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Saturday, April 19, 2014

Somewhat Quick Reaction: Knicks @ Sixers

New York Knicks 82 Final
Recap | Box Score
79 Philadelphia 76ers
Carmelo Anthony, SF 34 MIN | 5-15 FG | 0-1 FT | 5 REB | 2 AST | 10 PTS | +1

I take exception with anyone who calls Anthony a one dimensional chucker. Clearly, he is a multi-dimensional chucker. No, his shot still isn’t falling but the fact that teams still need to commit the defense to him opens things up for his teammates. This was on brilliant display on a deft touch assist to Stoudemire out of a double team. I just hope he doesnt forget how to pass once his shot returns.

Amare Stoudemire, PF 37 MIN | 8-14 FG | 5-8 FT | 9 REB | 2 AST | 21 PTS | -3

I have no problem calling this the best game of the season for Stat. This reminded me of the classic battle between Ash’s Charizard and Blaine’s Magmar. Stat’s block of Brand’s layup with 4:11 to play in the 4th was as close to a seismic toss as you’ll ever see in basketball.
Brand is unable to battle. Stat wins!

Tyson Chandler, C 25 MIN | 1-4 FG | 2-2 FT | 7 REB | 1 AST | 4 PTS | -1

Well we found something that can stop the T-1000: Mike Woodson. Chandler sat the 4th when conventional wisdom would call for his defense and rebounding prowess. I think sitting him was a wise couching move.

Landry Fields, G 18 MIN | 3-3 FG | 2-3 FT | 2 REB | 1 AST | 8 PTS | 0

Fields’ jumper is very broken. Yes, he rattled in a 17 footer that was flatter than an Olsen Twins’ chest (hey they are over 18 now, I can write that.) and he managed a couple of lay ups to go 3-3 from the floor . But you can’t tell me that you are happy with a shooting guard who can’t, you know, shoot. Even with lower case ‘j,’ Fields played solid minutes and helped the team get off to a quick start.

Jeremy Lin, PG 36 MIN | 4-17 FG | 10-10 FT | 5 REB | 3 AST | 18 PTS | +8

Let the battle for the soul of NYC begin. Much like the new Jets’ QB, Lin saved his best work for the final frame. It took the refs about 26 minutes of watching Philadelphia’s back court knock Lin around before they remembered they have whistles. When Lin finally got the calls, he gamely knocked down 10 of 10 free throws (all in the 4th).

As John Abbey put it “that is one of the best 4-17 and 3 assist games from a PG you will ever see.”

Baron Davis, PG 12 MIN | 2-7 FG | 0-0 FT | 1 REB | 1 AST | 5 PTS | -5

Davis played poorly enough to make me wonder if Coach Woodson would recite from the Third Dynasty Sacred scroll to once again call forth his undead servant, Mike Bibby:

“Grow, o light. Come forth, o light.
Rise, o light.Ascend, o light.
O darkness, remove thyself from before him.
Open his eyes.
Open, tat. Open, nap.
Open his eyes.
O darkness, remove thyself from before him.
Open his eyes.
The eater of shadows, the eater of souls,
open his eyes.
Open, tat. Open, nap.
Open his eyes.”

Luckily Woodson kept the scroll in his pocket, and kept Davis on the bench right next to Bibby or as I call him “Lot No. 249.” .

Jared Jeffries, PF 14 MIN | 1-4 FG | 0-0 FT | 4 REB | 1 AST | 2 PTS | +4

Left in the third with what looks to be a calf injury. Prior to that, he played great help defense and gamely worked the boards.

Steve Novak, SF 10 MIN | 1-1 FG | 0-0 FT | 1 REB | 0 AST | 2 PTS | +8

While he could have helped during that awful 3rd quarter, I can’t argue with him getting 10 minutes tonight. I love the stroke from deep but let’s face it, when a team can close out on threes the way Philly can, Novak just isnt going to get the space he needs to get the shot off. I think Woodson figured that out and responded accordingly.

