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Saturday, November 1, 2014

Top 25 Favorite Knicks of the Modern Era: #25-21

We asked you folks to vote and you did! Now let us find out who you picked as your top 25 favorite Knicks of the Modern Era (1979-present, also known as the “Three-Point Era,” as that is when the three-pointer was adopted by the NBA)! On the first day, we’ll start with a whopping five Knicks, then it will be two Knicks every weekday until your favorite Knick is revealed!

Enjoy!

NOTE: A quick word about Walt Frazier and Earl Monroe. A number of you voted for Frazier, but do note that he never played for the Knicks during the Three-Point Era. However, interestingly enough, Monroe did play one year in the Modern Era, so he would have been eligible, but obviously not many people realized that, so Monroe did not get a lot of support. So neither player is on this list. I just figured I’d let you know now so you wouldn’t be curious later.

25. Doc Rivers

Glenn “Doc” Rivers was drafted in the second round by the Atlanta Hawks in 1983. He went on to be their main point guard for most of the next seven seasons, teaming up with Dominique Wilkins in a potent offense. The Hawks traded him to the Los Angeles Clippers in 1991, where he was their starting point guard for a season. The Clippers then traded him to the Knicks the following season. Rivers was the Knicks starting point guard when they won 60 games in 1992-93! Rivers mostly split time with Greg Anthony at the point, though. It was not like he was a dominant starter. So when he had trouble with injuries the next season, he was replaced as the starter by the newly-acquired Derek Harper. The next season, with Harper and Anthony (and newly drafted Charlie Ward), there was no more room for Rivers, so the Knicks dealt him to the Spurs, where he finished out his playing career. Rivers eventually became a coach, winning the Coach of the Year in 2000 with the Orlando Magic and winning an NBA Title with the Boston Celtics in 2008.

In his short time with the Knicks, Doc Rivers produced 8.0 Win Shares. For more of his stats, check out his profile at Basketball Reference!

24. Jamal Crawford

Jamal Crawford was drafted by the Cleveland Cavaliers in the first round of the 2000 NBA Draft and quickly dealt to the Chicago Bulls. He played for the Bulls for four seasons before being traded to the Knicks. He played for the Knicks for a little over four seasons. In every year with the Knicks, he was either their leading or second-leading scorer, capped off by leading the Knicks in scoring in 2007-08 with over 20 points a game. Crawford scored a career-high 52 points in a game for the Knicks in 2007. And who could forget the dramatic game-winner he made against Denver where, in a tie game, he lost the ball, stole it back and then hit a running three-pointer with seconds left in the game! At the beginning of the 2008-09 season, Crawford was traded to the Golden State Warriors for Al Harrington. Crawford was later traded to the Atlanta Hawks where he revitalized his career, winning the NBA’s Sixth-Man of the Year Award for the 2009-10 season.

In his four-plus years with the Knicks, Jamal Crawford produced 16.9 Win Shares. For more of his stats, check out his profile at Basketball Reference!

23. Rod Strickland

Rod Strickland’s Knick career was an odd one. The point guard was drafted with the #19 overall pick in the first round of the 1988 NBA Draft. That’s not weird, the weird thing is that the Knicks had used a first round pick on point guard Mark Jackson the previous season! Jackson and Strickland were very different types of player, and them sharing the point guard role was kind of odd, but Strickland was so exciting as a player that most Knick fans did not care, as he was a dynamic offensive player. However, after just a season and a half, the Knicks realized the combo just wasn’t going to work, so they traded Strickland for veteran point guard Maurice Cheeks (oddly enough, they traded Mark Jackson too, pretty soon, so maybe they should have just kept Strickland if they were going to dump Jackson). Strickland went on to have a strong (and long) NBA career, highlighted by making the All-NBA second team in 1997-98 for the Washington Bullets (they were the Bullets then, right?).

In his year and a half with the Knicks, Rod Strickland produced 3.7 Win Shares. For more of his stats, check out his profile at Basketball Reference!

