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		By: ess-dog		</title>
		<link>https://knickerblogger.net/2018/07/knicks-morning-news-2018-07-17/#comment-627279</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2018 15:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I mean, healthy Kawhi is great, but busted, 1-year rental Kawhi.... that&#039;s about a fair market price. Derozan is way better than any guard we have and Poetl is pretty good actually.

Spurs didn&#039;t want to rebuild with ultra young guys is my guess. If Murray improves, they have a team with 5 above average starters in a league that demands you to have a superstar (or 2). 

It will be fascinating to watch how they fare. I can&#039;t imagine better than a 7 or 8 seed, but don&#039;t underestimate Pop.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mean, healthy Kawhi is great, but busted, 1-year rental Kawhi&#8230;. that&#8217;s about a fair market price. Derozan is way better than any guard we have and Poetl is pretty good actually.</p>
<p>Spurs didn&#8217;t want to rebuild with ultra young guys is my guess. If Murray improves, they have a team with 5 above average starters in a league that demands you to have a superstar (or 2). </p>
<p>It will be fascinating to watch how they fare. I can&#8217;t imagine better than a 7 or 8 seed, but don&#8217;t underestimate Pop.</p>
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		By: Knick fan not in NJ at this time		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2018 11:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Brian, remember that Paul George was traded under similar circumstances and the Pacers got two players back and no first round picks.  And I believe he was younger at the time than Butler is now. We can debate what might be a good deal for us, but don’t assume we have to give up a pick]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian, remember that Paul George was traded under similar circumstances and the Pacers got two players back and no first round picks.  And I believe he was younger at the time than Butler is now. We can debate what might be a good deal for us, but don’t assume we have to give up a pick</p>
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		By: Brian Cronin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian Cronin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2018 07:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://knickerblogger.net/2018/07/knicks-morning-news-2018-07-17/#comment-627219&quot;&gt;Donnie Walsh&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;blockquote&gt;But would those teams take Dieng? That’s a regrettable contract they gave him. Dumping that while picking up Ntilikina and a 1st rounder might be attractive, no?

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;d hate to think that a team would ever take less in a trade of a star player, when they&#039;re still trying to be competitive, just to dump a bad salary, but sadly I could possibly see Thibs being dumb enough to like that idea. I just don&#039;t think he&#039;d like the idea enough to not still insist on an unprotected first round pick in the deal. I think even the most optimistic of possible trades would have to include an unprotected 2019 first rounder. And I still wouldn&#039;t want them to do that. Better to just hope Butler wants to sign her next year.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://knickerblogger.net/2018/07/knicks-morning-news-2018-07-17/#comment-627219">Donnie Walsh</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>But would those teams take Dieng? That’s a regrettable contract they gave him. Dumping that while picking up Ntilikina and a 1st rounder might be attractive, no?</p>
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<p>I&#8217;d hate to think that a team would ever take less in a trade of a star player, when they&#8217;re still trying to be competitive, just to dump a bad salary, but sadly I could possibly see Thibs being dumb enough to like that idea. I just don&#8217;t think he&#8217;d like the idea enough to not still insist on an unprotected first round pick in the deal. I think even the most optimistic of possible trades would have to include an unprotected 2019 first rounder. And I still wouldn&#8217;t want them to do that. Better to just hope Butler wants to sign her next year.</p>
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		By: Knick fan not in NJ at this time		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Knick fan not in NJ at this time]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2018 07:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I can’t believe I’m actually writing this, because the whole idea is so crazy; but Butler and Dieng for Noah and Hardaway and Burke actually works in the trade machine.   Thibs probably thinks Noah is useful (and he is probably more useful than Dieng) and he gets youth in return for Butler.  I’d rather give up Burke than a first round pick, although their value is roughly equivalent.  It seems a fair deal to me, but will never happen.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can’t believe I’m actually writing this, because the whole idea is so crazy; but Butler and Dieng for Noah and Hardaway and Burke actually works in the trade machine.   Thibs probably thinks Noah is useful (and he is probably more useful than Dieng) and he gets youth in return for Butler.  I’d rather give up Burke than a first round pick, although their value is roughly equivalent.  It seems a fair deal to me, but will never happen.</p>
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		By: Donnie Walsh		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2018 06:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt; Other good teams can and will make respectable offers if Butler is seriously available. Heck, what about the Lakers? Butler would cost a lot less than Kawhi. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

But would those teams take Dieng? That’s a regrettable contract they gave him. Dumping that while picking up Ntilikina and a 1st rounder might be attractive, no?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> Other good teams can and will make respectable offers if Butler is seriously available. Heck, what about the Lakers? Butler would cost a lot less than Kawhi. </p></blockquote>
<p>But would those teams take Dieng? That’s a regrettable contract they gave him. Dumping that while picking up Ntilikina and a 1st rounder might be attractive, no?</p>
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		By: Donnie Walsh		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2018 06:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt; Anthony Davis will be available in a year. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

I’m sure there’s a good reason for being so certain about this, like you’re his Live Psychic Friend or something, but predicting player movement in the NBA one whole year out is like predicting where and when earthquakes are going to happen. 

Davis is signed until 2021. 

