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		<title>By: Nicholas Chivily</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/using-sarcasm-heres-some-great-news/#comment-70253</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas Chivily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 15:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I see Curry&#039;s points (I would guess it&#039;s per 48 minutes) are not the most he&#039;s ever had and not out of line with his past performance.  The eyes say he has improved ove rtime here but the numbers say he was just as productive as a Bull.  Interesting that his FT go up by two to three per game with Knicks.  NY favoritism or something else?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see Curry&#8217;s points (I would guess it&#8217;s per 48 minutes) are not the most he&#8217;s ever had and not out of line with his past performance.  The eyes say he has improved ove rtime here but the numbers say he was just as productive as a Bull.  Interesting that his FT go up by two to three per game with Knicks.  NY favoritism or something else?</p>
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		<title>By: Owen</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/using-sarcasm-heres-some-great-news/#comment-70247</link>
		<dc:creator>Owen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 15:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This was the fifth game for the Raptors in seven days. Might explain why the Raptors looked so flat.

Paul said above he probably would take Bosh, but would &quot;feel comfortable throwing Curry at him.&quot;I guess a more conventional way of measuring the gaining and maintaining possesion side of the basketball ledger is:

(rebounds + steals - turnovers)= net possessions

Over the past five games Chris Bosh had 54 rebounds, five steals, and  four turnovers. So he was a plus 55 in net possessions, for an +11 ppg

Eddy Curry over his last five games collected 30 rebounds, had 1 steal, and committed 19 turnovers for a net possessions gained of +12. Thats just a huge difference. 11 ppg versus 2.4 ppg.

I know you guys dont like the Wages of Wins, but there is an excellent chart there comparing Curry to the average center across all categories, and as this is a statistically oriented blog I am going to post it (is that the second time?) 

http://www.wagesofwins.com/Curry63.html

Forget about the Wins Produced and Win Score,  its still pretty illuminating if you look at the regular numbers. His possessions gained per 48 minutes for instance is 5.6, while the average center nets 10.8.

I also noticed he is actually closing in on Andre Iguodala for third place on the turnovers list, very exciting stuff, he&#039;s just one back at the moment. If we work the ball into him in the post enough he may even catch Steve Nash (11.8 apg), who only leads him by five turnovers.

Lol, its a pretty toxic combo; worst rebounding full time center in basketball, nearly third most turnovers in the league at any position.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was the fifth game for the Raptors in seven days. Might explain why the Raptors looked so flat.</p>
<p>Paul said above he probably would take Bosh, but would &#8220;feel comfortable throwing Curry at him.&#8221;I guess a more conventional way of measuring the gaining and maintaining possesion side of the basketball ledger is:</p>
<p>(rebounds + steals &#8211; turnovers)= net possessions</p>
<p>Over the past five games Chris Bosh had 54 rebounds, five steals, and  four turnovers. So he was a plus 55 in net possessions, for an +11 ppg</p>
<p>Eddy Curry over his last five games collected 30 rebounds, had 1 steal, and committed 19 turnovers for a net possessions gained of +12. Thats just a huge difference. 11 ppg versus 2.4 ppg.</p>
<p>I know you guys dont like the Wages of Wins, but there is an excellent chart there comparing Curry to the average center across all categories, and as this is a statistically oriented blog I am going to post it (is that the second time?) </p>
<p><a href="http://www.wagesofwins.com/Curry63.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.wagesofwins.com/Curry63.html</a></p>
<p>Forget about the Wins Produced and Win Score,  its still pretty illuminating if you look at the regular numbers. His possessions gained per 48 minutes for instance is 5.6, while the average center nets 10.8.</p>
<p>I also noticed he is actually closing in on Andre Iguodala for third place on the turnovers list, very exciting stuff, he&#8217;s just one back at the moment. If we work the ball into him in the post enough he may even catch Steve Nash (11.8 apg), who only leads him by five turnovers.</p>
<p>Lol, its a pretty toxic combo; worst rebounding full time center in basketball, nearly third most turnovers in the league at any position.</p>
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		<title>By: KnickerBlogger</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/using-sarcasm-heres-some-great-news/#comment-70046</link>
		<dc:creator>KnickerBlogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2007 23:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[jon, the problem with that analogy is establishing the run is just a cliche. See: http://www.footballoutsiders.com/index.php?p=3

&lt;blockquote&gt;So in 2002, at least, the axiom that teams need to establish the run early to win did not hold true.  Some teams won by running early.  Other teams won without running early.  It also appears that teams with high rushing totals aren?t necessarily establishing their running game from the first snap onwards ? but when a winning football team has a high rushing total, it is very likely they got many of those yards while running out the clock.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

While in basketball the points in the paint might lead to more fouls, I&#039;m not exactly sure that points in the paint are any more important than any other type. (At least in the half court set).

Also I don&#039;t buy that Mark Jackson&#039;s departure led to 10 more wins for the Knicks. In his last year in NY, the Knicks were #1 overall on defense. The next year, NY was still #1 on defense, but dropped from 11th on offense to 20th. Of course if the Knicks kept Jackson that year, we wouldn&#039;t have suffered through Charles Smith. 