J.R. Smith, SG 29 MIN | 3-11 FG | 1-2 FT | 5 REB | 1 AST | 8 PTS | -1

Since KB is always on the lookout for new T-shirts to sell. Might I suggest we buy up the remaining “Who shot JR?” shirts and just change the punctuation so it reads “Who shot? JR.” I’m not sure why JR got to play 29 minutes, shoot 3-11 (1-4 3fgs), and make several questionable passes on a night when Landry Fields seemed to have it going. This was the one questionable aspect of Woodson’s rotation tonight (more on that later), but his defense wasn’t awful in the 4th so he gets a solid C.

Iman Shumpert, G 25 MIN | 1-3 FG | 2-2 FT | 8 REB | 0 AST | 4 PTS | +4

Shump do what Shump do.

With Woodson going with a smaller lineup to counter Philadelphia’s back court lead run in the third, Shumpert quietly took over the role as defensive stopper and rebounder while Chandler sat. Shump Shump played the entire 4th Quarter in which he grabbed 6 boards–2 offensive–and played great defense. In a grind it out game, Shump did the dirty work Chandler normally does.

Five Things We Saw

  1. This is the first game where I noticed that Mike Woodson is not the same coach as Mike D’Antoni. Where D’Antoni would have tried to keep shoving a round Davis into a square hole, Woodson actually made adjustments to address what Philadelphia was doing. This is especially clear in the late 3rd and early 4th when Philly made a big run behind their backcourt scoring. Woodson responded by sitting Chandler and going with a small lineup. On offense, this created more space for Stat. On defense, Shumpert helped slow Williams and Meeks.
  2. It is good to see the Knicks win a grind it out sort of game in which the shots are not falling from deep (2-13 3fgs). Defense is something a team can bring to every game. It is nice to see the team win a game with defense, and smart play down the stretch.
  3. Getting the tie-breaker against the Sixers was huge.
  4. I do hope Chandler’s benching was just a good coaching decision rather than an indication of an injury. If Jeffries misses a few games with the lower leg injury, we will need Chandler as close to optimal as possible
  5. I think Anthony will figure things out on offense. He has been too good for too long not to find a way to contribute in this offense.

55 comments on “Somewhat Quick Reaction: Knicks @ Sixers

  1. Thomas B. Post author

    jon abbey:
    heh, you used the stats from the Toronto game.

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  2. BigBlueAL

    This team is beginning to remind me a bit of the 1999-2000 teams. Those teams didnt rely on 1 or 2 players to have to score every night. With Houston/Spree/Ewing/LJ/Camby/Thomas and even Ward/Childs they had multiple options which this team has. Melo has scored and shot pretty horribly during this 5 game winning streak but it hasnt mattered at all because others have stepped up and because Melo hasnt allowed it to affect his defense and rebounding.

    The players on those Knick teams could struggle on offense but they all still played their asses off on defense every game which is what the players on this team have done these past 5 games. It has been great to see and hopefully they keep it up the rest of the season.

  3. drm1977

    I kind of like the uniform A+s. This was an A+ game in sum, with all sorts of individual grades scattered around. Can’t fault the team how it played. That was a gutsy and tough game.

    A few threads ago I wondered what we’d see when the team got its back to the wall. We saw them dig down and push back hard.

    One thing that’s stood out about this team all season is how physically strong they are. This is a tough bunch of guys who aren’t easily pushed around. The puzzle was that they didn’t play that way, and when they did get physical, it was because of out-of-control emotion.

    Tonight when they walked off the court, Clyde said something about the team spirit. It’s easy to call it when you’re on a winning streak, but one thing that shouldn’t happen to this Knick team is that they get physically intimidated. When they believe in themselves, they can dig down and get tough. Boston is going to have to watch out.

