FIRE ISIAH! DUMP DOLAN PROTEST & WALKOUT
CLOTHING DRIVE TO BENEFIT NYC?S HOMELESS SHELTERS

SUNDAY DECEMBER 30, 2007 AT 11:00 am
IN FRONT OF MADISON SQUARE GARDEN

PROTEST = Stand with us outside the Garden, Be Heard.
WALKOUT = We are encouraging all fans that attend the
game against the Bulls to make a statement by leaving
the Garden at the end of the 3rd quarter and join us
in our protest.
BENEFIT = Donate a clothing item to NYC?s homeless
shelters for those less fortunate.

We?re not pompous or foolish to believe this protest
will be the fix to end all problems with our NY
Knicks. As die-hard fans that have suffered tremendous
anguish watching this ownership and management
dismantle and ruin this proud franchise and everything
it stands for, our Knicks. The laughing stock of the
NBA. WE MUST BE HEARD!

Please show your support Sunday, December 30, 2007 in
front of MSG ?The Worlds Most Famous Arena? with the
?Most Pathetic Basketball Organization!?

I can be reached via email at joeyvworks@yahoo.com.

The only exception is an even swap for someone else’s problem, like Wallace or Larry Hughes.

So bad on you, Nate!!

I agree that much of the current Laker core could be in NY today; however, you overlook the fact that theLaker core plays with the best player in the NBA and arguably the best coach. I dont think you get the same production from Bynum and Ariza playing with Marbury as you do when they play with Kobe.
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As far as trade senarios go…

I would send Curry back to Chicago with Malik Rose. I would take back Ben Wallace but Chicago will need to send back two picks for us to eat that contract. I would take Thomas and a future first rounder. Despite how I have basehed Wallace in the past, I don’t think he is washed up. I think he was fed up with Napoleon Skiles. Wallace would improve the interior D. His rebounding should improve significantly because rebounding is as much about skill as it is desire. I think Wallace lost the desire under Napoleon. With Curry gone Randolph could go back to his strenght, post and lane drives.

I am wondering if the Grizz would want to move Gasol. He sems to be out of favor with the new coach. Unfortunately, I don’t think the Grizz want Curry for Gasol.

Since his contract expires next year, do you think any GM would be interested in Marbury simply as a cap management device.

Speaking of this inbound pass–

Why did Nate slam on the breaks at half court allowing Farmar to steal the ball? Can’t a player catch the ball in the backcourt during an inbounds play in the last 2 minutes?

I haven’t seen anybody pick up in this, with most blaming Lee instead of Nate for the TO. But I did read a Nate quote saying he didn’t catch the ball because he didn’t want to cross the half-court line.

Am I wrong about this rule?

Here are my points:
1. Dec 2003 is when Isiah came in- I would wipe that year off- 2003-20041/2 – if you throw in the Larry Brown disaster. I think in retrospect – most can agree that the LArry Brown ‘idea; was certainly not Isiah’s- as it does not fit his mindset in anyway.
2. There must be at least a PARTIAL acceptance that bringing Marbury + Brown was a move designed to generate interest in the team while it was to under go re-construction.

That said – that gives us two and a half years – of Isiah’s moves which have resulted in:
1. Eddie Curry- agreed ‘muffins’ and all – but the one thing ‘I’ see – is almost all the Knicks opponents swarm him in the post and he is STILL getting double and tripled team in the post. I do NOT disagree that he does not pass out of those well, his defense is poor, he can get more rebounds etc etc. However- very few ‘bad’ centers get double and triple teamed on the basis that Curry does.
2. Zach Randolph: I really like his game and offensively consider him to be far superior to Kurt Thomas- he can shoot consistently from 18 feet and in/ does rebound.
3. Crawford – is and always will be an enigma- no ‘real’ hops to actually force his way to the basket. No ‘real’ consistency in his jumper, and a lot of poor decisions and turnovers. But at times- like against the Lakers recently – he can go from 0/10 in the first half to 8/11 in the second half and finish with 30 points or so.
4. David Lee- all he does is get points and rebounds. Still raw- as can be seen by the in bounds pass to Nate Robinson – and the fact that he has yet to develop a 10 foot jumper range that would make him dangerous.
5. Nate Robinson-tremendous athlete- can take it to the hole, quick as heck, has developed his shot much more and is playing better every year.
6. Jeffries- can be a good defender, is getting better offensively and may in a few years become a pretty good role player.
7. Fred Jones- has hops, can take it to the hole. Needs a jumper and can play PG if needed- provides some defense

Unknowns-
1.Balkman- good athlete (not great ala Rodman) -no shot to speak off -
2. Chandler – tremendous hops and if he gets a consistent jumper -look out. Prolly a ‘good’ defensive player on the Knicks roster. Needs a year or so.

IMO- Marbury/Richardson/Rose are all gone in two years -freeing up close to 50 million in cap space.

So my interpretation is :
That Isiah is or has tried to put together a power inside team. Curry /Randolph with Lee/Jeffries/Rose will allow you to play the ole skool ball of pounding it in to the post.

I definitely think that the only players worth anything in the 03 line up were houston, spreewell and thomas period. I would say that Houston and Spreewell can be considered stand out players and the Knicks may have only one at best- Randolph. But overall the Knicks roster of today is definitelt better.

Then, IT makes what looks to be a great trade. We get Z Bo, with all star numbers, for the useless Francis and the aforementioned Frye, who was certainly no longer helping the team. Reports on Zach admit his skills but say he’s a bad character guy. He promises to reform (echoes of Bernard King!) Portland has only traded Z Bo because with the top pick in the draft, they are able to get Odom, a sure thing, the second coming of Wilt Chamberlain, who will dominate the paint making Zach superfluous. Then Odom hurts himself and is out for the season. We note that Portland will doubtless lose all their games again and get a second #1 pick but who cares?

And what happens? Z bo seems to play well; he puts up his usual numbers and as a bonus, shows no bad character signs but the rest of the team does not mesh and we become the worst and most disappointing team any of us can recall. Well, you’ld think Portland must be worse. Whoops. They just won their 11th in a row (best win streak in the league so far). I looked. Frye doesn’t start but is a useful sub. Francis is no where to be seen. The explanation must be THE Z BO CURSE IS LIFTED. All IT, therefore, needs to do is bench Z Bo, or have him killed, and we would at least be as good as last year pre-injuries. Worth a try, no?

Or maybe Isaiah is Joe BTFSPLK.

Looks like Lee is getting the start tmw, pretty fair Christmas present for me….

so if Isiah drafts Bynum over Frye, doesn’t make the initial Francis deal (keeping Ariza), and had somehow pulled off a deal including Lee and Balkman for Kobe, that Laker core today could have been in orange and blue. those three guys went for 80 points, 24 boards, 14 assists, 4 steals and 3 blocks combined today. LA is suddenly looking very dangerous in the West, a very deep bench and Bynum seems to become more of a force by the day.