22. Bill Cartwright

Bill Cartwright was a coup for the Knicks, in that they traded Bob McAdoo for the Boston Celtics’ first round pick (plus other picks) which became the third overall pick in the 1979 NBA Draft. They used this pick on Bill Cartwright, who would help man the middle for the Knicks for the next eight seasons!! Cartwright was a dominant young player (as dominant as he was quiet) and he averaged over 20 points a game in each of his first two seasons in the NBA! He also made his first (and only) All-Star Game appearance in his rookie season. Cartwright suffered a number of injuries to his left foot (it was fractured four separate times!), leading to him missing the 1984-85 season (and most of the 1985-86 season) entirely! After the Knicks awful 1984-85 season without him, they won the first NBA lottery and drafted center Patrick Ewing with the #1 pick. That, naturally, made Ewing the new dominant center for the Knicks. The team tried to play the two together (as a prototypical “Twin Towers” lineup), but it did not work out so well, so the Knicks dealt Cartwright to the Chicago Bulls after the 1987-88 season for power forward Charles Oakley. The move worked out well for both teams, as Cartwright went on to be the starting center for three straight Bulls championship teams. After a season in Seattle, Cartwright retired in 1995.

In his eight seasons with the Knicks, Bill Cartwright produced 56.8 Win Shares (only two Knicks have produced more during the Modern Era). For more of his stats, check out his profile at Basketball Reference!

21. Gerald Wilkins

Gerald Wilkins was drafted with a pick the Knicks acquired as compensation for the Boston Celtics signing Knick guard Sly Williams. A great defensive player, Wilkins was a key member of the Knicks for most of his seven seasons with the team from 1985-86 through 1991-92. Wilkins is the younger brother of Atlanta Hawks great Dominique Wilkins and he also participated in the NBA Slam Dunk Contest twice (he did not do so well). Wilkins was particularly important to the Knicks as someone who could guard Michael Jordan. Wilkins actually was once named NBA Player of the Week in 1991!! However, by the end of his time with the Knicks, Wilkins began to lose time at the 2 to John Starks, so after the 1991-92 season he signed with the Cleveland Cavaliers as a free agent. He finished his career with the Orlando Magic, actually getting to play with his brother in his last season! His son, Damian, currently plays for the Atlanta Hawks.

In his seven seasons with the Knicks, Gerald Wilkins produced 23.2 Win Shares. For more of his stats, check out his profile at Basketball Reference!

Tune in tomorrow for #20-19!

31 comments on “Top 25 Favorite Knicks of the Modern Era: #25-21

  1. Spree8nyk8

    Say what you want about Jamal but he was a fun player to watch, and his performance against Miami was one of the greatest shooting performances of all time. 16 consecutive shots and 52 points. Most of them being extremely difficult shots or long distance 3’s including a 4 point play.

  2. Sandy

    jamal crawford was an awful player to watch. terrible that he made this list. hopefully the top 20 are better!

  3. Marc R

    Well, it appears from the low placement of Gerald and some other old timers that the median age on this blog is even younger than I thought!

  4. BigBlueAL

    Marc R: Well, it appears from the low placement of Gerald and some other old timers that the median age on this blog is even younger than I thought!  

    Im surprised Doc and Strickland made the list if only because they barely played with the Knicks.

  5. SlumberKnick

    I hope Herb Williams makes the list – us Knicks fans seem to never give him his due respect – he’s been around the org forever…though he wasn’t a Knick during his prime – I would still say he contributed more to the org than some ppl who are already on this list

  6. tastycakes

    Yikes indeed.

    Crawford is one of my least favorite Knicks ever. Well, I guess I’d put him ahead of Eddy Snaxxx, “Star”bury, Othella Harrington / Clarence Weatherspoon (was there any evidence that they were, in fact, different players?), The Undead Remains of Penny Hardaway, Fraggle Harrington, Chris Duhon, Stevie “Franchise”, Keith Van Horn, and Howard Eisley. OK, he cracks my Bottom 10! I don’t like chuckers much… but it’s more that he was just so unreliable. Hard to love most of the guys from the Lost Decade…

    I’ve always liked Doc, and have almost zero memory of the other 3 playing.

  7. Spree8nyk8

    Johnny has passed away everyone. Thank you for your support. It has meant a lot.

