It is straight up humiliating that these guys got more of a chance than Willy Hernangomez.

That was one of the things that made no sense about the deal. The Knicks sent Noah to Siberia, the fate of O’Quinn is still an unknown, and the team was about to start tanking without KP. There was every reason to keep him and start playing him at that point. All he had to do was wait another week or two and he would have had his chance to prove his value. Someone mentioned that there might be more to this story than we know. Maybe that’s the case.

The Knicks actually won the coin toss back in 2009, putting them #6 ahead of the Clippers at #7. Gallo and Gordon were both good picks at #6 and 7.

Of course, the Knicks also entered the draft in the #5 spot and got pushed back by the Bulls winning the lottery.

Also, the Knicks won two of their last three games in the 2008-09 season to push them from #3 to #5. But don’t worry, it’s not like the #4 and #5 picks were Russell Westbrook and Kevin Love. Oh…right…

Maybe, but can you explain why Jordan’s best scoring game came against the league’s #1 offense, and that he had another outstanding game against them in January? Or how he lit up Steven Adams? Maybe sometimes it’s just a fluky night?

There are going to be fluky nights, but apparently Kanter has a lot of fluky nights where he can’t defend anyone and the other team’s game plan is to attack him. 🙂

Seriously though, I think this is case where you HAVE TO watch the game, see the possessions, and how the opposing team is attacking and scoring. Sure, as someone said, there are times where the perimeter defense breaks down and Kanter is put in a terrible position. But that’s why having a defensive C is so valuable. A good one will stop the play sometimes. A bad one will allow them to score practically every time.

It’s a very small sample size but Ball has been amazing in the last few Lakers’ games and they have been super fun to watch. I can’t believe I’m saying this about the Lakers.

It does help that the Knicks are so terrible on defense. But also I can’t see how DeAndre hasn’t proved without a shadow of a doubt that he’s great.

But that’s just me, and I still think Tyson Chandler is the best Knick of the 2010s by far, so yeah.

The Clippers up against Kanter was a good example of why Kanter is not a starting C. Jordan went from a guy that gives you 11-12 very efficient points in 31-32 minutes to a guy that scored 19 hyper efficient points in 28 minutes. That doesn’t even take into consideration all the other players that scored inside because they targeted Kanter in some kind of P&R action or other play and he blew the defense.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordade01/gamelog-advanced/2018/

Maybe, but can you explain why Jordan’s best scoring game came against the league’s #1 offense, and that he had another outstanding game against them in January? Or how he lit up Steven Adams? Maybe sometimes it’s just a fluky night?

From the Knicks POW, the keyword is “development”, alas we’re not been good at that, we’re still paying Chasson Randle 1,3 MIL for playing in Madrid, let’s hope things will change.

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q22

It changes every year but is already projected for year 2/3/4/5 at the moment you sign.
It’s based on your years of experience in the league.

According to BBREF Troy Williams sign with Houston as a 2-year veteran:
– first year (this one) for exactly the minimum
– second year for exactly the minimum
– third year for 58K over the minimum

Spotrac has the same numbers.

I think it’s impossible to sign him for less than that in a new contract because the cap is expected to slightly raise and the minimum moves accordingly, plus at this stage the starting point for Troy will be higher because he’ll be a 3-year veteran, but the difference should be minimal.

Obviously It’s different if another team offers him more than the minimum or a full/partial MLE or BAE.

That’s fair. I didn’t look up what he was making previously. I also remembered that I’m pretty sure you can’t give multi-year deals for “the minimum” because the league minimum is set every year?

Anyway, I just think its a bit of Knicks PTSD to pan the move because it is basically the way it works out with all the guys who get cut every year these days. I do understand that everyone understands it’s not a huge move in the grand scheme of things.