as to the original topic: the combined genius of Bianchi & Pitino got rid of Bernard King for Sidney Green & Kenny Walker. the seeds of mismanagement & poor decision-making were sown early & deep in the Ewing era. Pitino’s mishandling of King foretells the train-wreck to come in Boston.

Doug: Doesn’t Dalembert have a reputation as a malcontent? I wonder how much of that is just sportswriter narrative.Also, I wonder how much D’Antoni would play him, given that he’s an offensive zero.   

Doug,

I think most players are malcontents when they are not given playing time, especially when they think they deserve it, were told one thing and then another thing is being done (like being told you were acquired to use your skills to help your new team win), or they think the guy getting playing time ahead of them is not better than them. I’m waiting to hear that Delambert is an obsessive gambler that will punch somebody in the mouth or pull a gun on them if they fail to pay up their gambling debts before I shy away :)

And I believe Mike D will play offensive zeros (Turiaf, Jeffries) if they play within themselves, know their roles and don’t get in the way of the offense.

rama: But more importantly, Curry is our one remaining expiring contract, so waiting to see what’s available for him until the last moment seems like a good idea.If we got rid of him even straight up for Dalembert, and it turned out Denver would accept Curry + AR for Melo, we might look at it as a huge mistake, whether you’re a fan of Melo or not.  

rama,

Dalembert is an expiring contract as well. Assuming that Denver wanted Curry + AR for Melo like you hypothesized, then I highly doubt that Denver would fuss about getting Dalembert + AR instead.

Right now Curry = TMac of last season, their value is derived only from their large expiring contracts. Nobody would acquire Curry thinking “this guy could become a major contributor for me”, unless your Khan I guess. So giving them Dalembert instead of Curry is a moot point. Actually, Dalembert has more value than Curry because he is in game shape and can actually play if you needed him to. The only additional value Curry has is that we have already paid half of his contract, so there is some $ savings for the other team.

And I agree with you on McGee, but he would cost us somebody good like you said. On the contrary, we could get Dalembert for somebody who is already crappy (Curry) and another equally useless player with an expiring contract (Walker, Mason) and/or a draft pick. Even if Mike D doesn’t play him, he is a better expiring contract to use in trades than Curry.

Robert Silverman: McGee would be a great pickup, but (I know I’m in the majority here) I think Anthony Randolph can be just as good or better. He just needs the pt  

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Doug: Doesn’t Dalembert have a reputation as a malcontent? I wonder how much of that is just sportswriter narrative.Also, I wonder how much D’Antoni would play him, given that he’s an offensive zero. D’Antoni has shown that he’ll trade size and defense for speed and shooting every time. It almost seems like we could get similar results if D’Antoni ran out AR every night with instructions to only play defense: similar rebounding and blocks, less interior defense.  

Robert Silverman: McGee would be a great pickup, but (I know I’m in the majority here) I think Anthony Randolph can be just as good or better. He just needs the pt  

cgreene: @14 Seems like the the consensus here doesn’t even want to trade Chandler for Melo.Think it’s an uphill battle to say Chandler for JaVale McGee.No?Maybe people here think more highly of McGee than I think?  

Robert Silverman: Great post, Brian!I’m still confused as to how a person named “Sidney Green” was a power forward in the NBA and not an accountant in Teaneck or Moe Green’s consigliere/lesser-known younger brother.  

Is it a rule players can’t be traded again for 30 days? I know that’s true of draft pick signings, and players claimed off waivers. But I don’t think there is a 30 day restriction period for newly acquired players via trade. (There is that rule about not packaging newly acquired players in multi-player trades, but I think that is a technicality that is commonly avoided by splitting up trades when submitting them to the commish).

But even if there is a 30 day restriction period, the deadline to acquire Dalembert and still trade him on February 24th would not come until January 24th, almost 3 weeks away, no?

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&p1=anthoca01&y1=2011&p2=chandwi01&y2=2011

The only two categories that Melo bests Wilson in is offensive rebounding – but he only has 8 more boards total than Wilson this year – and assists – roughly 20 more than Wilson.
-Melo has 2 times as many turnovers as Wilson
-Melo gives up .060TS% to Wilson (huge)
-the 3pt shooting is not even close – over .120 %pts higher for Wilson
-over 100 pt difference in eFG in Wilson’s favor (huge)
-almost 3 times the amount of blocks for Wilson over Melo

I realize a lot of this is Melo being the primary scorer and not having Amare to deflect heat, but in Wilson’s position, would he be that much better? He can’t hit the three. Sure we would have a bit more rebounding, but the defense would be about the same. And you can’t just assume that Melo would just become more efficient.
Considering the money, it just doesn’t make sense to trade Chandler for Melo now.

Oh and Chandler is three years younger than Melo.