And if he’s made available in the summer of 2019 for some reason, like you said, Boston, and other teams, are so rich in assets that they can beat the Knicks if they want to, so building a strategy completely around acquiring him is more bunk than just clearing space for actual free agents.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> Anthony Davis will be available in a year. </p></blockquote>
<p>I’m sure there’s a good reason for being so certain about this, like you’re his Live Psychic Friend or something, but predicting player movement in the NBA one whole year out is like predicting where and when earthquakes are going to happen. </p>
<p>Davis is signed until 2021. </p>
<p>And if he’s made available in the summer of 2019 for some reason, like you said, Boston, and other teams, are so rich in assets that they can beat the Knicks if they want to, so building a strategy completely around acquiring him is more bunk than just clearing space for actual free agents.</p>
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		By: The Glass Half Rebuilt		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2018 06:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There is no realistic trade for Jimmy Butler that makes sense for us when you consider that Anthony Davis will be available in a year. Why flush those assets down the drain for 30 year old Jimmy Buckets when you can hold them for 26 year old Anthony Davis? The plan should be to sign Kyrie, get a healthy KP back, and then make a godfather offer for Anthony Davis.

I guess I can see a situation where Jimmy Butler keeps us alive in the playoff chase until KP gets back and then they carry us to the 8th seed, but that just isnt worth as much as adding a top pick and/or trading that top pick for Anthony Davis.

Anthony fucking Davis is going to be traded next summer and we need to be in that lottery. We cannot let Danny Ainge get his filthy hands on him.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no realistic trade for Jimmy Butler that makes sense for us when you consider that Anthony Davis will be available in a year. Why flush those assets down the drain for 30 year old Jimmy Buckets when you can hold them for 26 year old Anthony Davis? The plan should be to sign Kyrie, get a healthy KP back, and then make a godfather offer for Anthony Davis.</p>
<p>I guess I can see a situation where Jimmy Butler keeps us alive in the playoff chase until KP gets back and then they carry us to the 8th seed, but that just isnt worth as much as adding a top pick and/or trading that top pick for Anthony Davis.</p>
<p>Anthony fucking Davis is going to be traded next summer and we need to be in that lottery. We cannot let Danny Ainge get his filthy hands on him.</p>
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		By: Brian Cronin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2018 05:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://knickerblogger.net/2018/07/knicks-morning-news-2018-07-17/#comment-627215&quot;&gt;Donnie Walsh&lt;/a&gt;.

There is no way that the Wolves are ever taking a protected pick back in a Butler trade. Same with a pick swap (as the sole pick, that is. I could see them asking for a pick swap on &lt;i&gt;top&lt;/i&gt; of an unprotected first rounder, but not &lt;i&gt;instead&lt;/i&gt; of an unprotected first rounder). Hell, you&#039;d be &lt;i&gt;really&lt;/i&gt; hard pressed to get them to even accept an unprotected first from 2020 instead of 2019. 

Other good teams can and will make respectable offers if Butler is seriously available. Heck, what about the Lakers? Butler would cost a lot less than Kawhi. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://knickerblogger.net/2018/07/knicks-morning-news-2018-07-17/#comment-627215">Donnie Walsh</a>.</p>
<p>There is no way that the Wolves are ever taking a protected pick back in a Butler trade. Same with a pick swap (as the sole pick, that is. I could see them asking for a pick swap on <i>top</i> of an unprotected first rounder, but not <i>instead</i> of an unprotected first rounder). Hell, you&#8217;d be <i>really</i> hard pressed to get them to even accept an unprotected first from 2020 instead of 2019. </p>
<p>Other good teams can and will make respectable offers if Butler is seriously available. Heck, what about the Lakers? Butler would cost a lot less than Kawhi. </p>
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		By: Donnie Walsh		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2018 05:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Is Noah + Lee + Ntilikina + top-10 protected pick in 2020 for Butler + Dieng a bad trade for New York? Is it a bad trade for Minnesota? 

As a card-carrying pessimist and hater of everything the Knicks have done for the better part of my lifetime now, I’d be pretty happy. Butler would be the best player to play for the Knicks since Ewing, and would be the best player they’ve acquired via trade or free agency since Earl Monroe forty seven(!) years ago.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Noah + Lee + Ntilikina + top-10 protected pick in 2020 for Butler + Dieng a bad trade for New York? Is it a bad trade for Minnesota? </p>
<p>As a card-carrying pessimist and hater of everything the Knicks have done for the better part of my lifetime now, I’d be pretty happy. Butler would be the best player to play for the Knicks since Ewing, and would be the best player they’ve acquired via trade or free agency since Earl Monroe forty seven(!) years ago.</p>
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		By: Brian Cronin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2018 05:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://knickerblogger.net/2018/07/knicks-morning-news-2018-07-17/#comment-627213&quot;&gt;GoNyGoNyGo&lt;/a&gt;.

What sucks is that the one time he definitely &lt;em&gt;would&lt;/em&gt; have allowed it, Phil, well, you know.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://knickerblogger.net/2018/07/knicks-morning-news-2018-07-17/#comment-627213">GoNyGoNyGo</a>.</p>
<p>What sucks is that the one time he definitely <em>would</em> have allowed it, Phil, well, you know.</p>
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