New thread up about the Berman article about Horny’s future (or lack thereof).

Those two second rounders are probably the most Willy is ever gonna worth.

Even if true, then if that’s all you can get for him, you obviously don’t trade the guy. This wasn’t a guy on his way out – he’s a guy who was controlled cheaply for years to come. Trading him now for whatever they could get for him was a bad move.

Contrast that with Danny Ainge. The Brooklyn Nets fleecing. Flips Rondo in 2014 for Crowder et al plus two picks. Trades Jeff Green to Memphis in 2015 and gets back a 2019 first rounder. Trades Isaiah Thomas after his best season in the NBA and an overrated Crowder and gets back Kyrie.

None of those players got better after Ainge moved them.

Those two second rounders are probably the most Willy is ever gonna worth.

Nice analysis.

yes, but what if we can pick TWO players that aren’t as good as Willy?!

lol

Re: Willy’s sample size, the thing is, those numbers this year are consistent with his numbers last year. He is an efficient scorer who rebounds well. He is on a multi-year deal that pays him little more than league minimum. That kind of value is almost impossible to beat.

So, yeah, it is a big deal, and it is totally a sign that at the least we need to be worried about Perry’s assessment of value. The Mudiay signing is another cause: the amount of improvement he’d need to make in a season and a half to become even league average is almost unfathomable. It has probably never been done in league history.

I concede to Lavor that he has made some decent moves beyond Burke: Beasley and Jack (and Sessions, though it didn’t work out) were all good moves. I was ecstatic about the Melo trade, but won’t call it a good move unless we don’t resign Kanter. So I won’t give him that one. And Williams…I guess he could be a rotation player on a good team in two years, but he could also be out of the league. Again, hard to call at this point.

I’m not saying he’s terrible, but he’s shown as much or more cause for concern than optimism.

On the other hand, at least he’s not tweeting random shit about other teams and players….

http://www.backpicks.com/2017/12/11/the-backpicks-goat-the-40-best-careers-in-nba-history/

Willy has played a total of 141 minutes for the Hornets. Most of the minutes that Willy has played have come in garbage time.

There is absolutely no conclusions you can draw from a sample size that small.

I am not a big fan of the trade but using a sample size to draw your conclusion about the trade is ridiculous.

The positive about him is that he’s shown a desire to fight with ownership and management, which is probably more useful at MSG than having actual coaching skills.