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		<title>By: Doug Chu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Chu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2010 19:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tonight&#039;s game is CANCELLED. Because of ASBESTOS FALLING FROM THE CEILING. Dag, yo.]]></description>
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		<title>By: Mike Kurylo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Kurylo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2010 18:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Looks quiet, so ...

A. The Stat page is up here:

http://knickerblogger.net/statpage/2011/index.htm

B. Bold text is by me, from TKB

http://www.theknicksblog.com/2010/11/02/wilson-buckets/

&lt;quote&gt;
I know a lot of people cringe when thinking of Harrington, who just lit the Rockets up for 28 and 10 rebounds the other night. I believe Harrington was often hurt as a Knick, and had little trouble with the concept of fire if ready.

Chandler himself takes too many ill advised shots, even for the coach, but he’s in a position where he has to prove that he has a scorer’s mentality. Any scorer will tell you that the true definition of a “scorer’s mentality” is getting the ball in the basket any and every way possible without conscience.  Without Chandler the Knicks are down 12-15 points at the half the other night. &lt;b&gt;Harrington did that too…people like to forget he was playing at an all-star level for much of the 2008-09 season and was the team’s best player&lt;/b&gt;, albeit on a rotten one.

But he is very gifted at putting the ball in the basket, and he’s a rugged defender when he needs to be.
&lt;/quote&gt;

Here is a link to 2009 Knicks page, for those that have forgotten:

KB: http://knickerblogger.net/statpage/2009/Knicks.htm
B-R: http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/NYK/2009.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks quiet, so &#8230;</p>
<p>A. The Stat page is up here:</p>
<p><a href="http://knickerblogger.net/statpage/2011/index.htm" rel="nofollow">http://knickerblogger.net/statpage/2011/index.htm</a></p>
<p>B. Bold text is by me, from TKB</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theknicksblog.com/2010/11/02/wilson-buckets/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theknicksblog.com/2010/11/02/wilson-buckets/</a></p>
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I know a lot of people cringe when thinking of Harrington, who just lit the Rockets up for 28 and 10 rebounds the other night. I believe Harrington was often hurt as a Knick, and had little trouble with the concept of fire if ready.</p>
<p>Chandler himself takes too many ill advised shots, even for the coach, but he’s in a position where he has to prove that he has a scorer’s mentality. Any scorer will tell you that the true definition of a “scorer’s mentality” is getting the ball in the basket any and every way possible without conscience.  Without Chandler the Knicks are down 12-15 points at the half the other night. <b>Harrington did that too…people like to forget he was playing at an all-star level for much of the 2008-09 season and was the team’s best player</b>, albeit on a rotten one.</p>
<p>But he is very gifted at putting the ball in the basket, and he’s a rugged defender when he needs to be.<br />
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<p>Here is a link to 2009 Knicks page, for those that have forgotten:</p>
<p>KB: <a href="http://knickerblogger.net/statpage/2009/Knicks.htm" rel="nofollow">http://knickerblogger.net/statpage/2009/Knicks.htm</a><br />
B-R: <a href="http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/NYK/2009.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/NYK/2009.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ted Nelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2010 17:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great stuff, Brian!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great stuff, Brian!</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2010 16:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All this Amare means love stuff makes me want to sing. With aplogies to Dean Martin, I give you:

&quot;That&#039;s Amare&#039;&quot;

When the ball hits his hands while he&#039;s next to the fans.
That Amare&#039;.
When his dribble drive becomes turnover five.
That&#039;s Amare&#039;.
Fan will boast, &quot;great in the post, great in the post.&quot;
And they&#039;ll cheer for the fella.
Later they bark, &quot;He&#039;s above the arc, he&#039;s above the arc.&quot;
Then scream &quot;What the hella?&quot;

When the record makes you go &quot;Was he worth all this dough?&quot;
That&#039;s Amare&#039;.
When posters like BC, ask &quot;Do you miss David Lee?&quot;
That&#039;s Amare&#039;. (I&#039;m just kidding Brian)
When you say &quot;We won&#039;t get that far, need a 2nd star&quot; to
Campo bello. (Play better)
Suzza me, Mr. Donnie, have you lately,
asked Denver for Carmelo.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All this Amare means love stuff makes me want to sing. With aplogies to Dean Martin, I give you:</p>
<p>&#8220;That&#8217;s Amare&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>When the ball hits his hands while he&#8217;s next to the fans.<br />
That Amare&#8217;.<br />
When his dribble drive becomes turnover five.<br />
That&#8217;s Amare&#8217;.<br />
Fan will boast, &#8220;great in the post, great in the post.&#8221;<br />
And they&#8217;ll cheer for the fella.<br />
Later they bark, &#8220;He&#8217;s above the arc, he&#8217;s above the arc.&#8221;<br />
Then scream &#8220;What the hella?&#8221;</p>
<p>When the record makes you go &#8220;Was he worth all this dough?&#8221;<br />
That&#8217;s Amare&#8217;.<br />
When posters like BC, ask &#8220;Do you miss David Lee?&#8221;<br />
That&#8217;s Amare&#8217;. (I&#8217;m just kidding Brian)<br />
When you say &#8220;We won&#8217;t get that far, need a 2nd star&#8221; to<br />
Campo bello. (Play better)<br />
Suzza me, Mr. Donnie, have you lately,<br />
asked Denver for Carmelo.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2010 15:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So when Kevin Love is covered, does he become Kevin Amare?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So when Kevin Love is covered, does he become Kevin Amare?</p>
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		<title>By: SeeWhyDee77</title>
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		<dc:creator>SeeWhyDee77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2010 15:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[lol 4th quarter boobies....personally, I like them in the 1st quarter, 2nd quarter, and 3rd quarter also. But I guess crunch time boobies are great as well..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol 4th quarter boobies&#8230;.personally, I like them in the 1st quarter, 2nd quarter, and 3rd quarter also. But I guess crunch time boobies are great as well..</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2010 15:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellent work.  I love reading these.