    RIP Johnny, you’ll be missed….

  8. hoolahoop

    Spree8nyk8: Johnny has passed away everyone.Thank you for your support.It has meant a lot.RIP Johnny, you’ll be missed….  

    Was he the little boy that lived with you?
    sorry to hear of the somber news. Death is a conundrum, so sad, and the utmost reminder of how lucky we are.

  9. bockadoo

    So sorry about Johnny, Spree. I will say a prayer for him.
    @2 – I’ll bet tickets to the finals at MSG next year that Eddie Lee didn’t make the cut.

  10. Z

    I think this count-down is going to illustrate just how few good players the Knicks have had pass through their system over the past 30 years… :(

  11. Z-man

    Sorry, Spree, it hit home for me because my my 11 y-o son is named Johnny and he’s my knicks-watching buddy…

  12. Z-man

    Cartwright should be further up the list, I watched/was at many of those games back then and he was a very good player and a class act. I was at a game where Barkley dunked on Mr. Bill and rubbed it in a bit. Later in the game, Bill took it right at Sir Charles and threw down a ferocious jam in his face and knocked Barkley unconscious. The crowd was in an absolute frenzy!

    I guess his success with the nemesis Bulls is what knocked him down the list.

  13. Spree8nyk8

    hoolahoop:
    Was he the little boy that lived with you?
    sorry to hear of the somber news. Death is a conundrum, so sad, and the utmost reminder of how lucky we are.  

    Yeah, he was adopted by my mom’s best friend who lives here. Difficult week but I’m glad he doesn’t have to suffer.

    Thanks everyone for taking time to keep him in your thoughts.

  14. BigBlueAL

    Z: I think this count-down is going to illustrate just how few good players the Knicks have had pass through their system over the past 30 years… :(  

    There could still be some room for your boy Anthony Bonner to make the list!! lol

  15. Z

    Marc R: Well, it appears from the low placement of Gerald and some other old timers that the median age on this blog is even younger than I thought!  

    Yeah. Bet you Amar’e and Felton are #3 and #5 respectively :)

    (would it be uncouth to try to guess the final rankings, seeing as we cast ballots? If not, I’ll set the over-under for Starks at 9.5)

  16. Z

    BigBlueAL:
    There could still be some room for your boy Anthony Bonner to make the list!!lol  

    Hahaha. I actually felt guilty leaving him off my top ten. (Expected my avatar to ask out of our contract :)

  17. cgreene

    I am a little surprised that Eric Anderson, Fred Cofield and Brian Quinet made it so far up. Didn’t have any of them ranked higher than 25.

  18. patrick

    long time lurker, first time poster. great blog by the way…

    really just signing in to offer my condolences to you spree. so sorry to read that this morning. i hope that in time your family will be able to come to terms with such a senseless tragedy.

  19. D-Mar Fresh

    I really Hope my boys Hubert Davis, Charlie Ward and Allen Houston make it to the top of the list by oakley, starks, and ewing.

  20. Adam L

    Quick question. To vote for this didn’t we only get to submit our top 10 in the modern era? As far as I remember that’s how it worked. So did did you guys, the writers, add names to fill it out to 25, or were there genuinely 25 different names submitted by people. I just can’t imagine that any Knicks fan, who only had 10 players to name, would somehow include Doc Rivers or Gerald Wilkins in there.

  21. Brian Cronin

    or were there genuinely 25 different names submitted by people.

    This one.

    Heck, 35 Knicks who didn’t make the list got votes, so a lot of Knicks received votes.

  22. Marc R

    Heck, 35 Knicks who didn’t make the list got votes, so a lot of Knicks received votes.

    Could you list the “also received votes” Knicks before going further?

  23. Brian Cronin

    Could you list the “also received votes” Knicks before going further?

    If I did that, you’d know who would be on the list!

  24. alknowles

    Damn it, I knew that I forgot to do something.

    Hope that you have the one-point wonders list that you put up before you show the top vote getters, like as you did on your previous lists. Definitely want to see if anyone voted for the likes of John Wallace, Eric Anderson, Dontae’ Jones, Luc Longely…

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