  4. Robert Silverman

    Really interesting comment from a Philly blogger:

    “Until last week, there wasn’t much to cheer about the Knicks, but now they seem to have things going. They are still sort of disorganized on offense, with each possession little more than a one-actor performance designed to get a certain player a certain shot. Mike Woodson, who replaced D’Antoni, is a good coach and smart enough to avoid the pitfalls that got his predecessor fired. Rather than try to have the team play to its abilities, he will let the Knicks play to what they think are their abilities.

    This makes for a happier roster, and, if the coach is really lucky, a team can translate that happiness into wins. It has happened before.”

    http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/20120321_Sixers_and_Knicks_appear_to_be_heading_in_opposite_directions.html#ixzz1pog5gR2b

  5. BigBlueAL

    Robert Silverman:
    Really interesting comment from a Philly blogger:

    “Until last week, there wasn’t much to cheer about the Knicks, but now they seem to have things going. They are still sort of disorganized on offense, with each possession little more than a one-actor performance designed to get a certain player a certain shot. Mike Woodson, who replaced D’Antoni, is a good coach and smart enough to avoid the pitfalls that got his predecessor fired. Rather than try to have the team play to its abilities, he will let the Knicks play to what they think are their abilities.

    This makes for a happier roster, and, if the coach is really lucky, a team can translate that happiness into wins. It has happened before.”

    http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/20120321_Sixers_and_Knicks_appear_to_be_heading_in_opposite_directions.html#ixzz1pog5gR2b

    Great stuff from that blog. Love the Doug Collins quotes.

  6. coolzz

    Did you guys look at Lin’s steal and beautiful pass, Melo’s dunk?

    02:02 Iguodala Turnover : Bad Pass (2 TO) Steal:Lin (1 ST)
    Anthony Dunk Shot: Made (8 PTS) Assist: Chandler (1 AST) 01:58
    [NYK 38-29]

    What?
    Somebody explains to me.
    Maybe someone mistakes.

  7. Brian Cronin

    I was watching the highlight of McGee’s game-winning dunk in Denver and something occurred to me, “Who the hell are Denver’s assistant coaches?” Even after looking them up (John Welch, Melvin Hunt, Chad Iske), I still don’t know who they are. Even more remarkable is the fact that of Karl’s three assistants, none of them are Karl assistants. You know, the way Phil Jackson brought Jim Cleamons everywhere with him. All of these guys either came from other teams recently or were in Denver when Karl got there. And that made me think, has Karl ever had a famous assistant? If not, that’s kind of weird, right? Don’t notable coaches typically also have notable assistants? Has Karl ever had an assistant who became a head coach on his own? Scott Brook, I know, technically counts, but he was in Denver when Karl got there and left after one season with Karl to be an assistant elsewhere, so it is hard to sell him as a Karl assistant, ya know?

    I must be missing someone. Anyone have any ideas?

  8. limpidgimp

    coolzz:
    Did you guys look at Lin’s steal and beautiful pass, Melo’s dunk?

    02:02Iguodala Turnover : Bad Pass (2 TO) Steal:Lin (1 ST)
    Anthony Dunk Shot: Made (8 PTS) Assist: Chandler (1 AST)01:58
    [NYK 38-29]

    What?
    Somebody explains to me.
    Maybe someone mistakes.

    The play-by-play record is wrong. Melo’s dunk was not assisted Chandler, but by Lin. One of those touchdown passes.

    http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/playbyplay?gameId=320321020&period=2

  9. Robert Silverman

    Brian Cronin:
    I was watching the highlight of McGee’s game-winning dunk in Denver and something occurred to me, “Who the hell are Denver’s assistant coaches?” Even after looking them up (John Welch, Melvin Hunt, Chad Iske), I still don’t know who they are. Even more remarkable is the fact that of Karl’s three assistants, none of them are Karl assistants. You know, the way Phil Jackson brought Jim Cleamons everywhere with him. All of these guys either came from other teams recently or were in Denver when Karl got there. And that made me think, has Karl ever had a famous assistant? If not, that’s kind of weird, right? Don’t notable coaches typically also have notable assistants? Has Karl ever had an assistant who became a head coach on his own? Scott Brook, I know, technically counts, but he was in Denver when Karl got there and left after one season with Karl to be an assistant elsewhere, so it is hard to sell him as a Karl assistant, ya know?

