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Tuesday, September 16, 2014

With the 407th pick, the Knicks select….. wait for it….. Kostas Papanikolaou

I’m probably missing a vowel or twelve in there somewhere. Anyway, with a few wish-listers falling in the final moments before the Knicks’ sole pick — Darius Miller and Doron Lamb just to name a pair — talk of snagging local hero Scott Machado or Marquette product Darius Johnson-Odom appeared close to actual commencement. Either would’ve made sense. Either would’ve fit, at least theoretically. Either would’ve been people we’ve heard of.

And then… VOWELS.

Not much is known about the 6’9″ Greek Big who carried his team — Olympiakos — to the EuroBasket title. At least I think that’s what it’s called. Or is that the soccer thing? Whatever. The few highlights I’ve seen definitely point to potential, although, as with all things Continental, ceilings are pretty hard to decipher across the pond. This one had the most YouTube hits. Like, by a pretty wide margin. At 38,000. Still, pretty sick throw-down.

OK look, it’s the 48th pick, so we probably shouldn’t get our boxers in a bind just yet. Hollinger seems to be a pretty big fan of the pick and — despite the fact that we’ll likely be stashing him away for another year or two — others seem to agree. Also, judging by his Wikipedia page, dude’s got enough precious metals to bail out the EuroZone. As for his stats? Well, I can’t understand them. Although 2.03 feet seems pretty short.

Rest assured we’ll have more on Kostas as the days (dios?) unfold. But I think we can all agree that, at the very least, the Scott Layden Fairy has a real feel for the pillows.

23 comments on “With the 407th pick, the Knicks select….. wait for it….. Kostas Papanikolaou

  1. LMNYKFAN4LIFE

    well i said it last thread the only way i like this pick is if big IF THAT MACHADO DOESN’T GET PICKED. well he didnt get picked so i love this pic because buford didnt get picked either so definatly back up plan there. for once they took a gamble and came out winning. if we get machado undrafted thats two point gaurds that will lead the knicks that were undrafted can u say unprecedented. wow what a draft and there is still some quality players we can get out of the draft left. this draft was deep. ok im done good luck knicks

  2. DRed

    I would have preferred Denmon, or maybe Machado, but I really can’t even pretend to know anything about this Grecian, so who knows?

  3. jon abbey

    the good news is that since the Spurs took Denmon, hopefully THCockJaw can hang out at DuncanBlogger from now on.

  4. nicos

    If the Knicks resign Lin, Fields, Novak, and JR (and it seems they would like to) all 12 active roster spots will be filled so I can see the logic of a draft and stash pick. The Knicks will still have three open roster spots which will hopefully attract some of the better undrafted guys like Machado and Buford to fill out the summer league roster.

  5. SeeWhyDee77

    I know nothing about this guy so I have no clue how he fits…but judging by his measurables and euroleague profile and draftexpress info..I don’t see him getting any burn. He’s 6’8″ with limited agility, they say…and while they say he’s no slouch on defense, with a 6’8′ wingspan and reliance on physical play on defense- I just can’t see him being effective defensively in the NBA as a wing. Definitely as a small ball 4 I see a place for him. Again..I know next to nothing about him..I’m tryina gauge his fit by his measurables and draftexpress and euroleague profile. I hope he surprises all of us because it looks like a bad pick..especially since Machado was on the board. But that’s why I work in banking and not a GM of a sports team lol..I don’t get to see what they see and make those decisions. It sounds like this is a Woodson pick because every report said something positive about his defense. Good news about thi pick tho? He’s only 21 and we problee can afford to stash him overseas for one more season to develop even further. Hope he comes back with more floor spacing ability. Although I am intrigued by his reported defensive style and ability as we do need players on the roster with his mentality. Tyson and Shump can’t do it alone.

  6. jon abbey

    nicos:
    If the Knicks resign Lin, Fields, Novak, and JR (and it seems they would like to) all 12 active roster spots will be filled so I can see the logic of a draft and stash pick.The Knicks will still have three open roster spots which will hopefully attract some of the better undrafted guys like Machado and Buford to fill out the summer league roster.

    who are the other guards besides Lin and Smith? Fields is a SF ideally, Shumpie is hurt, who’s the backup PG? there are lots of free agent options at least, one of them will hopefully want to come to MSG.