Oh and speaking of Charles Smith, anyone see Jeffries blow that layup in transition today? It wasn&#039;t that he was wide open, but once he evaded that last defender he just had to lay it in the hoop. I hope if the Knicks go to an important Game  5, Jeffries is no where near the court in the final seconds.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jon, the problem with that analogy is establishing the run is just a cliche. See: <a href="http://www.footballoutsiders.com/index.php?p=3" rel="nofollow">http://www.footballoutsiders.com/index.php?p=3</a></p>
<blockquote><p>So in 2002, at least, the axiom that teams need to establish the run early to win did not hold true.  Some teams won by running early.  Other teams won without running early.  It also appears that teams with high rushing totals aren?t necessarily establishing their running game from the first snap onwards ? but when a winning football team has a high rushing total, it is very likely they got many of those yards while running out the clock.</p></blockquote>
<p>While in basketball the points in the paint might lead to more fouls, I&#8217;m not exactly sure that points in the paint are any more important than any other type. (At least in the half court set).</p>
<p>Also I don&#8217;t buy that Mark Jackson&#8217;s departure led to 10 more wins for the Knicks. In his last year in NY, the Knicks were #1 overall on defense. The next year, NY was still #1 on defense, but dropped from 11th on offense to 20th. Of course if the Knicks kept Jackson that year, we wouldn&#8217;t have suffered through Charles Smith. </p>
<p>Oh and speaking of Charles Smith, anyone see Jeffries blow that layup in transition today? It wasn&#8217;t that he was wide open, but once he evaded that last defender he just had to lay it in the hoop. I hope if the Knicks go to an important Game  5, Jeffries is no where near the court in the final seconds.</p>
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		<title>By: jon abbey</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/using-sarcasm-heres-some-great-news/#comment-70038</link>
		<dc:creator>jon abbey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2007 22:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;stats are like a bikini,they reveal a lot but not everything&quot;

ha!

I think one issue is the difference between points in the paint and points from the perimeter. they all count the same (obviously), but you can maybe make a case that it&#039;s somewhat analogous to rushing yards/passing yards in football. rushing yards/points in the paint tend to take more of a physical toll on the defense, as well as help to set up the outside shooting/passing game. just something I thought of the other day, I think it&#039;s reasonably legit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;stats are like a bikini,they reveal a lot but not everything&#8221;</p>
<p>ha!</p>
<p>I think one issue is the difference between points in the paint and points from the perimeter. they all count the same (obviously), but you can maybe make a case that it&#8217;s somewhat analogous to rushing yards/passing yards in football. rushing yards/points in the paint tend to take more of a physical toll on the defense, as well as help to set up the outside shooting/passing game. just something I thought of the other day, I think it&#8217;s reasonably legit.</p>
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		<title>By: Gmal</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/using-sarcasm-heres-some-great-news/#comment-70030</link>
		<dc:creator>Gmal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2007 21:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not an Curry fan, needs improvement on rebounding, shot blocking, passing just to name a few things. Despite all of that if he&#039;s so bad  then why does he constantly draw double and triple teams. 
Some one said that stats are like
a bikini,they reveal a lot but not everything.  problem Curry poses for everyone is that he can back you in or face up and get to the middle of the lane with right or left hand. 
I don&#039;t know what we gotta do to get A. Law but he&#039;s the man! He&#039;s projected at around 16-18pick(hoopshype)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not an Curry fan, needs improvement on rebounding, shot blocking, passing just to name a few things. Despite all of that if he&#8217;s so bad  then why does he constantly draw double and triple teams.<br />
Some one said that stats are like<br />
a bikini,they reveal a lot but not everything.  problem Curry poses for everyone is that he can back you in or face up and get to the middle of the lane with right or left hand.<br />
I don&#8217;t know what we gotta do to get A. Law but he&#8217;s the man! He&#8217;s projected at around 16-18pick(hoopshype)</p>
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		<title>By: Steve D.</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/using-sarcasm-heres-some-great-news/#comment-70025</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2007 20:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[After a little numbers crunching I did the other day, in games in which Balkman plays 20+ minutes he averages just under 8 rpg.  Pretty good for a player his size.  His performance today is nothing new if you watch enough games.  He has a great nack for getting steals and somehow is always in the right place at the right time.  Such as his offensive board and kick out last week at the end of the Wizards game that saved us.  Without David in the line up Balkman provides a great spark off the bench and gives that hussle that is certainly needed.  I really enjoyed seeing him at the top of that 1-2-2 zone we had working for a while in the third quarter.  He ended up with a block or two, a steal, and some fast break buckets.  I hope Isiah can bust that out in the future. Balkman&#039;s length is perfect for that top position]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After a little numbers crunching I did the other day, in games in which Balkman plays 20+ minutes he averages just under 8 rpg.  Pretty good for a player his size.  His performance today is nothing new if you watch enough games.  He has a great nack for getting steals and somehow is always in the right place at the right time.  Such as his offensive board and kick out last week at the end of the Wizards game that saved us.  Without David in the line up Balkman provides a great spark off the bench and gives that hussle that is certainly needed.  I really enjoyed seeing him at the top of that 1-2-2 zone we had working for a while in the third quarter.  He ended up with a block or two, a steal, and some fast break buckets.  I hope Isiah can bust that out in the future. Balkman&#8217;s length is perfect for that top position</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Panorama</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Panorama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2007 19:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[By the way, I know his name is mud here but Jeffries has been as advertised for the last week or two...he&#039;s been putting up some real solid efforts and looking more comfortable in his role.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, I know his name is mud here but Jeffries has been as advertised for the last week or two&#8230;he&#8217;s been putting up some real solid efforts and looking more comfortable in his role.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2007 19:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If we are able to play Francis, Q, Balkman, and Lee, we would probably get an offensive rebound on half of our misses.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we are able to play Francis, Q, Balkman, and Lee, we would probably get an offensive rebound on half of our misses.</p>
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		<title>By: jon abbey</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/using-sarcasm-heres-some-great-news/#comment-70015</link>
		<dc:creator>jon abbey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2007 19:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;the fact remains that a good deal of Isiah?s critics that day argued that, even presuming Balkman WAS good - that Isiah could have gotten him without using a #20 pick.&quot;