    I must be missing someone. Anyone have any ideas?

    Tim Grgurich was kind of a hot assistant coaching name for awhile.

  10. jon abbey

    Brian Cronin:
    I was watching the highlight of McGee’s game-winning dunk in Denver and something occurred to me, “Who the hell are Denver’s assistant coaches?” Even after looking them up (John Welch, Melvin Hunt, Chad Iske), I still don’t know who they are. Even more remarkable is the fact that of Karl’s three assistants, none of them are Karl assistants. You know, the way Phil Jackson brought Jim Cleamons everywhere with him. All of these guys either came from other teams recently or were in Denver when Karl got there. And that made me think, has Karl ever had a famous assistant? If not, that’s kind of weird, right? Don’t notable coaches typically also have notable assistants? Has Karl ever had an assistant who became a head coach on his own? Scott Brook, I know, technically counts, but he was in Denver when Karl got there and left after one season with Karl to be an assistant elsewhere, so it is hard to sell him as a Karl assistant, ya know?

    I must be missing someone. Anyone have any ideas?

    Tim Grgurich was an assistant to Karl for 12 years.

  11. Brian Cronin

    Thanks, guys.

    Even there, though, while obviously it counts (as 12 seasons is 12 seasons), Grgurich did not spend 12 straight seasons with Karl, just 12 seasons total. Which is odd. I have never heard of a coach/assistant coach relationship that had such long breaks between it (while both men were working, that is). Sounds like he left Denver because he was pissed that they fired Mark Warkentien.

  12. Robert Silverman

    LOVE this Jared Jeffries quote. I hope the injury isn’t bad.

    “Jeremy Lin went to the bench midway through the third quarter on Wednesday with a terrible stat line: 1-for-11 from the field, two points, two assists and a turnover.

    One veteran Knick had a simple message for him as he sat down.
    “This is when you have to prove that everything you’ve done up to this point is legit, [prove] what you’re made of,” Jared Jeffries told Lin.”

  13. ruruland

    Robert Silverman:
    One thing that’s stood out about this team all season is how physically strong they are. This is

    He never wanted a bigger role. One of the best player development coaches in the league, and a huge part of the player growth you typically see on Karl teams. Some might even say he was more important than Karl…. that’s starting to become evident, and I’m a big GK fan…..

    Gk loves to have a team of energetic young coaches. he’s had a lot of them, a lot of solid ones, too, even if they weren’t really being groomed for a head job or part of his tree.

    Grg is one of the most underrated coaches in NBA history, imo. Spend 15-20 minutes to find out the kinds of things people say about him.

  14. ruruland

    Brian Cronin:
    Thanks, guys.

    Even there, though, while obviously it counts (as 12 seasons is 12 seasons), Grgurich did not spend 12 straight seasons with Karl, just 12 seasons total. Which is odd. I have never heard of a coach/assistant coach relationship that had such long breaks between it (while both men were working, that is). Sounds like he left Denver because he was pissed that they fired Mark Warkentien.

    Yep.

    And Wark was not a huge GK guy, Bearup was. Wark is one wierd, dude, too, who’s had one of the stranger succesfull NBA front office careers you’ll see.

    Grg threatened to leave or retire almost every year though.

  15. ruruland

    Also, let me know the if the Knicks had a more important win in the last decade.

    When you’re at an energy disadvantage, resulting in a physical disadvantage on the road against a team like that, when nothing is really going for you on offense…. Woodson I think is right on what it means:”there is no game moving forward this team won’t think it can’t win.”

    This is just the start of things (knock on wood for health)…

  16. ruruland

    jon abbey: this one seemed pretty big at the time, I think bigger than tonight:

    I never got the feel from that team. Different in almost every respect, though talent can come together to upset a superior team from time time to time — that’s what it felt like.