If memory serves it was Don Nelson who came to New York and tried to insert Mason as the center of the offense--no really he did--by making Mason the point forward. It was part of Nelson&#039;s plan to diminish Ewing and go after Shaq O&#039;Neal.  Ewing did not care for this so he lashed back at both Nelson and Mason.  I think he may have said something about the team needing a forward with better range on his jumper. This was a direct shot at Mason who wasnt known for his range.  Anyway, Ewing leads the mutiny, Nelson is fired. Van Gundy takes over. Thanks to Mason--in a way--Van Gundy gets his shot.

Often when a player as well loved as Mason is traded, the fan base does not respond to the player brought in for him.  For example I hated the Jackson for Smith trade.  I can&#039;t think of anyone (that we could have got for Mason) other than Larry Johnson who could have come in here and been just as well loved--if not more so.  Mason was the gift that kept on giving, now if only Charlie Ward could have moved with him...oh well.

My favorite memory of Mason was when he teamed with Oakley, Ewing and Starks in those great fourth quarter shut downs on defense.  It was great, teams (other than the Bulls) would end up scoring between 9-15 points in the fourth.  Mason almost always got the toughest defensive assignment.  The guy could pass, rebound, play shut down defense.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent work.  I love reading these.</p>
<p>If memory serves it was Don Nelson who came to New York and tried to insert Mason as the center of the offense&#8211;no really he did&#8211;by making Mason the point forward. It was part of Nelson&#8217;s plan to diminish Ewing and go after Shaq O&#8217;Neal.  Ewing did not care for this so he lashed back at both Nelson and Mason.  I think he may have said something about the team needing a forward with better range on his jumper. This was a direct shot at Mason who wasnt known for his range.  Anyway, Ewing leads the mutiny, Nelson is fired. Van Gundy takes over. Thanks to Mason&#8211;in a way&#8211;Van Gundy gets his shot.</p>
<p>Often when a player as well loved as Mason is traded, the fan base does not respond to the player brought in for him.  For example I hated the Jackson for Smith trade.  I can&#8217;t think of anyone (that we could have got for Mason) other than Larry Johnson who could have come in here and been just as well loved&#8211;if not more so.  Mason was the gift that kept on giving, now if only Charlie Ward could have moved with him&#8230;oh well.</p>
<p>My favorite memory of Mason was when he teamed with Oakley, Ewing and Starks in those great fourth quarter shut downs on defense.  It was great, teams (other than the Bulls) would end up scoring between 9-15 points in the fourth.  Mason almost always got the toughest defensive assignment.  The guy could pass, rebound, play shut down defense.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2010 14:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mike ... like the &quot;4th quarter boobies&quot;  and I&#039;m sure you saw they name checked you.

