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		By: Ingmarrrr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2018 06:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Someone here was wondering if Shaq on a contender would have made a difference against GS. Hmm, I&#039;d say he&#039;d change the entire picture of the last few years if you paired him with LeBron in Cleveland.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone here was wondering if Shaq on a contender would have made a difference against GS. Hmm, I&#8217;d say he&#8217;d change the entire picture of the last few years if you paired him with LeBron in Cleveland.</p>
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		By: Donnie Walsh		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2018 05:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This conversation has made me realize that Curry is basically a modern day Shaq. There was no way to stop Shaq except to give him a bear hug when he had the ball close to the basket, then hope he missed the free throws. And there’s no way to stop Curry except to make him shoot from 30’ out, and hope he misses. (Both are roughly 40% bets:)

And yet, here we are discussing whether Shaq is an all-time great, just as we will inevitably discuss, 20 years from now, whether Curry was an all-time great.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This conversation has made me realize that Curry is basically a modern day Shaq. There was no way to stop Shaq except to give him a bear hug when he had the ball close to the basket, then hope he missed the free throws. And there’s no way to stop Curry except to make him shoot from 30’ out, and hope he misses. (Both are roughly 40% bets:)</p>
<p>And yet, here we are discussing whether Shaq is an all-time great, just as we will inevitably discuss, 20 years from now, whether Curry was an all-time great.</p>
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		By: Z-man		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2018 03:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grY7aB0m_1k]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grY7aB0m_1k" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grY7aB0m_1k</a></p>
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		By: Owen		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2018 02:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Young Shaq was a ridiculous beast. It is always helpful to have someone like that on your team, even with the free throw difficulties. 

 Shaq and Harden v GS is a fun one. I would put my.money on the former.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Young Shaq was a ridiculous beast. It is always helpful to have someone like that on your team, even with the free throw difficulties. </p>
<p> Shaq and Harden v GS is a fun one. I would put my.money on the former.</p>
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		By: Z-man		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2018 02:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Heh, the same guy that dubbed Zion a future NBA superstar before he registered for his phantom classes at Duke suggests that Shaq might have been less of a big deal today. Edibles, anyone?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, the same guy that dubbed Zion a future NBA superstar before he registered for his phantom classes at Duke suggests that Shaq might have been less of a big deal today. Edibles, anyone?</p>
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		By: The Glass Half Rebuilt		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2018 01:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You know who defenses aren’t equipped to deal with? A 6’6” 280 combo forward who rebounds like a center and runs the floor/finishes at the rim like Russell Westbrook. We should draft that guy next year.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know who defenses aren’t equipped to deal with? A 6’6” 280 combo forward who rebounds like a center and runs the floor/finishes at the rim like Russell Westbrook. We should draft that guy next year.</p>
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		By: Stratomatic "Porzingis, Ntilikina, Knox &#38; Robinson are going to lead us to the promised land		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stratomatic "Porzingis, Ntilikina, Knox &#38; Robinson are going to lead us to the promised land]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2018 00:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;If you could trade Capela for a similar level wing player then just insert Shaq Im sure the Rockets are enough to beat the Warriors. Just Capela for Shaq does it already, they would miss the defense but Shaq would dominate massively on offense and reshape the offense into an inside outside unstoppable machine, where there’s a massively efficient shot every time being taken.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

+1

Stats do a good job of capturing how productive a player was given his skillset, role, the system he played in, his teammates, matchups etc....  

Obviously, they are telling us a HUGE part of how good a player is (was).  But they do not capture how productive a player would be in a different role (expanded or contracted), with different teammates, in a different system, and against different defenders.  Stats tend not to change much from year to year, but that&#039;s because roles and defenses don&#039;t change much.   

I love Capela as much as the next guy, but he&#039;s not a dominant enough offensive player to screw up Golden State&#039;s lineups.  In fact, Golden State probably makes Houston think twice because some of the lineups they can throw at Capela are a problem. 

Capela is guarding inside but GS is often killing them from the outside.  If they put someone smaller on Capela, he can&#039;t make them pay for going small by killing them back inside.  He can score effectively and efficiently, but not kill them the way Shaq would.  That&#039;s the tradeoff math I am talking about.  I&#039;m not smart enough to calculate who is going to win these kinds of strategic match ups, but that&#039;s what&#039;s going on.  The teams are trying to &quot;out chess&quot; each other and adjust if they are losing with a certain lineup.  

