I can’t believe you won’t understand it’s a matter of talent, not just organizing pieces. Nobody, not Popovich or Brad Stevens or playing 6 years together would make this roster a contender ever.

You call everyone part of a herd mentality yet you’ve been preaching the same bs that Perry and Mills have been saying, we just need to gel, we need to develop these guys, we need veterans to teach the young guys to win. That’s nice and pretty to say, but the NBA is about talent and the Knicks are at the very least in the bottom 10 in that category in the league. It reflects perfectly our current position and it will still be the way it goes unless this team magically adds talent somehow.

What I’m saying is I’d rather the knicks try to win with a young team they can build around, along with some vets, rather than throw in the towel for next season, suffering every win, end up losing 55 games for Mikal Bridges.

It wouldn’t be for Mikal Bridges. Mikal Bridges is what the Knicks get because they followed your ill-inspired plan this year (just like they do every year), choosing only to start tanking once Porzingis was hurt and every other smarter team (small bar to hurdle, to be fair), had been tanking for months, so that they get to draft the real game-changers while the Knicks have to be lucky to get “just” a good player like Mikal Bridges.

You’re tired of watching them lose and yet you recommend that they do the very thing that we have all seen them do repeatedly and see it fail constantly! And yet you want them to keep doing it, the thing that constantly leads to losing, because…you’re tired of losing? How do you not get how ill-conceived that sounds?

You want a model for how to build a team? Look at Philadelphia. That’s the model of how to build a competitive and long-term successful NBA team in today’s market

For starters, Philly hasn’t done anything yet but become a 4 – 5 seed with no playoff wins.

And Philly was a disgusting mess that had a lot of good things go bad, then worse, and eventually reaped the benefit from it all.
No other team ever did that, and probably never will.

Personally, I’ve seen enough losing to last a few lifetimes. If the knicks had the worst record in the NBA for the next few years, it might be enough for me to stop following this team (I can only hope).

There are a lot of competitive teams that have built through a combination of drafts, good trades and FA signings while not being in the cellar. Even if you’re a mid-level playoff team, as a fan you have hope, and a reason for watching.
Tired of losing.

hippos herd because they know there is strength in numbers. clownist haters heard mudiay keeps his head up so spread out in search of win # 29 and the deep honor of white knuckling Courtney Lee right into the abyss. damn hippos with their heads down.

holy fuuuuuuuuuuuuck

But that’s a sweet goal

but when you get a chance, check out Ronaldo’s incredible bicycle kick goal against Juventus today. Just an extraordinarily athletic feat by maybe the greatest soccer player ever.

Fat Ronaldo was better

In this day and age tanking is almost 100% necessary to be a contender unless you’re Danny Ainge (who, mind you, tore a championship winning team down and rebuilt a fringe contender in the span of a few years–and he would’ve been in a similar position even if Billy King hadn’t sold the farm) or have a chance at getting Lebron. It’s not the early 2000s anymore, the league is more top-heavy then ever. If you’re a (competitive) 4-5 seed, then you might realistically be one or two FA signings or canny trades away. We are light years from being a competitive 4-5 seed, and the only possiblity of us achieving that is either KP turns into a mega-superstar or we get hit on a few draft picks in the 3-9 range or get very lucky in the 2nd round.

It’s a herd mentality on KB because most of us understand in a rough-and-ready sense basic math and the idea of expected utility, besides the vocal minority who probably cheered on every obviously bad trade the Knicks made for the last 20 years.

You want a model for how to build a team? Look at Philadelphia. That’s the model of how to build a competitive and long-term successful NBA team in today’s market

hippos herd because they know there is strength in numbers. clownist haters heard mudiay keeps his head up so spread out in search of win # 29 and the deep honor of white knuckling Courtney Lee right into the abyss. damn hippos with their heads down.