quite possibly, but there&#039;s no way to know for sure. also Isiah didn&#039;t know he could sign Jeffries at that point, and there was a real need at SF and no other options, it was a very thin draft. obviously we could use a pass-first PG, but we also had/have three guys ahead of him on the depth chart who aren&#039;t going anywhere. 

but, yeah, the point is that the critics who slammed the pick mostly just had no idea about Balkman. my friend who&#039;s a Florida fan said he beat them almost singlehandedly twice last year. Bill Simmons, who I generally like, said early this year that taking Balkman over Rondo was the biggest mistake Isiah has made in his Knicks tenure. good call, dude.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the fact remains that a good deal of Isiah?s critics that day argued that, even presuming Balkman WAS good &#8211; that Isiah could have gotten him without using a #20 pick.&#8221;</p>
<p>quite possibly, but there&#8217;s no way to know for sure. also Isiah didn&#8217;t know he could sign Jeffries at that point, and there was a real need at SF and no other options, it was a very thin draft. obviously we could use a pass-first PG, but we also had/have three guys ahead of him on the depth chart who aren&#8217;t going anywhere. </p>
<p>but, yeah, the point is that the critics who slammed the pick mostly just had no idea about Balkman. my friend who&#8217;s a Florida fan said he beat them almost singlehandedly twice last year. Bill Simmons, who I generally like, said early this year that taking Balkman over Rondo was the biggest mistake Isiah has made in his Knicks tenure. good call, dude.</p>
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		<title>By: Owen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Owen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2007 19:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brian - It would have been nice to perhaps have picked up Marcus Williams. To be honest I am not sure how good he is.  The best two rookies available after Balkman I think were still available after we got Collins, Millsap of Utah and Smith from Minnesota. Maybe not Smith, but many people think that Millsap has been the most best rookie in the league after Roy. 

Knicks are now 3-0 when Balkman plays thirty minutes, the first two were close contests, including that Utah game, so these were not garbage time minutes. He is a winner I think.   

What a great game, three steals, two blocks, no turnovers. He had a winscore of 20.5/34,  or .606, which is just a phenomenally efficient and  productive game considering he went 1-6 from the line. Those four offensive rebounds were very nice too.  I think pretty much everyone has agreed for a while now he should be getting more minutes, good to see it finally happy. I would like to see a lineup of Marbury/Francis, Q, Balkman, Lee, and Frye/Curry. 

The Knicks managed to do it without Eddy Curry too, who once again went out and commited more turnovers than he collected rebounds. He had a winscore of -4/16. Whoever said they would take curry for bosh, lol...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian &#8211; It would have been nice to perhaps have picked up Marcus Williams. To be honest I am not sure how good he is.  The best two rookies available after Balkman I think were still available after we got Collins, Millsap of Utah and Smith from Minnesota. Maybe not Smith, but many people think that Millsap has been the most best rookie in the league after Roy. </p>
<p>Knicks are now 3-0 when Balkman plays thirty minutes, the first two were close contests, including that Utah game, so these were not garbage time minutes. He is a winner I think.   </p>
<p>What a great game, three steals, two blocks, no turnovers. He had a winscore of 20.5/34,  or .606, which is just a phenomenally efficient and  productive game considering he went 1-6 from the line. Those four offensive rebounds were very nice too.  I think pretty much everyone has agreed for a while now he should be getting more minutes, good to see it finally happy. I would like to see a lineup of Marbury/Francis, Q, Balkman, Lee, and Frye/Curry. </p>
<p>The Knicks managed to do it without Eddy Curry too, who once again went out and commited more turnovers than he collected rebounds. He had a winscore of -4/16. Whoever said they would take curry for bosh, lol&#8230;</p>
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