I’m not going to argue this again.

You say….as you continuously argue it again.

I’m not going to argue this again. Phil had his flaws and made mistakes (Noah for sure).

I think most people are not accounting for the complexities of running a basketball team with financial considerations and underrate the fact that cap space is an asset. If cap space is managed well it buys you time and flexibility in adding players and subtracting players while you are looking for long term solutions. They are also conveniently ignoring where we would be now if we had those 2 first round picks and how it might have changed strategy and willingness of good free agents to play here.

Most people are playing fantasy sports.

I’m still down with KP. He’s not as good as we’d like, but he is still a good player. His defense has been very good.

KP’s big problem is conditioning. You don’t figure that out mid-season. They still might sort it out, there’s clearly not an easy answer. If not he’ll probably be ass. But if they do..

I remember a game in the 1993-94 against the Sonics where Ewing shot 6 for almost 30 in a game.

You’d be surprised at some of the crazy one-game totals you can see with some of the all-time greats!

Phil definitely was a hell of a coach. He’ll always have that.

He’s already forgotten more about basketball than the cumulative knowledge of everyone on this forum.

That’s reub’s line. It’s not a particularly persuasive line.

It doesn’t really matter how much Phil has forgotten about basketball. He proved to be a catastrophic failure when it came to putting a team together. He thought it was a good idea to trade for Derrick Rose. He also thought it was a good idea to sign Joakim Noah to a long-term contract. Most of the people here who know what they are talking about knew that both of those ideas were horrible ideas, and howled in pain the moment those moves were announced.

It really doesn’t matter how much the guy knows. He made shitty moves anyway, because he is an egomaniac who thought he could turn Carmelo Anthony, Derrick Rose and Joakim Noah into some sort of title-contending “Big 3” by teaching those guys the oh-so-magical ways of his preferred system of playing the game. He may know a lot about the game, but he doesn’t know shit about his own limitations. Phil Jackson as GM was the epitome of the Peter Principle. He got promoted to a job he was unqualified for. Great coach, terrible GM.

Let’s not pretend that Phil tried to trade Zing because he had a brilliant insight into Zing’s future. He did it because Porzingis “disrespected” him by skipping the exit meeting. That’s it.

That was almost certainly a factor, but there were other reasons.

If you look at everything Jackson and Rosen said about KP, you’d get the impression they thought he was going to be a perennial all star caliber player, but they were not entirely sold on him because of his body, size, core, and tendency to get injured.

I agree. Having a better PG and getting THJ back in the lineup will take some pressure off him and help, but I doubt it’s the difference between what he’s doing now and being a top notch player.

I’m down on KP, but I think he’s a good player and likely to get better.

I have all the patience in the world with skills and physical development. I haven’t said a bad word about Frank yet even though he was terrible tonight. I don’t have patience with stupid shot selection. We suffered for years watching Melo hold the ball, go into isolation mode, and take long 2s and other bad shots. We finally moved on from Melo and KP is playing just like him.

I’m sorry, I just can’t give him the no Point Guard pass anymore. Does having the worst guard rotation in the league only affect him on the entire team?

Kanter, O’Quinn, McDermott and Lee all are having career high ts% numbers for the season, and they also play with Jack, Ntilikina and Baker. Beasley has his second best ts% season so far, only worse than last year (when he played with PG virtuosos Dellavedova and Brogdon).

So not having a good Point Guard affects only Porzingis out of an entire roster of people incapable of creating their own shots?