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		<title>By: TDM</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/tonights-4-factors-vs-uth-112607/#comment-184231</link>
		<dc:creator>TDM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 02:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;he has an almost inconceivably slow reaction time&quot;

Ditto to that.  Curry looks like a zombie sitting under the basket.  The ball gets passed in to him, and he looks at it like he&#039;s not quite sure what is in his hands.  Before he figures it out, he&#039;s double-teamed and left with contested shots or has to pass the ball out. 

In contrast, every time Garnett would get the ball down low, he instinctively pivots and goes straight to the hoop.  

Its straight up pathetic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;he has an almost inconceivably slow reaction time&#8221;</p>
<p>Ditto to that.  Curry looks like a zombie sitting under the basket.  The ball gets passed in to him, and he looks at it like he&#8217;s not quite sure what is in his hands.  Before he figures it out, he&#8217;s double-teamed and left with contested shots or has to pass the ball out. </p>
<p>In contrast, every time Garnett would get the ball down low, he instinctively pivots and goes straight to the hoop.  </p>
<p>Its straight up pathetic.</p>
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		<title>By: Renaldo Balkman's Agent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Renaldo Balkman's Agent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 03:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Smush is ?a turnover waiting to happen?? -LB

Smush also got arrested for choking a female valet parker over a $12 bill.

Sounds like he could be the next Dolan Delinquent on the Knick block. 

He&#039;d be a perfect fit, except for the fact that he only makes $2 million a year more than the valet-in-question instead of the customary $13 million more.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smush is ?a turnover waiting to happen?? -LB</p>
<p>Smush also got arrested for choking a female valet parker over a $12 bill.</p>
<p>Sounds like he could be the next Dolan Delinquent on the Knick block. </p>
<p>He&#8217;d be a perfect fit, except for the fact that he only makes $2 million a year more than the valet-in-question instead of the customary $13 million more.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cronin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Cronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 01:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s funny how, ever so slowly, my opinions of those two players have become totally polarized.

I love Balkman and hate Collins.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s funny how, ever so slowly, my opinions of those two players have become totally polarized.</p>
<p>I love Balkman and hate Collins.</p>
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		<title>By: jon abbey</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/tonights-4-factors-vs-uth-112607/#comment-183101</link>
		<dc:creator>jon abbey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 00:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[you don&#039;t need any stats to know that Balkman needs to play more and Mardy needs to play almost never. you just need two eyes and a brain.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you don&#8217;t need any stats to know that Balkman needs to play more and Mardy needs to play almost never. you just need two eyes and a brain.</p>
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		<title>By: TomV</title>
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		<dc:creator>TomV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 23:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The type of stat that goes &quot;the team has X record when condition C holds, and Y record when C does not hold&quot; are kind of coarse-grained version of +/-. In +/-, the dependent variable is team points (rather than wins) and the condition C is always a player&#039;s presence on the court (instead of, say, a player playing at least 15 minutes or whatever). 

Both types of stats suffer from the same problem, which is that we cannot say to what extent the dependent variable is causally dependent on the condition C. Maybe Balkman helps the Knicks +/- and win% with his presence on the court. Maybe Balkman is typically on the court more in situations where the Knicks&#039; +/- and win% is likely to be greater than usual. Without being able to discern the direction of the effect, the stat is pretty useless.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The type of stat that goes &#8220;the team has X record when condition C holds, and Y record when C does not hold&#8221; are kind of coarse-grained version of +/-. In +/-, the dependent variable is team points (rather than wins) and the condition C is always a player&#8217;s presence on the court (instead of, say, a player playing at least 15 minutes or whatever). </p>
<p>Both types of stats suffer from the same problem, which is that we cannot say to what extent the dependent variable is causally dependent on the condition C. Maybe Balkman helps the Knicks +/- and win% with his presence on the court. Maybe Balkman is typically on the court more in situations where the Knicks&#8217; +/- and win% is likely to be greater than usual. Without being able to discern the direction of the effect, the stat is pretty useless.</p>
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		<title>By: T-Mart</title>
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		<dc:creator>T-Mart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 22:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#039;Fire Isiah&#039; Chant Breaks Out During Knicks&#039; Front-Office Meeting



Jesus, this has to be a new low point, the main front page article of theonion is now making fun of the Knicks:


http://www.theonion.com/content/news/fire_isiah_chant_breaks_out_during

My two personal favorite segments:

Even when the chants subsided, Dolan said, Thomas still experienced other forms of hostility from all 15 board members in attendance, including multiple rounds of sarcastic clapping when Thomas talked optimistically about his team&#039;s four wins, several thrown C-cell batteries that narrowly missed Thomas&#039; head, and intermittent shouts of &quot;You suck,&quot; &quot;My 5-year-old daughter could do a better coaching job,&quot; and &quot;Die.&quot;

