Comments on: Knicks Morning News (2018.08.14)

By: Z-man

Z-man — Wed, 15 Aug 2018 11:08:13 +0000

@67 of course! I’d feel dirty bc I always favor a homegrown guy, but thats a no-brainer.

By: Grocer

Grocer — Wed, 15 Aug 2018 06:46:02 +0000

The Davis and Embiid contracts are instructive though. Max money if you hit certain production targets (he lost out on some big money from not making first team NBA if I recall correctly), and injury protections for the Sixers if he isn’t available to play enough his guaranteed money shrinks. If Perry is very good at his job KP’s next deal will have elements of those.

By: Cock Jowles, #1 Purveyor of Wanton Chuckery

Cock Jowles, #1 Purveyor of Wanton Chuckery — Wed, 15 Aug 2018 06:00:12 +0000

If KP had qualified for the leaderboards, he would have been 12th in PPG.

Here are the players above him:

Harden
Davis
LeBron
Lillard
Antetokoumpo
Durant
Westbrook
Irving
Aldridge
Oladipo
DeRozan

He’s getting a max.

Side question: Z-man, would you trade KP for Giannis straight up, right now?

By: Knick fan not in NJ at this time

Knick fan not in NJ at this time — Wed, 15 Aug 2018 05:56:16 +0000

I think he will get close to the max, but maybe he will get a small discount for signing a longer contract or something like that. I think if he was a restricted free agent, some team would offer him the max, because they would know they have to do their best to overpay to get a player that way. That wouldn’t be good for the Knicks.

By: Z-man

Z-man — Wed, 15 Aug 2018 04:46:43 +0000

There is virtually no chance that KP agrees to anything less than the max, or that the Knicks don’t pay him.

By: Grocer

Grocer — Wed, 15 Aug 2018 04:32:02 +0000

It’d be nice if we could give him a contract that was full of injury contingencies, though I don’t know if that’s very likely. It’d also be nice if it were for a moderate amount guaranteed with increases based on performance like Davis had. We might get that if his recovery goes slowly. Injury guarantees are the more likely scenario of the two, but I have no sense of how likely. Probably not very. KP is far more popular with the fan base than management is, GianaDani’s right about that much. They’ll probably give him too much money because they don’t think they’ve got any leverage.

By: Z-man

Z-man — Wed, 15 Aug 2018 03:44:57 +0000

…and Isiah will return as gm and his first move will be to hire Rambis as coach, only to fire him midseason to replace him with Mark Jackson.

By: Bruno Almeida

Bruno Almeida — Wed, 15 Aug 2018 03:25:44 +0000

Don’t add another one to the list Owen, please, I’m just starting to believe the inevitable destiny of the Knicks signing Rudy Gay is miraculously not happening. There’s still Tyreke Evans and Andrew Wiggins left on the list.

I think KP would be insane to take the qualifying offer, there will certainly be a team offering a very good deal to him if we don’t. Even if he’s 100% confident in his health and the Knicks somehow don’t offer him the max, it’s not happening.

At this point I would be comfortable getting him back at something like 4 years between 80-100 million, but let’s hope he does improve and is able to stay healthy. The best case scenario would obviously be a Curry situation, where he somehow accepts a below market deal and then improves, but that’s not realistic at all to expect.

By: Z-man

Z-man — Wed, 15 Aug 2018 02:51:28 +0000

Devin Booker would have driven me from the lists permanently.

Although he will be a Knick someday, I have no doubt on that score.

Alas, there was a time when a 21yo who shot at a >561 TS% on a 31% usage and averaged 5 rebs, 5assts and a steal per 36 would be viewed positively.

By: rama, king of superfluous poppycock

rama, king of superfluous poppycock — Wed, 15 Aug 2018 01:55:43 +0000

But Scott Perry and David Fizdale are not Isaiah Thomas, Scott Layden, Glen Grunwald, Larry Brown, Donnie Walsh, Jeff Hornacek, or Phil Jackson. So we can’t say that the draft process will be anything like it was in the past

Fair enough.