    This team has the same feel, if not the potential to be much more powerful, than the teams I’ve personally witnessed go on major runs…

    I knew it was in there, and the longer that it takes to come together the longer and more potent the run is…. This team, imo, hasn’t even begun to start burning that frustration energy from earlier in the year….As someone else noted, it’s all been very positive energy… Guys are sacrificing for each other and cheering each other on as much as any team I’ve seen. That’s a wonderful foundation to build on.

    But when the total trust is there, and the team starts to realize not how good it can be but how good it is, that’s when you get to another kind of place where you can actually intimidate teams into quitting early. The Nuggets teams I’ve seen reach that place, but spent too much of that energy frontrunning teams (168 against Durant and OKC is one example of many)… b

    You can get there without getting these ind of wins, though. And honestly, these kind of wins translate the best in the playoffs. But there’s a couple levels above this that this team can reach, and if they time it right, I have no question it’s good enough to at least take either Chicago or Miami to the brink….

    I said 9 of their next 11 would be a good result, with the possibility of 13 heading into a home game against Chicago. I really felt it hinged on this game, not just the result of the game but what it would mean to the run (and more importantly the playoffs.)

    Now I think they have a real shot at 13 straight, it might mean catching a break or two in a…

  17. jon abbey

    ruruland:
    http://www.msg.com/our-teams/knicks/carmelo-postgame-win-vs-sixers-321-1.85974

    I’d be interested to hear the ‘Melo-is-deluded’ crowd break that down.

    well, he says he’s not concerned about his shot. I’m concerned about his shot, he’s running out of time to get things going for himself offensively, and if NY will have any chance of winning a playoff series, they’ll need him to be the All-Star level scoring threat that he’s been in previous seasons. you keep saying it’s coming, but it’s still not here.

  18. BigBlueAL

    Best part was the way he answered the question about his wrist. Still have no idea what the hell he meant with his answer lol

  19. Z

    ruruland:
    Also, let me know the if the Knicks had a more important win in the last decade…

    The fact that a mid-season win, against a weak division leader, during a strike shortened year, by a team that’s under .500 in late March, very well might be the most important win by the team in over a decade should show you just what kind of a depressed fan base you’ve wandered into here…

    (any why you should forgive us for wanting to denigrate Carmelo rather than jumping on the “part of something great” bandwagon.)

    (Stockholm Syndrome Only Effects The Weak!)

  20. BigBlueAL

    Brian Cronin: Ha! I totally thought of that game, as well.

    Sad part is in the last decade we only have 2 playoff seasons to choose from. I will still hold on to the stupid belief that if Allan Houston doesnt get hurt that team if not that season in the following season put up a decent fight in the playoffs.

  21. BigBlueAL

    BigBlueAL:
    Best part was the way he answered the question about his wrist.Still have no idea what the hell he meant with his answer lol

    OK Im lying, Im pretty sure I know what he meant.

    Its obvious his wrist is still bothering him. He just doesnt want to use it as an excuse so thats why he said it doesnt bother him while playing but he “doesnt know” if there is something wrong with his wrist.

  22. BigBlueAL

    This biggest win in a decade thing has gotten me thinking about best regular season win Ive witnessed as a Knicks fan. The best wins I remember are all the playoff wins from 1990-2001 (75 by my count).

    In terms of regular season wins though I guess JVG’s first win as coach when they blew out the 1996 Bulls by 32 is up there. The 20 point 2nd half comeback vs the Heat in 1999 w/o Ewing playing was huge too. But for me its the final game of the 1997 regular season, a 103-101 win in Chicago which denied them their 70th win and clinched the 3rd seed for the Knicks (also was their 57th win of the season). It made me honestly think that we finally had a team that can and will beat Michael Jordan in the playoffs. Fucking PJ Brown….

