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		By: Sir Robin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2018 21:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Strat. Respectfully disagree. Its already the most player friendly league in professional sports history. NYKs offered and Noah accepted the deal. Why do I think if they agree to buyout the discount would be equal to or less than the players min which he would sign for subsequently? Or the million or so dollars Melo left on the table when he signed. The FO effed up again.  Horns should never have made the statement about the situation not being finalized because he&#039;s still on the roster. That destroyed our leverage. Let him sit. He&#039;s more anxious for the release than we should be.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strat. Respectfully disagree. Its already the most player friendly league in professional sports history. NYKs offered and Noah accepted the deal. Why do I think if they agree to buyout the discount would be equal to or less than the players min which he would sign for subsequently? Or the million or so dollars Melo left on the table when he signed. The FO effed up again.  Horns should never have made the statement about the situation not being finalized because he&#8217;s still on the roster. That destroyed our leverage. Let him sit. He&#8217;s more anxious for the release than we should be.</p>
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		By: Stratomatic "It's tough being us"		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stratomatic "It's tough being us"]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2018 14:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@64

The reason the Knicks traded Hernangomez was because he&#039;s a young promising player that wanted developmental time, but he was buried on the bench, upset, his agent complained, and he asked for a trade given there was a lot of interest elsewhere.    

They could have said &quot;no&quot;, but then Willy and his agent would get pissed off and other players and their agents would see the Knicks  burying a promising young guy that many other teams were interested in and hurting his career development.  That&#039;s not what you want either. 

You can ask why they accepted a Melo deal that included Kanter when they already had Noah, O&#039;Quinn, and Willy, but they were trying to keep Melo happy and get as much back as possible. 

You can ask why they were playing O&#039;Quinn when he might be gone anyway.  It was because he earned the minutes on merit, was in a contract year, and burying him when he was playing better and in a contract year would have been even a worse look than burying Willy. 

Teams have to deal with players, their careers, their families, their agents, the union, the league, and the reputation of their franchise. They can&#039;t just move pieces around based on numbers. They are tying to keep everyone happy while building their team because there are downsides to players and agents hating you. 

They have a similar issue with Noah now.  They could take a hard line and just tell him stay home so they could potentially use his contract later, but then you are pissing him and his agent off and the rest of the league will see that you have a veteran player totally buried away from the team when other teams want him. That&#039;s not going to make other players, agents or the player union happy either.  We are the ones that made the bad deal. We are the ones refusing to play him even in garbage time and are incapable of trading him.  But he wants to play and playoff teams want him.  So the idea is find something that works for both sides where we save a little money and he gets to play.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@64</p>
<p>The reason the Knicks traded Hernangomez was because he&#8217;s a young promising player that wanted developmental time, but he was buried on the bench, upset, his agent complained, and he asked for a trade given there was a lot of interest elsewhere.    </p>
<p>They could have said &#8220;no&#8221;, but then Willy and his agent would get pissed off and other players and their agents would see the Knicks  burying a promising young guy that many other teams were interested in and hurting his career development.  That&#8217;s not what you want either. </p>
<p>You can ask why they accepted a Melo deal that included Kanter when they already had Noah, O&#8217;Quinn, and Willy, but they were trying to keep Melo happy and get as much back as possible. </p>
<p>You can ask why they were playing O&#8217;Quinn when he might be gone anyway.  It was because he earned the minutes on merit, was in a contract year, and burying him when he was playing better and in a contract year would have been even a worse look than burying Willy. </p>
<p>Teams have to deal with players, their careers, their families, their agents, the union, the league, and the reputation of their franchise. They can&#8217;t just move pieces around based on numbers. They are tying to keep everyone happy while building their team because there are downsides to players and agents hating you. </p>
<p>They have a similar issue with Noah now.  They could take a hard line and just tell him stay home so they could potentially use his contract later, but then you are pissing him and his agent off and the rest of the league will see that you have a veteran player totally buried away from the team when other teams want him. That&#8217;s not going to make other players, agents or the player union happy either.  We are the ones that made the bad deal. We are the ones refusing to play him even in garbage time and are incapable of trading him.  But he wants to play and playoff teams want him.  So the idea is find something that works for both sides where we save a little money and he gets to play.</p>
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		By: Brian Cronin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2018 07:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://knickerblogger.net/2018/02/knicks-morning-news-2018-02-23/#comment-613788&quot;&gt;Bruno Almeida&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Butler’s xray’s apparently came negative, hope it’s nothing as serious as it looked.

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Initial X-rays were negative, but we&#039;ll know for sure if they didn&#039;t miss something less obvious tomorrow. Fingers crossed for him.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://knickerblogger.net/2018/02/knicks-morning-news-2018-02-23/#comment-613788">Bruno Almeida</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>Butler’s xray’s apparently came negative, hope it’s nothing as serious as it looked.</p>
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<p>Initial X-rays were negative, but we&#8217;ll know for sure if they didn&#8217;t miss something less obvious tomorrow. Fingers crossed for him.</p>
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		By: Bruno Almeida		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruno Almeida]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2018 05:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I had to re-read the terms of Lou Williams&#039; extension a couple of times, because I couldn&#039;t believe it was so cheap. Jerry West must have brainwashed him to take half of what THJ is making. He needs to fire his agent asap.

