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		By: Knick fan not in NJ at this time		</title>
		<link>https://knickerblogger.net/2018/06/knicks-morning-news-2018-06-20/#comment-622882</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Knick fan not in NJ at this time]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2018 11:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Z-man, you could be right. My desires are based on limited information.   The only thing I would argue is that while it&#039;s true Doncic might not became a superstar, he&#039;s so good, so young, that, barring injury, he will be a decent player even if not great.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Z-man, you could be right. My desires are based on limited information.   The only thing I would argue is that while it&#8217;s true Doncic might not became a superstar, he&#8217;s so good, so young, that, barring injury, he will be a decent player even if not great.</p>
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		By: Z-man		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2018 10:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bamba is the only guy who is virtually GUARANTEED to maintain his trade value based on who he is right now. Doncic may turn out to be a huge liability on defense and his athleticism overall might not translate to stardom. Ayton will be gone for sure, so he&#039;s not even worth discussing, but if he&#039;s not as good on O as advertised, he is never going to be a DPOY candidate. JJJ has a fugly offensive game right now and is all upside. Bagley migt be the safest bet to be a stud two-way player, but not sure if his perimeter game on either end is real. 

At worst, Bamba projects to be Dikembe Motombo with a bit more offense, and that&#039;s an unbelievably high floor. He has multiple DPOYs written all over him. He will be worth multiple #1 picks in the trade market for a long, long time. If he and KP seem redundant, you could trade either one and get a stud at a different position or a couple of lottery picks. So while I&#039;d be thrilled if we trade up and snag Doncic, or wound up with Bagley (I really, really don&#039;t like JJJ!) I would definitely be a bit more nervous about him being the real deal than if we pick Bamba.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bamba is the only guy who is virtually GUARANTEED to maintain his trade value based on who he is right now. Doncic may turn out to be a huge liability on defense and his athleticism overall might not translate to stardom. Ayton will be gone for sure, so he&#8217;s not even worth discussing, but if he&#8217;s not as good on O as advertised, he is never going to be a DPOY candidate. JJJ has a fugly offensive game right now and is all upside. Bagley migt be the safest bet to be a stud two-way player, but not sure if his perimeter game on either end is real. </p>
<p>At worst, Bamba projects to be Dikembe Motombo with a bit more offense, and that&#8217;s an unbelievably high floor. He has multiple DPOYs written all over him. He will be worth multiple #1 picks in the trade market for a long, long time. If he and KP seem redundant, you could trade either one and get a stud at a different position or a couple of lottery picks. So while I&#8217;d be thrilled if we trade up and snag Doncic, or wound up with Bagley (I really, really don&#8217;t like JJJ!) I would definitely be a bit more nervous about him being the real deal than if we pick Bamba.</p>
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		By: Knick fan not in NJ at this time		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Knick fan not in NJ at this time]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2018 08:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If Atlanta takes Doncic, then presumably we can get JJJ (assuming Ayton and Bagley are one and two).  From what I&#039;ve heard about him, that could be worth it.  No one else has impressed me as much.  But if Memphis is asking Fournier and number 6, but not getting it, that gives an idea how much they value their pick and then we have stuff to offer that could be competitive with what they might get from Orlando.  I think teams are really reluctant to take on Parsons&#039; contract, so Memphis may not get what they want.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Atlanta takes Doncic, then presumably we can get JJJ (assuming Ayton and Bagley are one and two).  From what I&#8217;ve heard about him, that could be worth it.  No one else has impressed me as much.  But if Memphis is asking Fournier and number 6, but not getting it, that gives an idea how much they value their pick and then we have stuff to offer that could be competitive with what they might get from Orlando.  I think teams are really reluctant to take on Parsons&#8217; contract, so Memphis may not get what they want.</p>
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		By: Brian Cronin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2018 07:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://knickerblogger.net/2018/06/knicks-morning-news-2018-06-20/#comment-622873&quot;&gt;english_knick&lt;/a&gt;.

I just don&#039;t know why Atlanta would pass on Doncic to make this even a viable thing, ya know?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://knickerblogger.net/2018/06/knicks-morning-news-2018-06-20/#comment-622873">english_knick</a>.</p>
<p>I just don&#8217;t know why Atlanta would pass on Doncic to make this even a viable thing, ya know?</p>
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		By: english_knick		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2018 07:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[ESPN is talking about the various teams interested in 4. This would make me think we had no chance. But the example discussion the my have is Orlando - memphis asking for 6 and Fournier and Orlando wanting to include biyombo instead. 

Fournier is better than Timmy, but not by miles and his contract is equally bad. And I’d argue a package of Courtney, Thomas and Burke is MUCH better for Memphis than Fournier. More salary flex, at least two very usable pieces... maybe this actually is doable?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ESPN is talking about the various teams interested in 4. This would make me think we had no chance. But the example discussion the my have is Orlando &#8211; memphis asking for 6 and Fournier and Orlando wanting to include biyombo instead. </p>
<p>Fournier is better than Timmy, but not by miles and his contract is equally bad. And I’d argue a package of Courtney, Thomas and Burke is MUCH better for Memphis than Fournier. More salary flex, at least two very usable pieces&#8230; maybe this actually is doable?</p>
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		By: Knick fan not in NJ at this time		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Knick fan not in NJ at this time]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2018 05:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I almost never watch college basketball, but from what I have read and heard about the prospects, I think it&#039;s worth trading up for Doncic or JJJ.   Either one sounds like a really good player with a high floor and the possibility of more.   Bamba I honestly don&#039;t think so.  The risk is that he turns out to be a defensive specialist who is limited offense.  I don&#039;t think it&#039;s worth giving up Hardaway and number 9 for him.  Number 9 is likely to be a good player too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I almost never watch college basketball, but from what I have read and heard about the prospects, I think it&#8217;s worth trading up for Doncic or JJJ.   Either one sounds like a really good player with a high floor and the possibility of more.   Bamba I honestly don&#8217;t think so.  The risk is that he turns out to be a defensive specialist who is limited offense.  I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s worth giving up Hardaway and number 9 for him.  Number 9 is likely to be a good player too.</p>
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		By: nicos		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2018 05:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know- the thought of having two mobile rim protectors on the floor at the same time without sacrificing offensive spacing sounds really tempting. Capella might have been able to stay on the floor if when he got beat on the perimeter there was a guy like Bamba or JJJ capable of rotating over and closing off the lane rather than PJ Tucker or Trevor Ariza. 

