DeAndre Jordan is third in the league in wins produced after finishing in the top two for four straight years. That’s why they’re not completely awful. The logo isn’t going to look nearly as smart when Jordan leaves. It was gross malpractice even to have been in the position to make the Paul and Griffin deals in the first place.

I suspect we value Jordan a little differently. I think he’s a very good player, but nowhere near the 3rd best in the league on Wins. In any event, the mess with Paul was a Doc Rivers issue. It had nothing to do with West. The deal they got for Paul was pretty good under the circumstances.

It hurt Willy’s playing time and trade value and ultimately lead to him being traded for less than most of us thought he was worth.

It caused this blowout with Noah that has probably eliminated any chance we had of moving him as part of a deal either now or as an expiring contract. To which I’ll add, I’m not even entirely convinced he’s not our best C when he’s healthy.

Management seems to like Kanter and may wind up overpaying him again.

I like that Chicago 2nd round pick and McBuckets helped give us a cheap free roll on Mudiay, but boy did that deal create a mess. Let’s hope the same thing doesn’t happen at PG.

It would just be eating $5 million, right? By the way, how in the world is Jeff Hornacek getting paid $5 million a year? They wouldn’t go to $6 million for Steve Kerr, but they’re paying Horny $5 million? This organization is so crazily incompetent.

Yep. My apologies. $15 mill was the whole contract for the 3 years.

I think there’s potentially some other factors involved. On a purely business front, the idea of bringing Noah back for financial reasons (i.e. at least getting something of value back for what he is being paid) makes sense, but I think you also need to take into account what impact that will have on the rest of the team. It probably doesn’t mean a lot, but if the current group of guys (more importantly the young guys) like playing for Hornacek, then what impact will his firing have just to potentially appease Noah have? Not saying that would be the be all and end all reason he gets moved of course, but maybe something worth considering.

That’s an interesting point you raise I hadn’t thought of. I guess from a financial perspective for ownership and cap implications, it would probably be easier to let Horny go and payout the final $15 million on his contract than to stretch Noah. Seems like based on recent comments Noah isn’t likely to come back, but watch this space I guess.

It would just be eating $5 million, right? By the way, how in the world is Jeff Hornacek getting paid $5 million a year? They wouldn’t go to $6 million for Steve Kerr, but they’re paying Horny $5 million? This organization is so crazily incompetent.

I think Noah might just be done as a Knick period, but he’s definitely done for as long as Horny is still here. So I’d just as soon move on and see if Noah might be able to be convinced to return for a new coach. The idea of punting on, what, $40 million worth of Noah’s contract? It’s so aggravating. He’s vastly overpaid, but Noah can still actually play a little! They might actually get a team to take him as an expiring if he proves he can play the next couple of years and if he is not that good, who cares, they’re trying to lose!

However, at this point, I’m actually more interested in the Knicks not cutting Noah than I am in seeing Horny get a “no expectations” third season, so I’d just as soon get rid of Horny in the hopes of maybe getting Noah to come back.

That’s an interesting point you raise I hadn’t thought of. I guess from a financial perspective for ownership and cap implications, it would probably be easier to let Horny go and payout the final $15 million on his contract than to stretch Noah. Seems like based on recent comments Noah isn’t likely to come back, but watch this space I guess.

There are soooooooo many reasons for the knicks not to tank this season.

There are just soooooo many. Like, too many to even begin naming them.

Here’s the irony. The same people who want to tank all have different opinions about who the knicks should pick in that slot, or don’t even have an opinion.

This…is a great reason to tank. There are many different directions we could go in this draft and we shouldn’t deprive ourselves of any of them for no benefit.

I generally agree that Horny has been hamstrung by executive incompetence in both of his first two seasons as the coach of the Knicks (talk about bad luck – they were different executives each time – then again, he is coaching for the Knicks, so executive incompetence is sort of the default state of affairs here). However, at this point, I’m actually more interested in the Knicks not cutting Noah than I am in seeing Horny get a “no expectations” third season, so I’d just as soon get rid of Horny in the hopes of maybe getting Noah to come back.

I just really, really don’t want to see the Knicks punt two seasons of Noah’s contract. Not when he can probably still play a little. It’s just so, so stupid.