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	Comments on: ESPN.com: Sources: Knicks dismiss Jeff Hornacek; candidates include David Fizdale, David Blatt, Mark Jackson	</title>
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		By: #firedRambis		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2018 04:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[hope Kanter opts out. rather have Noah on the bench than stretch provision.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hope Kanter opts out. rather have Noah on the bench than stretch provision.</p>
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		By: Stratomatic "Porzingis, Ntilikina, and Bridges will take us to the promised land"		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stratomatic "Porzingis, Ntilikina, and Bridges will take us to the promised land"]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2018 13:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Knicks problem has been short term thinking and doing a terrible job of finding and attracting value (other than in the draft recently under Phil and Gaines).  That&#039;s why we&#039;ve sucked for so long.  

However, I also think managing a team in the real world is not the same as in the theoretical world. 

In the real world basketball is still a business with ticket sales, merchandise sales, TV ratings, jobs,  shareholders, agents, players, etc...  So there is some kind of balance that must be struck between optimizing the team rebuild, running the business, and dealing with human beings with personal interests.    

I also think tanking is not the one and only path to contention.   

I still think all of that. 

We are on a decent path now.  To some extent we&#039;ve already screwed it up by putting Hardaway and Baker into the Rose cap space, trading away Willy, and trading for Mudiay. That has probably more then offset some of the better things we&#039;ve recently done like adding Burke and grabbing that Bull&#039;s 2nd rounder.  

Personally, I don&#039;t care how we get to contention, but I think getting there is almost entirely about valuing assets correctly (whether they be draft picks, veterans, up and coming players, fliers, renting cap space  etc...) and then managing the team flexibility so you can keep making value enhancing moves.  I don&#039;t think it HAS TO be tank and draft.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Knicks problem has been short term thinking and doing a terrible job of finding and attracting value (other than in the draft recently under Phil and Gaines).  That&#8217;s why we&#8217;ve sucked for so long.  </p>
<p>However, I also think managing a team in the real world is not the same as in the theoretical world. </p>
<p>In the real world basketball is still a business with ticket sales, merchandise sales, TV ratings, jobs,  shareholders, agents, players, etc&#8230;  So there is some kind of balance that must be struck between optimizing the team rebuild, running the business, and dealing with human beings with personal interests.    </p>
<p>I also think tanking is not the one and only path to contention.   </p>
<p>I still think all of that. </p>
<p>We are on a decent path now.  To some extent we&#8217;ve already screwed it up by putting Hardaway and Baker into the Rose cap space, trading away Willy, and trading for Mudiay. That has probably more then offset some of the better things we&#8217;ve recently done like adding Burke and grabbing that Bull&#8217;s 2nd rounder.  </p>
<p>Personally, I don&#8217;t care how we get to contention, but I think getting there is almost entirely about valuing assets correctly (whether they be draft picks, veterans, up and coming players, fliers, renting cap space  etc&#8230;) and then managing the team flexibility so you can keep making value enhancing moves.  I don&#8217;t think it HAS TO be tank and draft.</p>
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		By: Z-man		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2018 11:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Can we offer the coaching job to Mickey Callaway?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can we offer the coaching job to Mickey Callaway?</p>
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		By: Brian Cronin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2018 10:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://knickerblogger.net/2018/04/espn-com-sources-knicks-dismiss-jeff-hornacek-candidates-include-david-fizdale-david-blatt-mark-jackson/#comment-617672&quot;&gt;The Glass Half Rebuilt&lt;/a&gt;.

I do actually like MKG, but not as the second overall pick in a draft.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://knickerblogger.net/2018/04/espn-com-sources-knicks-dismiss-jeff-hornacek-candidates-include-david-fizdale-david-blatt-mark-jackson/#comment-617672">The Glass Half Rebuilt</a>.</p>
<p>I do actually like MKG, but not as the second overall pick in a draft.</p>
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		By: The Glass Half Rebuilt		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2018 08:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If a good organization got their hands on Michael Kidd Gilchrist he’d have turned into a premier two way player despite that ugly jumper. Part of me still wishes we grab him in a salary dump.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If a good organization got their hands on Michael Kidd Gilchrist he’d have turned into a premier two way player despite that ugly jumper. Part of me still wishes we grab him in a salary dump.</p>
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		By: Brian Cronin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian Cronin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2018 07:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://knickerblogger.net/2018/04/espn-com-sources-knicks-dismiss-jeff-hornacek-candidates-include-david-fizdale-david-blatt-mark-jackson/#comment-617670&quot;&gt;dtrickey&lt;/a&gt;.

