Comments on: Knicks Morning News (2018.09.23)

By: bobneptune

bobneptune — Mon, 24 Sep 2018 10:46:16 +0000

Sort of an interesting piece about players and max deals and fits with the KP discussion:

https://hoopshype.com/2018/09/23/max-contract-talks-a-behind-the-scenes-look-from-nba-execs-agents/

By: Knick fan not in NJ at this time

Knick fan not in NJ at this time — Mon, 24 Sep 2018 02:22:19 +0000

I am kind of happy with the Timberwolves owner. He’s overruling Thibideau in the right way. Of course Thibs wants Butler for as much of the season as possible, but Butler’s value will only go down the longer the trade takes. It’s better to do it now. So the owner stepped in when he should have.

By: Bruno Almeida

Bruno Almeida — Sun, 23 Sep 2018 23:43:23 +0000

I’m honestly kinda rooting for the Raptors to go for a deal. They could offer a pretty good deal in terms of young players (a package around Ibaka’s contract, plus one or two of Anunoby, Siakam or Wright) and have all their picks starting in 2020. It would be a very strong core that might be better than Boston is Leonard is fully healthy, they could start Lowry, Butler, Anunoby or Siakam, Leonard and Valanciunas and be a nightmare defensive team with a lot of versatility and good scoring. As good as the Celtics are, the Raptors could conceivably go into a series against them with the two best players in the matchup. I don’t see how any team outside of Golden State gets past this defense.

By: Z-man

Z-man — Sun, 23 Sep 2018 23:38:27 +0000

Congrats to Tiger. Love him or hate him, it’s an exceptional accomplishment, and will make his peers and all levels of the global golf enterprise a lot of money. I watched the end of the final round in the grille room at Winged Foot after playing as a guest. Good golf day!

By: The Glass Half Rebuilt

The Glass Half Rebuilt — Sun, 23 Sep 2018 22:50:53 +0000

I think Dellavedova, Khris Middleton, and 2020 1st round pick swap rights should get the deal done, or something like this:

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y7pcdht4

Butler to Milwaukee might be the best thing for the NBA. I hope that’s who makes it happen.

By: Bruno Almeida

Bruno Almeida — Sun, 23 Sep 2018 22:41:57 +0000

I think Milwaukee is the best fit probably, but they don’t have their 2019 pick and can’t trade 2020 too. It would have to be a package centered on either Bledsoe or Brogdon plus Minnesota taking back one or two of their bad contracts in Hanson, Snell or Dellavedova. They could include Middleton but he’s also expiring and is a good player who’s probably going to get big offers next summer. Portland is intriguing too, as they would be a much better team with him, even straight up for McCollum.

By: The Glass Half Rebuilt

The Glass Half Rebuilt — Sun, 23 Sep 2018 22:27:52 +0000

I wonder how much money Joakim Noah is going to give up in his buy out. The Noah buyout makes the Lee contract more valuable (since the Knicks won’t be desperate to free up money), but I’m still against it as a whole. Save it until you know you need it, and let Joakim Noah earn his minutes as a back up center. Mitchell Robinson doesn’t have to play a lot.

As far as Jimmy Butler goes, I think Milwaukee should trade for him. They won’t be the best 3 point shooting team, but Bledsoe, Butler, and Giannis would make life hell for opposing offenses and they’d be a good offensive unit too. It would make the Eastern Conference very interesting, with all four of Boston, Milwaukee, Philly, and Toronto having a legit shot at getting to an NBA Finals.

By: Bruno Almeida

Bruno Almeida — Sun, 23 Sep 2018 18:20:22 +0000

Butler is not open to going anywhere, his list of teams means the teams he’s willing to re-sign with eventually as of now. He doesn’t have a no trade clause so he’ll go wherever they trade him too, but whoever picks him up has no guarantee they’ll be able to keep him for more than a rental.

It makes sense for New Orleans but they have literally zero assets, unless Minnesota loves Mirotic or E’Twaun Moore for some reason. Toronto has assets and has been rumored to be in discussions too.

The point is that for Minnesota, the time when Towns said he couldn’t coexist with Butler is the time you have to trade Butler. There’s no way you give up a 22 year old about to be under team control for 5 more years with Towns production for one more year of Butler and then he’s gone either way. It doesn’t matter much if Towns is lazy or whatever, you always trade Butler and hope Towns fixes his issues.

By: Donnie Walsh

Donnie Walsh — Sun, 23 Sep 2018 17:15:43 +0000

If Butler was open to going anywhere, why wouldn’t New Orleans and Toronto be fighting over him? Either would make the league so worth watching this year.

By: Frank O.

Frank O. — Sun, 23 Sep 2018 17:13:40 +0000

So Butler and Wiggins had a problem…so Minnesota gets rid of Butler?

Who is 29.
Is anyone worried that there is something about Butler that is problematic. I mean Wiggins?

I’m all in on developing the talent the Knicks have. I’m tired of seeing them pay for past performance, or taking that hail Mary and offering too much.

Frankly, watching young guys develop is way more interesting winning 29 games than watching a bunch of old guys and has beens and never weres win 29 games. At least there is the hope of an upside.