Is Bamba really going to shoot the three well enough to keep the spacing on offense intact? Is JJJ&#039;s release so slow that guys will be able to cheat off of him without getting burned? I don&#039;t know but if the cost is THJ (or Lee/Lance) plus the 36th pick I&#039;d take the risk.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know- the thought of having two mobile rim protectors on the floor at the same time without sacrificing offensive spacing sounds really tempting. Capella might have been able to stay on the floor if when he got beat on the perimeter there was a guy like Bamba or JJJ capable of rotating over and closing off the lane rather than PJ Tucker or Trevor Ariza. </p>
<p>Is Bamba really going to shoot the three well enough to keep the spacing on offense intact? Is JJJ&#8217;s release so slow that guys will be able to cheat off of him without getting burned? I don&#8217;t know but if the cost is THJ (or Lee/Lance) plus the 36th pick I&#8217;d take the risk.</p>
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		By: Brian Cronin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2018 05:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://knickerblogger.net/2018/06/knicks-morning-news-2018-06-20/#comment-622865&quot;&gt;Grocer&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;blockquote&gt;The other argument would be that nobody was offering anything worthwhile. He’s a good player but it’s not like his position is tremendously valued around the league.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

But what&#039;s worthwhile for a guy who was going to be a free agent this year no matter what? It&#039;s not like having his Bird Rights should help the Knicks any. So even if it was just  a shitty second rounder, that&#039;s one more shitty second rounder than they would have that they didn&#039;t have before.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://knickerblogger.net/2018/06/knicks-morning-news-2018-06-20/#comment-622865">Grocer</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>The other argument would be that nobody was offering anything worthwhile. He’s a good player but it’s not like his position is tremendously valued around the league.</p>
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<p>But what&#8217;s worthwhile for a guy who was going to be a free agent this year no matter what? It&#8217;s not like having his Bird Rights should help the Knicks any. So even if it was just  a shitty second rounder, that&#8217;s one more shitty second rounder than they would have that they didn&#8217;t have before.</p>
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		By: rama, king of superfluous poppycock		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2018 05:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[JK, I agree with you, but I&#039;d note that 

1) chasing 4s has lowered KP&#039;s rebound rates a bit, and if he&#039;s playing the 5 (and bulks up, as it seems he has been doing), he could be adequate there.  Much more certain is that 

2) he becomes an efficient scorer; he has shown that he can be, in spurts, and that he understands what efficient scoring is all about, based on the adjustments he said he was making and then did make during the season. As well, he is an above-average 3-point-shooter, and with a modern offense and a GM who doesn&#039;t ask how it&#039;s goink, that will significantly improve his efficiency.  

His rim protection is already elite...but I doubt he&#039;ll ever be able to set a good screen.  The muscle should help him rebound, but he&#039;s just too tall and skinny to be a great screener.  That didn&#039;t keep Kareem from being an all-time great, though, right?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JK, I agree with you, but I&#8217;d note that </p>
<p>1) chasing 4s has lowered KP&#8217;s rebound rates a bit, and if he&#8217;s playing the 5 (and bulks up, as it seems he has been doing), he could be adequate there.  Much more certain is that </p>
<p>2) he becomes an efficient scorer; he has shown that he can be, in spurts, and that he understands what efficient scoring is all about, based on the adjustments he said he was making and then did make during the season. As well, he is an above-average 3-point-shooter, and with a modern offense and a GM who doesn&#8217;t ask how it&#8217;s goink, that will significantly improve his efficiency.  </p>
<p>His rim protection is already elite&#8230;but I doubt he&#8217;ll ever be able to set a good screen.  The muscle should help him rebound, but he&#8217;s just too tall and skinny to be a great screener.  That didn&#8217;t keep Kareem from being an all-time great, though, right?</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2018 04:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think of it this way. I want my center to be able to do four things:
1. Score efficiently, get easy baskets
2. Rebound
3. Protect the rim
4. Set screens

Porzingis does one of the four. He doesn&#039;t really do some of the key things you need your center to do, which is why I believe in the long run for him to be a truly useful player he&#039;ll need a &quot;caddy&quot; to take care of some of that stuff for him.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think of it this way. I want my center to be able to do four things:<br />
1. Score efficiently, get easy baskets<br />
2. Rebound<br />
3. Protect the rim<br />
4. Set screens</p>
<p>Porzingis does one of the four. He doesn&#8217;t really do some of the key things you need your center to do, which is why I believe in the long run for him to be a truly useful player he&#8217;ll need a &#8220;caddy&#8221; to take care of some of that stuff for him.</p>
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