Man, that was such a shitty draft after Davis. Obviously, there was some talent available that Charlotte passed on (Beal, Dame and Drummond - and of course everyone missed out on Draymond Green), but it was still a very weak draft post-Brow. Sometimes being second is an okay place to be, but not that year.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://knickerblogger.net/2018/04/espn-com-sources-knicks-dismiss-jeff-hornacek-candidates-include-david-fizdale-david-blatt-mark-jackson/#comment-617670">dtrickey</a>.</p>
<p>Man, that was such a shitty draft after Davis. Obviously, there was some talent available that Charlotte passed on (Beal, Dame and Drummond &#8211; and of course everyone missed out on Draymond Green), but it was still a very weak draft post-Brow. Sometimes being second is an okay place to be, but not that year.</p>
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		By: dtrickey		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2018 06:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In fairness to Charlotte they got super unlucky missing on the number 1 pick despite having the worst record that year and missing out on Davis.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fairness to Charlotte they got super unlucky missing on the number 1 pick despite having the worst record that year and missing out on Davis.</p>
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		By: Grocer		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2018 06:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kemba Walker is where you hope your FO is savvy enough to open up another path to the top.  Hope, it&#039;s what we live on.  Hey, there&#039;s still a 6.1% chance we get lucky and move up.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kemba Walker is where you hope your FO is savvy enough to open up another path to the top.  Hope, it&#8217;s what we live on.  Hey, there&#8217;s still a 6.1% chance we get lucky and move up.</p>
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		By: Bruno Almeida		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2018 05:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I wasn&#039;t even specifically referring to the Knicks, more to stratos argument about there being many ways to build a team. 

The Knicks case is obviously different as Porzingis is the x-factor. Right now he&#039;s probably about as impactful as Kemba Walker: a productive star that&#039;s actually better suited to being a secondary star on a good team, and that will lead his team to not much more than 35-38 wins if he&#039;s your best player. He clearly has the chance of becoming much more than that. There&#039;s also a real chance he won&#039;t. 

If you tell me for sure Porzingis will never develop further? Sign me up for the blow up and rebuild, yeah. I still hope he&#039;ll develop, I just would rather have sucked more this year to pair him up with a guy who had a chance to also be a star.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t even specifically referring to the Knicks, more to stratos argument about there being many ways to build a team. </p>
<p>The Knicks case is obviously different as Porzingis is the x-factor. Right now he&#8217;s probably about as impactful as Kemba Walker: a productive star that&#8217;s actually better suited to being a secondary star on a good team, and that will lead his team to not much more than 35-38 wins if he&#8217;s your best player. He clearly has the chance of becoming much more than that. There&#8217;s also a real chance he won&#8217;t. </p>
<p>If you tell me for sure Porzingis will never develop further? Sign me up for the blow up and rebuild, yeah. I still hope he&#8217;ll develop, I just would rather have sucked more this year to pair him up with a guy who had a chance to also be a star.</p>
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		By: Grocer		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2018 04:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yeah, except rebuilding through the draft tends to result in a few seasons of mediocrity while your rookies develop, so you&#039;re gonna look like that hopelessly stuck team at some point in that development unless you draft a Lebron-style playoff ticket or you manage to roll it like Philly.  The Lebron path requires stupid good luck, Hinkie got railroaded out of the league (and he&#039;s never getting another job like that in the NBA) and that fate is waiting for the next GM who tries to obviously lose for multiple seasons, and what is/was possibly the best basketball team to ever exist spent several years in that mediocre zone before it all clicked.  

If you want to trade KP, Frank, anybody we can get anything decent for, blow it all up and start again then just say that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, except rebuilding through the draft tends to result in a few seasons of mediocrity while your rookies develop, so you&#8217;re gonna look like that hopelessly stuck team at some point in that development unless you draft a Lebron-style playoff ticket or you manage to roll it like Philly.  The Lebron path requires stupid good luck, Hinkie got railroaded out of the league (and he&#8217;s never getting another job like that in the NBA) and that fate is waiting for the next GM who tries to obviously lose for multiple seasons, and what is/was possibly the best basketball team to ever exist spent several years in that mediocre zone before it all clicked.  </p>
<p>If you want to trade KP, Frank, anybody we can get anything decent for, blow it all up and start again then just say that.</p>
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