Shaq is obvious though.  He&#039;d score 40 a night now if given the ball and teams didn&#039;t adjust.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If you could trade Capela for a similar level wing player then just insert Shaq Im sure the Rockets are enough to beat the Warriors. Just Capela for Shaq does it already, they would miss the defense but Shaq would dominate massively on offense and reshape the offense into an inside outside unstoppable machine, where there’s a massively efficient shot every time being taken.</p></blockquote>
<p>+1</p>
<p>Stats do a good job of capturing how productive a player was given his skillset, role, the system he played in, his teammates, matchups etc&#8230;.  </p>
<p>Obviously, they are telling us a HUGE part of how good a player is (was).  But they do not capture how productive a player would be in a different role (expanded or contracted), with different teammates, in a different system, and against different defenders.  Stats tend not to change much from year to year, but that&#8217;s because roles and defenses don&#8217;t change much.   </p>
<p>I love Capela as much as the next guy, but he&#8217;s not a dominant enough offensive player to screw up Golden State&#8217;s lineups.  In fact, Golden State probably makes Houston think twice because some of the lineups they can throw at Capela are a problem. </p>
<p>Capela is guarding inside but GS is often killing them from the outside.  If they put someone smaller on Capela, he can&#8217;t make them pay for going small by killing them back inside.  He can score effectively and efficiently, but not kill them the way Shaq would.  That&#8217;s the tradeoff math I am talking about.  I&#8217;m not smart enough to calculate who is going to win these kinds of strategic match ups, but that&#8217;s what&#8217;s going on.  The teams are trying to &#8220;out chess&#8221; each other and adjust if they are losing with a certain lineup.  </p>
<p>Shaq is obvious though.  He&#8217;d score 40 a night now if given the ball and teams didn&#8217;t adjust.</p>
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		By: Stratomatic "Porzingis, Ntilikina, Knox &#38; Robinson are going to lead us to the promised land		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2018 23:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;The league TS% was .520 in 2002 and is .565 now. That’s a huge gap, and if Shaq came back with the same stats, he’d be significantly less valuable than he was. Still would be a great player, but he wouldn’t outpace his peers nearly as well.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If Shaq came back now imo he&#039;d have a much easier time of it on offense.   Back then teams were primarily built to defend big strong Cs.  Now they are built to defend quicker more nimble Cs.  They want their C to defend the P&#038;R and even go out on the perimeter if the opposing C has range (which a growing number do). If they have a big strong C that can defend other big strong Cs, he&#039;s probably riding the bench for the occasional match up when they need him.  

Shaq dominated other big strong Cs even when double teamed. Against some of the small ball Cs out there now it would be comical.  Sure, he&#039;d struggle a little more on defense, but the math would change. His edge inside would be so monstrous, the fact that he was getting burned outside a little would hardly matter.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The league TS% was .520 in 2002 and is .565 now. That’s a huge gap, and if Shaq came back with the same stats, he’d be significantly less valuable than he was. Still would be a great player, but he wouldn’t outpace his peers nearly as well.</p></blockquote>
<p>If Shaq came back now imo he&#8217;d have a much easier time of it on offense.   Back then teams were primarily built to defend big strong Cs.  Now they are built to defend quicker more nimble Cs.  They want their C to defend the P&amp;R and even go out on the perimeter if the opposing C has range (which a growing number do). If they have a big strong C that can defend other big strong Cs, he&#8217;s probably riding the bench for the occasional match up when they need him.  </p>
<p>Shaq dominated other big strong Cs even when double teamed. Against some of the small ball Cs out there now it would be comical.  Sure, he&#8217;d struggle a little more on defense, but the math would change. His edge inside would be so monstrous, the fact that he was getting burned outside a little would hardly matter.</p>
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		By: Totes McGoats as Totes McGoats		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2018 23:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My gosh..can you imagine a Center like Dream in today&#039;s NBA? Don&#039;t get me wrong, any of the Centers listed in #1 would punish defenses. But Dream is the only one with the requisite foot speed and lateral movement to damn near negate small ball. I think that if AD stays healthy as a full time Center this season, he may be that guy. He doesn&#039;t have the post game Dream had, but he has enough of one to slaughter in the paint- especially when his shooters are giving him room in the paint. I kinda expect Boogie to be that way once he&#039;s healthy, but just not on defense.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My gosh..can you imagine a Center like Dream in today&#8217;s NBA? Don&#8217;t get me wrong, any of the Centers listed in #1 would punish defenses. But Dream is the only one with the requisite foot speed and lateral movement to damn near negate small ball. I think that if AD stays healthy as a full time Center this season, he may be that guy. He doesn&#8217;t have the post game Dream had, but he has enough of one to slaughter in the paint- especially when his shooters are giving him room in the paint. I kinda expect Boogie to be that way once he&#8217;s healthy, but just not on defense.</p>
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		By: rama, king of superfluous poppycock		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2018 22:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think the larger point is great players reshape the game to suit their talents, and Shaq would be no exception. Bill Russell&#039;s stats don&#039;t tell you he&#039;d be great in today&#039;s league, but does anyone really think players like that wouldn&#039;t figure it out and find a way to dominate? Their numbers would change accordingly. I&#039;d take him as a foundational piece over Steph in a heartbeat, in any era, even if it doesn&#039;t look like he fits today&#039;s game.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the larger point is great players reshape the game to suit their talents, and Shaq would be no exception. Bill Russell&#8217;s stats don&#8217;t tell you he&#8217;d be great in today&#8217;s league, but does anyone really think players like that wouldn&#8217;t figure it out and find a way to dominate? Their numbers would change accordingly. I&#8217;d take him as a foundational piece over Steph in a heartbeat, in any era, even if it doesn&#8217;t look like he fits today&#8217;s game.</p>
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