  7. nicos

    jon abbey: who are the other guards besides Lin and Smith? Fields is a SF ideally, Shumpie is hurt, who’s the backup PG? there are lots of free agent options at least, one of them will hopefully want to come to MSG.

    How quickly they forget- it’s Douglas, unfortunately. I do think the Knick’s will be able to find a free agent point who’d help them as much as anyone they possibly could have drafted (and hopefully keep TD inactive if he doesn’t regain his shot).

  8. SeeWhyDee77

    What scares me about this pick is the last foreign player I can remember the team drafting that ended up staying overseas to develop is the incomparable Frederic Weis. On tha flipside tho..both Machado and Hollis Thompson r undrafted FA’s and they fit a need. Low risk high reward too. Suddenly I’m thinkin instead of throwing 3 mil at a pg..y not sign the 2 aforementioned UFA’s, that pg from Europe the te is allegedly interested in (sorry I forgot his name and I’m on my iPhone so I can’t look it up without complications) and let Machado, the other pg and Douglas battle it out behind Lin..and throw that 3 mil at an available big for insurance against Stat breakin down.

  9. JK47

    Of the players still available with the Knicks’ pick, the only ones I really wanted were Denmon and Machado. The end of the 2nd round had a lot of draft-and-stash types in it. Papanikolau looks like he could be a decent bench player someday, so a mild “hooray” for this one.

    Machado of course went undrafted, and bringing him into camp seems like a no-brainer.

  10. Z

    SeeWhyDee77:
    What scares me about this pick is the last foreign player I can remember the team draftingthat ended up staying overseas to develop is the incomparable Frederic Weis…

    But Weis was basically a lottery pick with all-star players still on the board… This was the 48th pick with a bunch of leftovers lingering around. There’s really no comparison.

  11. JK47

    As the resident ‘Cuse homer of this site I have to say I am baffled by the pick of Dion Waiters at #4. He might be a pretty nice player but his ceiling is above-average starter. He’s great in transition but doesn’t have the killer first step you want out of an elite SG. He’s a decent shooter but not exceptional. Played good defense in Boeheim’s zone but at 6’4″ he’ll struggle to defend some of the longer shooting guards in the NBA. He’s a combo guard– a potentially useful piece but not the franchise guy you want at #4.

    Thomas Robinson seemed like the obvious pick to me– a prototypical PF with massive upside and a potentially great fit with Kyrie Irving. The Cavs blew this one.

  12. Robtachi

    If the favorable Bird Rights decision gets overturned on appeal, do the Knicks have any sort of grievance they can file on the NBA considering their draft strategy was likely predicated on the idea that they’d be able to re-sign most of their existing depth? Gotta think that if it turns out they have to use the MLE on Lin and lose Novak/JR/others, they would definitely have gone into tonight looking to replace those guys with some rotational players who can contribute this year. A successful appeal would be a pretty huge screwjob at this point.

  13. jon abbey

    nicos: How quickly they forget- it’s Douglas, unfortunately.I do think the Knick’s will be able to find a free agent point who’d help them as much as anyone they possibly could have drafted (and hopefully keep TD inactive if he doesn’t regain his shot).

    yeah, I think it was made clear in the second half of last season that Douglas can’t be counted on for absolutely any minutes, so he doesn’t count until he proves otherwise.

  14. jon abbey

    Robtachi:
    If the favorable Bird Rights decision gets overturned on appeal, do the Knicks have any sort of grievance they can file on the NBA considering their draft strategy was likely predicated on the idea that they’d be able to re-sign most of their existing depth?Gotta think that if it turns out they have to use the MLE on Lin and lose Novak/JR/others, they would definitely have gone into tonight looking to replace those guys with some rotational players who can contribute this year.A successful appeal would be a pretty huge screwjob at this point.

    Howard Beck reported last night that an agreement to settle this will likely be worked out today or tomorrow, which will presumably let these 4-5 players keep their Bird rights, but not players in the same situation going forward, so NY will likely be OK on this.

  15. Frank

    One thing this pick seems to indicate is that the Knicks are very much expecting to win the Bird Rights case appeal and that they really expect to resign Novak and JR (Lin was coming back regardless). Without Novak and JR, not getting more shooting would have been a total abdication of GM duty.