Brian nice story.  I like the interpretation of how Mason came to be that odd mix of defender/rebounder/enforcer and guy that could not only bring the ball up court even against a press but that a coach would try to run the offense thru (until Ewing got his way).  Keep &#039;em coming]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike &#8230; like the &#8220;4th quarter boobies&#8221;  and I&#8217;m sure you saw they name checked you.</p>
<p>Brian nice story.  I like the interpretation of how Mason came to be that odd mix of defender/rebounder/enforcer and guy that could not only bring the ball up court even against a press but that a coach would try to run the offense thru (until Ewing got his way).  Keep &#8216;em coming</p>
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		<title>By: SeeWhyDee77</title>
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		<dc:creator>SeeWhyDee77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2010 14:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Awesome...I miss Mase. As divisive as he might have been, dude was a warrior in his Knick days. The frontline of Ew, Oak, and Mase..along with the backcourt tandem of Harper and Starks embodied what it meant to be a Knick. I have a good friend who is a Bulls fan and he said to me, &quot;with the way yal been playin these past few years, I know u miss those NY mugging days&quot;, lol. Almost accurate. I call it tough, inner city hoops with enough finesse to put up points. While Mase may have not been a shooter, I have no doubt that he would thrive under Mike D. Imagine how today&#039;s team would look with a guy like Mase in the starting lineup. He&#039;d problee get called for ALOT of fouls with the way the game is played today, but just imagine. Having that enforcer who could handle the ball, post, pass, rebound, defend and play physical ball. NOBODY f&#039;d with Mase in his heyday!! Now the new rules kinda has players scared to get physical...kinda makes me wonder what the hell the NBA still has the painted area for? I&#039;m not tryina go all nostalgia, but i&#039;m just sayin the scales have tipped a little 2 far towards the finesse side. Detractors of physical ball might say it&#039;s an ugly product to sell. But how can you NOT sell a product with the likes of Kobe, Bron, Wade, Durant, Howard, Dirk, Melo, Stat, Nash, CP3, Deron Williams, Rondo, KG, Duncan, Shaq, Roy, Pau Gasol, Pierce, Vince Carter, the triumvirate of Lee-Curry-Ellis (eventually), and even guys like Blake Griffin and John Wall? Well in KG, Shaq, Duncan and Vince Carter&#039;s case-obviously when they were younger and healthier. All those guys are to me the well deserved class of the league. It&#039;s so many great players in the NBA today, u can still sell the product with a little more physicality incorporated in the game. Just my honest opinion...
Great work BC!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome&#8230;I miss Mase. As divisive as he might have been, dude was a warrior in his Knick days. The frontline of Ew, Oak, and Mase..along with the backcourt tandem of Harper and Starks embodied what it meant to be a Knick. I have a good friend who is a Bulls fan and he said to me, &#8220;with the way yal been playin these past few years, I know u miss those NY mugging days&#8221;, lol. Almost accurate. I call it tough, inner city hoops with enough finesse to put up points. While Mase may have not been a shooter, I have no doubt that he would thrive under Mike D. Imagine how today&#8217;s team would look with a guy like Mase in the starting lineup. He&#8217;d problee get called for ALOT of fouls with the way the game is played today, but just imagine. Having that enforcer who could handle the ball, post, pass, rebound, defend and play physical ball. NOBODY f&#8217;d with Mase in his heyday!! Now the new rules kinda has players scared to get physical&#8230;kinda makes me wonder what the hell the NBA still has the painted area for? I&#8217;m not tryina go all nostalgia, but i&#8217;m just sayin the scales have tipped a little 2 far towards the finesse side. Detractors of physical ball might say it&#8217;s an ugly product to sell. But how can you NOT sell a product with the likes of Kobe, Bron, Wade, Durant, Howard, Dirk, Melo, Stat, Nash, CP3, Deron Williams, Rondo, KG, Duncan, Shaq, Roy, Pau Gasol, Pierce, Vince Carter, the triumvirate of Lee-Curry-Ellis (eventually), and even guys like Blake Griffin and John Wall? Well in KG, Shaq, Duncan and Vince Carter&#8217;s case-obviously when they were younger and healthier. All those guys are to me the well deserved class of the league. It&#8217;s so many great players in the NBA today, u can still sell the product with a little more physicality incorporated in the game. Just my honest opinion&#8230;<br />
Great work BC!!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Kurylo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Kurylo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2010 13:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Speaking of Italian job, I came across this today:

http://playitusa.wordpress.com/2010/11/02/ecco-i-nuovi-knicks/

Which has an interesting translation here: http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&amp;prev=_t&amp;hl=en&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;layout=2&amp;eotf=1&amp;sl=auto&amp;tl=en&amp;u=http%3A%2F%2Fplayitusa.wordpress.com%2F2010%2F11%2F02%2Fecco-i-nuovi-knicks%2F&amp;act=url

(I love how the second paragraph ends, and how it occasionally translates &quot;Amare&quot; into &quot;Love&quot;.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of Italian job, I came across this today:</p>
<p><a href="http://playitusa.wordpress.com/2010/11/02/ecco-i-nuovi-knicks/" rel="nofollow">http://playitusa.wordpress.com/2010/11/02/ecco-i-nuovi-knicks/</a></p>
<p>Which has an interesting translation here: <a href="http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&#038;prev=_t&#038;hl=en&#038;ie=UTF-8&#038;layout=2&#038;eotf=1&#038;sl=auto&#038;tl=en&#038;u=http%3A%2F%2Fplayitusa.wordpress.com%2F2010%2F11%2F02%2Fecco-i-nuovi-knicks%2F&#038;act=url" rel="nofollow">http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&#038;prev=_t&#038;hl=en&#038;ie=UTF-8&#038;layout=2&#038;eotf=1&#038;sl=auto&#038;tl=en&#038;u=http%3A%2F%2Fplayitusa.wordpress.com%2F2010%2F11%2F02%2Fecco-i-nuovi-knicks%2F&#038;act=url</a></p>
<p>(I love how the second paragraph ends, and how it occasionally translates &#8220;Amare&#8221; into &#8220;Love&#8221;.)</p>
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