In addition, when Thomas defended his coaching strategy and failed to offer any suggestions as to how he could immediately make the Knicks a better basketball team, frustrated board members began a 30-second-long &quot;asshole&quot; chant.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Fire Isiah&#8217; Chant Breaks Out During Knicks&#8217; Front-Office Meeting</p>
<p>Jesus, this has to be a new low point, the main front page article of theonion is now making fun of the Knicks:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theonion.com/content/news/fire_isiah_chant_breaks_out_during" rel="nofollow">http://www.theonion.com/content/news/fire_isiah_chant_breaks_out_during</a></p>
<p>My two personal favorite segments:</p>
<p>Even when the chants subsided, Dolan said, Thomas still experienced other forms of hostility from all 15 board members in attendance, including multiple rounds of sarcastic clapping when Thomas talked optimistically about his team&#8217;s four wins, several thrown C-cell batteries that narrowly missed Thomas&#8217; head, and intermittent shouts of &#8220;You suck,&#8221; &#8220;My 5-year-old daughter could do a better coaching job,&#8221; and &#8220;Die.&#8221;</p>
<p>In addition, when Thomas defended his coaching strategy and failed to offer any suggestions as to how he could immediately make the Knicks a better basketball team, frustrated board members began a 30-second-long &#8220;asshole&#8221; chant.</p>
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		<title>By: Z</title>
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		<dc:creator>Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 22:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Smush is &quot;a turnover waiting to happen...&quot; -LB]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smush is &#8220;a turnover waiting to happen&#8230;&#8221; -LB</p>
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		<title>By: caleb</title>
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		<dc:creator>caleb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[p.s. I like reading Charley Rosen. He&#039;s always over the top, but I like that he&#039;s willing to be critical of big-time players, actually noting strengths and vulnerabilities. Most NBA scouts are complete boot-lickers, in public. With Rosen you get more of the sense that this is what they say behind closed doors. (like when a mic picked up Larry Brown talking about Smush Parker before the game, &quot;just breath on him and he&#039;ll turn it over,&quot; something like that. 

True nuff, Charley exaggerates a lot - if you took his scouting reports literally, no NBA team could beat the local Sisters of Mercy squad.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>p.s. I like reading Charley Rosen. He&#8217;s always over the top, but I like that he&#8217;s willing to be critical of big-time players, actually noting strengths and vulnerabilities. Most NBA scouts are complete boot-lickers, in public. With Rosen you get more of the sense that this is what they say behind closed doors. (like when a mic picked up Larry Brown talking about Smush Parker before the game, &#8220;just breath on him and he&#8217;ll turn it over,&#8221; something like that. </p>
<p>True nuff, Charley exaggerates a lot &#8211; if you took his scouting reports literally, no NBA team could beat the local Sisters of Mercy squad.</p>
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		<title>By: caleb</title>
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		<dc:creator>caleb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The SI stat is basically a throwaway... but I don&#039;t think Balkman&#039;s impact is a mirage. (I&#039;d say the same about your Collins stat) 

Renaldo has by far the best +/- numbers on the team (except Morris and Chandler, who have played fewer than 20 minutes apiece, all season). I know that raw +/- has major limitations... but on the extreme ends, it says a lot. In this case, that the Knicks are about 15 points better, per 100 posessions, when he&#039;s on the floor. 

A few other things that jumped out..  
- Lee is actually at -6.5 per 100
- Randolph is +3.7
- Marbury is +6.5 - Knicks are nearly 4 points better on defense, but a whopping 10 points worse on offense - mainly because when he&#039;s out, Mardy Collins comes in. 
- Curry is -3.1, Crawford -2.5, Jeffries -3.3, Robinson -1.8, Jones -3.8, Q +2.1, Mardy -22.7. 

Those are raw #s, over just 11 games, so take them with a large grain of salt. 

http://www.82games.com/0708/0708NYK.HTM]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The SI stat is basically a throwaway&#8230; but I don&#8217;t think Balkman&#8217;s impact is a mirage. (I&#8217;d say the same about your Collins stat) </p>
<p>Renaldo has by far the best +/- numbers on the team (except Morris and Chandler, who have played fewer than 20 minutes apiece, all season). I know that raw +/- has major limitations&#8230; but on the extreme ends, it says a lot. In this case, that the Knicks are about 15 points better, per 100 posessions, when he&#8217;s on the floor. </p>
<p>A few other things that jumped out..<br />
- Lee is actually at -6.5 per 100<br />
- Randolph is +3.7<br />
- Marbury is +6.5 &#8211; Knicks are nearly 4 points better on defense, but a whopping 10 points worse on offense &#8211; mainly because when he&#8217;s out, Mardy Collins comes in.<br />
- Curry is -3.1, Crawford -2.5, Jeffries -3.3, Robinson -1.8, Jones -3.8, Q +2.1, Mardy -22.7. </p>
<p>Those are raw #s, over just 11 games, so take them with a large grain of salt. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.82games.com/0708/0708NYK.HTM" rel="nofollow">http://www.82games.com/0708/0708NYK.HTM</a></p>
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		<title>By: jon abbey</title>
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		<dc:creator>jon abbey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[some of those are relevant, others not. pretty clearly Mardy should never play except in extreme emergencies, and Balkman should play more.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>some of those are relevant, others not. pretty clearly Mardy should never play except in extreme emergencies, and Balkman should play more.</p>
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