    It also tells us that they expect to sign at least one backcourt guy with the mini-MLE (duh). Assuming it’s someone like Jason Kidd or Kirk Hinrich, we would basically be two deep at every position:

    C- TC, JJx2
    PF- Stat, Harrellson
    SF- Melo, Novak
    SG- Shumpert, Fields, JR
    PG- Lin, Kidd/Hinrich, TD

    We were already arguing about minute distribution last year- I seriously doubt any daft pick would have played at all, and we would have wasted 1 year of a nonguaranteed cheap restricted rookie contract.

    I dunno- I think Grunwald has done enough for us to give him a little slack. If they love this Greek kid and don’t think there was a player who would play more than TD does this year,then I agree with taking the best draft and stash guy on the board.

  16. dsi

    Hey, it’s not the Knicks without Clyde reminding us that a) the Knicks carry a great tradition, and b) some names just can’t be pronounced. Clyde on the mike with Papanikolaou on the floor? Please – that’s gold. I can’t wait.

  17. 2FOR18

    Frank:
    One thing this pick seems to indicate is that the Knicks are very much expecting to win the Bird Rights case appeal and that they really expect to resign Novak and JR (Lin was coming back regardless).Without Novak and JR, not getting more shooting would have been a total abdication of GM duty.

    It also tells us that they expect to sign at least one backcourt guy with the mini-MLE (duh). Assuming it’s someone like Jason Kidd or Kirk Hinrich, we would basically be two deep at every position:

    C- TC, JJx2
    PF- Stat, Harrellson
    SF- Melo, Novak
    SG- Shumpert, Fields, JR
    PG- Lin, Kidd/Hinrich, TD

    We were already arguing about minute distribution last year- I seriously doubt any daft pick would have played at all, and we would have wasted 1 year of a nonguaranteed cheap restricted rookie contract.

    I dunno- I think Grunwald has done enough for us to give him a little slack. If they love this Greek kid and don’t think there was a player who would play more than TD does this year,then I agree with taking the best draft and stash guy on the board.

    That was exactly what I was thinking with the Papa Doc pick, a Greek man’s melo; they must know that JR is coming back. And I really like Hinrich since he can play both guard spots and play D – not sure what his MV is.

  18. Frank

    Some good Youtube videos on Kostas:

    Defense highlights from Euroleague Final 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0FTS9fvm7g

    Offense highlights from Euroleague Final 4:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6qurAC4BVw

    Gotta say – since these are just from a game or two (and not like a collection of highlights over a whole year – anyone can fill up a highlight video given 2 years to collect them!) — I’m pretty impressed. He showed a pretty good handle, spin moves, and toughness around the rim. He looks to have a pretty quick release on his J also. And the defense video shows what everyone says about him – that he plays hard and never gives up on a play. He feels like a bigger (but probably slower) Manu — if he can even be 60% of what Manu is, this is a great pick.

    Unrelated to us, but what a sh*t sandwich for Daryl Morey IMHO. Unless there’s another big move to be made, you traded your #1 pick, Chase Budinger and Samuel Dalembert (both on GREAT contracts btw) for Jeremy Lamb, Royce White, and Terrence Jones? And you still have Scola, Marcus Morris, Parsons (listed as a PF), Jon Leuer, and Patrick Patterson? Can you start a whole team of PFs? That team is starting to feel like the Othella Harrington Clarence Weatherspoon Knicks.

    Unless there’s another move to be made.

  19. bobneptune

    I cannot believe none of our intrepid press or readers has asked the obvious question is this guy is related to the famous Dr. Georgios Papanikolaou, who invented the famous “Pap smear”!

    Hopefully, this guy won’t turn out to be an STD for the Knicks moving forward.

  20. arro

    Knicks signed Gallinari 6th in 2008

    Z: But Weis was basically a lottery pick with all-star players still on the board… This was the 48th pick with a bunch of leftovers lingering around. There’s really no comparison.

  21. ceh

    I guess he’s on contract in Greece for another 2 years, so we won’t see him at all for a while (minimum 1 more year if we exercise a $1 million buyout).

    What’s his nickname going to be…above average-sized papi? Better than Pap smear. And that’s an epic beard on Wikipedia. Jorts now has some competition in that department.

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