  23. GoKnicksGo

    First you learn how to win, then you learn how to win consistently, then finally how to win tough games. The pieces are all here…enough of the Lin vs. Melo vs Stat debates. Every player knows exactly what their role is now, and now you gameplan for every team you face and make adjustments. The adjustments made tonight are what is necessary to beat defensive teams like Bos, Mia, Chi, Phil. Sometimes teams are going to take out one of your players, but it doesnt mean they’re incapable of contributing, and you got a ton of guys now, that can step up every night. I hope JJ gets back healthy, but now that Amare and Melo are committed to D, I am less worried.

  24. JK47

    I have to admit, I kind of wrote of Amar’e, and man was I wrong. He is playing brutally effective ball right now:

    TS%
    vs 76ers .599
    vs Raptors .674
    vs Pacers .694
    vs Pacers .405 (oops)
    vs Blazers .751
    vs Bulls .663
    vs 76ers .455
    vs Bucks .765
    vs Spurs .597
    vs Mavericks .604

    18.4 points and 8.0 boards per game on a .632 TS%.

  25. BigBlueAL

    Just read this quote in the Post from Amar’e:

    “We’re not playing for Mike Woodson,” Stoudemire said. “We’re playing for us.”

  26. Brian Cronin

    We’ve had a number of really cool regular season wins mixed in with the mire that has been the Knicks of the past decade.

    Off the top of my head (on top of the aforementioned Milwaukee comeback)…

    1. David Lee’s tip-in at the buzzer against Charlotte
    2. Jamal Crawford’s 50…whatever point game against Miami
    3. Allan Houston’s 50…whatever point game against the Lakers
    4. Jamal Crawford’s crazy-ass game-winner against Denver (where, down 2, he loses the ball but then steals it back and runs downcourt and heaves up a three that goes in)
    5. Marbury’s stunner against Utah (where he went cross-court in the closing seconds for the win)
    6. The Larry Brown win-streak where David Lee got his first real burn (including the classic 2-OT win against Phoenix, a game that went to OT by Eddy Curry nailing two free throws at the end of regulation)
    7. The two wins against Miami last year (one pre-trade and one post-trade)
    8. Nate’s return against Atlanta as he rallied the team with 30-something off of the bench
    9. Houston’s trey in his first game back against Philly when we thought he might be healthy (he wasn’t)
    10. Gallo drawing the charge against Denver last year
    11. That game against Golden State where Lee and Duhon had insane numbers (Lee had 37 points and 21 rebounds and Duhon had 12 points and 22 assists)
    12. STAT’s big game against Philly last year
    13. Beating Indiana in Don Chaney’s debut as Knick coach (before everything went downhill)
    14. Linsanity

    I’m sure there are plenty more examples.

  27. Z-man

    I don’t generally lol when I read this blog, but the JR line made me lol. Nice one, Thomas!

  28. Frank

    Great JR line Thomas B – I know KB is on Truehoop but that joke should go national. I bet you JR himself would love it. George Karl would probably buy 10 of those T-shirts himself.

    I loved this game last night – who said uglyball was a bad thing? This felt like a mid-90s Knicks-Pacers or Knicks-Heat game – rough, physical, intense.

    Melo looks horrible on offense but I will give him this – he pulled down some tough rebounds in traffic in the 4th last night (he pulled down 3 tough defensive boards in the last 2:25) and played really nice D on Iguodala. If you look back since Woodson took over, guys that Melo has guarded have had horrible offensive games – he really is making that effort. Hopefully he can keep this up, and not revert back to his old ways whenever his offense decides to wake up. Even if he turns out just to be our version of Iguodala (worse defense, better offense eventually, but one of the major distributors on offense), that might be just what this team needs.

    Also, I have no problem with sitting Tyson in the 4th – before the game was fully decided (78-71 with 26 seconds left), we had only given up 13 points in the 4th quarter. Yes, they scored 8 points in the last 26 seconds but the game was already over. Tough to argue with 13 points against in 11:34.

  29. jon abbey

    that JR Smith line is definitely not original, I know I’ve seen it since he’s come to NY even. sorry, Thomas.

