick fan not in NJ who thinks our rookies will lead us to a lousy lottery pick in 2019.

Same amount of years as Noah (slightly more, technically). He was in the middle of his second season (out of a four year deal). Although, I recalled them outright cutting him but now I’m seeing some reports that said that they did end up stretching him, as well.

]]> By: Knick fan not in NJ who thinks our rookies will lead us to a lousy lottery pick in 2019 https://knickerblogger.net/2018/10/espn-com-knicks-waive-joakim-noah-will-clear-cap-space-for-2019/#comment-631840 Mon, 15 Oct 2018 07:41:32 +0000 http://KnickerBlogger.Net/?p=17101#comment-631840 I think the Pistons did release Smith outright. But I think he didn’t have as many years remaining on his contract as Noah does. Maybe he had one year, if I recall correctly?

]]> By: Brian Cronin https://knickerblogger.net/2018/10/espn-com-knicks-waive-joakim-noah-will-clear-cap-space-for-2019/#comment-631839 Mon, 15 Oct 2018 03:57:42 +0000 http://KnickerBlogger.Net/?p=17101#comment-631839 In reply to Z-man.

No worries, I just thought maybe some other guy had been stretch waived that I forgot about. A few other guys have been stretch waived, right?

By the way, didn’t the Pistons just release Smith outright? They didn’t stretch him, did they?

]]> By: Z-man https://knickerblogger.net/2018/10/espn-com-knicks-waive-joakim-noah-will-clear-cap-space-for-2019/#comment-631838 Mon, 15 Oct 2018 02:23:54 +0000 http://KnickerBlogger.Net/?p=17101#comment-631838 Doh, you’re right, it was Detroit! Don’t know why I was thinking Toronto.

]]> By: Brian Cronin https://knickerblogger.net/2018/10/espn-com-knicks-waive-joakim-noah-will-clear-cap-space-for-2019/#comment-631837 Mon, 15 Oct 2018 02:13:02 +0000 http://KnickerBlogger.Net/?p=17101#comment-631837 In reply to Z-man.

It’s not a franchise-crippling move. Toronto somehow built a good team after jettisoning Josh Smith.

Just curious, which team/player did you mean here? Smith never played for Toronto, right? And the team that jettisoned him, Detroit, sort of sucks, no? I would agree that Detroit’s suckiness is not due to Smith, though. I just wasn’t sure if you meant another player on Toronto. I can’t think of anyone off hand.

]]> By: Stratomatic "Porzingis, Ntilikina, Knox & Robinson are going to lead us to the promised land https://knickerblogger.net/2018/10/espn-com-knicks-waive-joakim-noah-will-clear-cap-space-for-2019/#comment-631836 Sun, 14 Oct 2018 22:54:20 +0000 http://KnickerBlogger.Net/?p=17101#comment-631836 I like Robinson as a prospect. He’s long, a good shot blocker, rebounds the ball, and is a superior athlete. But right now he’s probably going to get into foul trouble a lot on defense and can’t do anything on offense other than dunk. From the look of his shot and FTs in limited minutes, I don’t think it’s going to be tough limit or stop him. They may even start a “hack a Robinson” strategy to put him on the FT line.

]]> By: Stratomatic "Porzingis, Ntilikina, Knox & Robinson are going to lead us to the promised land https://knickerblogger.net/2018/10/espn-com-knicks-waive-joakim-noah-will-clear-cap-space-for-2019/#comment-631835 Sun, 14 Oct 2018 22:45:49 +0000 http://KnickerBlogger.Net/?p=17101#comment-631835 The right thing to do with Noah was dependent on whether he is likely to get any offers in the NBA now and our chances of landing a legitimate star free agent next year. If Noah has offers we could have played hard ball and gotten a discount. Just dump Kornet. We (fans) are more or less operating blind in that regard because we don’t know whether Noah is having negotiations and we don’t know what player agents are saying to the Knicks off the record about next year’s FA class.

Phil made a mistake giving Noah 4 years, but this management team destroyed any chance of salvaging the situation last year. I don’t care what anyone here says, he came to camp off surgery and wasn’t entirely fit. So he looked bad. When he finally worked himself into condition he was still a better all around C than either Kanter, O’Quinn, or Hernangomez. It was short lived, but he could still play enough. Then he got hurt again, used PEDs to try to recover, and was never given a chance to play again.

They screwed up the Noah , Hernangomez, and O’Quinn situations.

If they were going to let O’Quinn walk for nothing, they should have taken anything they could get for him and played Hernangomez and Noah instead. That would have kept both those guys happy. Then we would still have Willy (who looks good) and could eventually stick Noah at the end of the bench to work with our bigs as was originally intended (including Robinson) and buy him out later. They had 4 Cs and poisoned the situation with 3 of them. The only one left (Kanter) is probably going to leave for nothing or get overpaid by us.

]]> By: Z-man https://knickerblogger.net/2018/10/espn-com-knicks-waive-joakim-noah-will-clear-cap-space-for-2019/#comment-631833 Sun, 14 Oct 2018 21:37:29 +0000 http://KnickerBlogger.Net/?p=17101#comment-631833 I probably wouldn’t have done it, but I’m not sure the outcome is any different than if they waited so now vs. later is irrelevant to me. They already made it clear that they intend to be players in the FA market next summer. That pretty much eliminated the chance of a non-stretch waive or play it out. Carrying a dead roster spot is never ideal, so I guess getting rid of Noah’s rotting carcass and not having it hanging over the team as a source of endless drama and speculation is worth something. It will just take 2 more years to get rid of the stench completely.

It’s not a franchise-crippling move. Toronto somehow built a good team after jettisoning Josh Smith. At the end of the day, this team will rise or fall with KP and the other rookie-scale kids. The $6.5 mill shouldn’t make that much of a difference in those two years if good decisions are made between now and then.

]]> By: Owen https://knickerblogger.net/2018/10/espn-com-knicks-waive-joakim-noah-will-clear-cap-space-for-2019/#comment-631832 Sun, 14 Oct 2018 20:58:22 +0000 http://KnickerBlogger.Net/?p=17101#comment-631832 Well, it’s unanimously considered a dumb idea. Seems we found something we can all agree on.

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