Butler&#039;s xray&#039;s apparently came negative, hope it&#039;s nothing as serious as it looked.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had to re-read the terms of Lou Williams&#8217; extension a couple of times, because I couldn&#8217;t believe it was so cheap. Jerry West must have brainwashed him to take half of what THJ is making. He needs to fire his agent asap.</p>
<p>Butler&#8217;s xray&#8217;s apparently came negative, hope it&#8217;s nothing as serious as it looked.</p>
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		By: Jack Bauer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jack Bauer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2018 05:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sean Miller caught on tape offering money to get Ayton to sign with Arizona. Not good for the Wildcats, he’s done if that’s true.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean Miller caught on tape offering money to get Ayton to sign with Arizona. Not good for the Wildcats, he’s done if that’s true.</p>
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		By: The Honorable Cock Jowles		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2018 05:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s absurd that Lou Williams is still a Clipper. That man deserved better.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s absurd that Lou Williams is still a Clipper. That man deserved better.</p>
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		By: Bruno Almeida		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruno Almeida]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2018 05:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Damn. Minnesota collectively can&#039;t catch a break.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn. Minnesota collectively can&#8217;t catch a break.</p>
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		By: Brian Cronin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian Cronin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2018 04:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://knickerblogger.net/2018/02/knicks-morning-news-2018-02-23/#comment-613783&quot;&gt;Bruno Almeida&lt;/a&gt;.

Yikes, Jimmy Butler with a scary injury. The initial MRI was negative, so maaaaaaaaaaaaaybe it wasn&#039;t a torn MCL/ACL. Here&#039;s hoping!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://knickerblogger.net/2018/02/knicks-morning-news-2018-02-23/#comment-613783">Bruno Almeida</a>.</p>
<p>Yikes, Jimmy Butler with a scary injury. The initial MRI was negative, so maaaaaaaaaaaaaybe it wasn&#8217;t a torn MCL/ACL. Here&#8217;s hoping!</p>
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		By: Bruno Almeida		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2018 03:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[First because it&#039;s a current second for a player of no value. Second because it was seconds in 2020 and 2021 for a player with some value.

The Knicks could also buy a second rounder this year to replace the one sent for Mudiay. My complaint, and that of others who argued similarly, is why give anything to take a flyer on Mudiay of all people. I even called it an inconsequential deal, because that&#039;s what it kinda is considering McDermott would not be retained anyway, we&#039;re complaining about the Knicks using any asset to acquire Mudiay because it shows this front office continues to value the wrong things when looking at young players / taking chances on small deals.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First because it&#8217;s a current second for a player of no value. Second because it was seconds in 2020 and 2021 for a player with some value.</p>
<p>The Knicks could also buy a second rounder this year to replace the one sent for Mudiay. My complaint, and that of others who argued similarly, is why give anything to take a flyer on Mudiay of all people. I even called it an inconsequential deal, because that&#8217;s what it kinda is considering McDermott would not be retained anyway, we&#8217;re complaining about the Knicks using any asset to acquire Mudiay because it shows this front office continues to value the wrong things when looking at young players / taking chances on small deals.</p>
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		By: Brian Cronin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2018 03:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://knickerblogger.net/2018/02/knicks-morning-news-2018-02-23/#comment-613781&quot;&gt;johnno&lt;/a&gt;.

Future second rounders are worth considerably less than current year second rounders.

In this instance, the two future seconds combined are probably worth a &lt;i&gt;bit&lt;/i&gt; less than the second they gave up to get Mudiay in terms of current trade value. 

But yes, in general, seconds tend not to be great assets, which is why I certainly wasn&#039;t freaking about about them dealing one for Mudiay.

However, when you&#039;re a team of little to no assets like the Knicks, you probably should be more careful with your seconds. So it probably wasn&#039;t the best idea to trade one for Mudiay. Not a terrible idea, of course, but probably not the best idea. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://knickerblogger.net/2018/02/knicks-morning-news-2018-02-23/#comment-613781">johnno</a>.</p>
<p>Future second rounders are worth considerably less than current year second rounders.</p>
<p>In this instance, the two future seconds combined are probably worth a <i>bit</i> less than the second they gave up to get Mudiay in terms of current trade value. </p>
<p>But yes, in general, seconds tend not to be great assets, which is why I certainly wasn&#8217;t freaking about about them dealing one for Mudiay.</p>
<p>However, when you&#8217;re a team of little to no assets like the Knicks, you probably should be more careful with your seconds. So it probably wasn&#8217;t the best idea to trade one for Mudiay. Not a terrible idea, of course, but probably not the best idea. </p>
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