  30. d-mar

    I used the “who shot JR” line in the game thread for his first game, but it was ignored – I figured it was because everyone on the site was too young to remember “Dallas”

  31. Thomas B. Post author

    jon abbey:

    Mike Vaccaro in mid-Feb:

    https://twitter.com/#!/MikeVacc/status/171298295287791618

    It is original to me in that I thought of it last year during the Melo trade talks. I did not see it anywhere else, though I don’t doubt it was uttered before I used it here. I don’t follow anyone on Twitter. Besides, did anyone else think to put it on a T-shirt? Not that anything could make jon happy, but perhaps giving the proceeds from this joke to the Mike V. foundation will come close.

  32. rohank

    @42:

    Brian, I thought Nate scored 42 pts in your example #8, but I could be mis-remembering

    How about that 3OT win over the Pistons (when they were in that streak of going to the ECF a bunch of years in a row) where Frye hit the game-tying long two-pointer at the buzzer in double-OT

  33. Jim Cavan

    Sorry I’m late to the party, but nice work, Thomas.

    I’ll go ahead and agree with many in saying that was our biggest win in many, many moons.

  34. Z

    Brian Cronin:
    We’ve had a number of really cool regular season wins mixed in with the mire that has been the Knicks of the past decade.

    Off the top of my head (on top of the aforementioned Milwaukee comeback)…

    1. David Lee’s tip-in at the buzzer against Charlotte
    2. Jamal Crawford’s 50…whatever point game against Miami
    3. Allan Houston’s 50…whatever point game against the Lakers
    4. Jamal Crawford’s crazy-ass game-winner against Denver (where, down 2, he loses the ball but then steals it back and runs downcourt and heaves up a three that goes in)
    5. Marbury’s stunner against Utah (where he went cross-court in the closing seconds for the win)
    6. The Larry Brown win-streak where David Lee got his first real burn (including the classic 2-OT win against Phoenix, a game that went to OT by Eddy Curry nailing two free throws at the end of regulation)
    7. The two wins against Miami last year (one pre-trade and one post-trade)
    8. Nate’s return against Atlanta as he rallied the team with 30-something off of the bench
    9. Houston’s trey in his first game back against Philly when we thought he might be healthy (he wasn’t)
    10. Gallo drawing the charge against Denver last year
    11. That game against Golden State where Lee and Duhon had insane numbers (Lee had 37 points and 21 rebounds and Duhon had 12 points and 22 assists)
    12. STAT’s big game against Philly last year
    13. Beating Indiana in Don Chaney’s debut as Knick coach (before everything went downhill)
    14. Linsanity

    I’m sure there are plenty more examples.

    Yeah, those games were all cool, and ultimately completely meaningless. Ruruland’s suggestion was that this game may have been the franchise’s most important win in the past ten years, which is sad but probably true. (and when I say “sad”, I mean truly pathetically miserable. (Makes me hate Dolan even more, even in the face of…

  35. David Crockett

    “Who shot? JR.” is Die Bart, Die brilliant.

    And, I’m going to say right now, “I think sitting [Chandler] was a wise *couching* move,” is criminally underrated in this thread.

  36. David Crockett

    Brian Cronin:
    Has Karl ever had an assistant who became a head coach on his own? Scott Brook, I know, technically counts, but he was in Denver when Karl got there and left after one season with Karl to be an assistant elsewhere, so it is hard to sell him as a Karl assistant, ya know?

    The only assistant I associate with Karl is Terry Stotts. He banged the drum pretty hard for Stotts, pretty strongly implying that Stotts wasn’t being promoted to a head coach at the time because he is white.

  37. Thomas B. Post author

    David Crockett:

    “Who shot? JR.” is Die Bart, Die brilliant.

    And, I’m going to say right now, “I think sitting [Chandler] was a wise *couching* move,” is criminally underrated in this thread.

    Gotta slide the puns in where you can. I’m sure someone tweeted ‘couching move’ months ago. :-)

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