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Wednesday, October 22, 2014

Some Linteresting comps

Those of you who stick around KBlogger after the season’s close are probably familiar with our Report Cards. When we’re not busy going out of our way to hurt a certain player’s feelings, part of our analysis involves comparing them to other players in the modern era who reflect some of the same statistics.

Over at the always outstanding, stats-driven Hickory High, Ian Levy (also of TrueHoop partner in crime Two Man Game), did some great number crunching to come up with a few similarity scores for Jeremy Lin. Some of the names that came up might surprise you.

Check out Ian’s great post here!

28 comments on “Some Linteresting comps

  1. jon abbey

    wow, that is a truly pointless post (the Hickory High one). it seems to only be based on his college numbers, but when two of the people who come up are James Harden and Tony Allen, it fails the common-sense test, sorry.

  2. Nick C.

    … and the first two are Marcus Banks and Reece Gaines we better hope it’s wrong.

    Anything to forestall the two hundred posts of trade proposals and coach firing rants is still better than nothing.

  3. Gideon Zaga

    You guys should take credit for this

    “@alanhahn: “@RonE_Coleman7: @alanhahn How Does Amare look? Any better yet?” put in extra work postpractice. Seems to be looking to shed weight”

  4. Grymm

    Just to add some perspective, 2 years ago tomorrow our starting 5 for a game was:
    Sergio Fernandez
    Tracy McGrady
    Danilo Gallinari
    Al Harrington
    David Lee
    with Jonathan Bender, Eddie House, Toney Douglas, and Bill Walker logging minutes off the bench. Chris Duhon and JR Giddens did not play. Wilson Chandler was injured.

  5. xcat01

    @9, good perpective. That’s why we can’t judge the Knicks and D’Antoni until after the season. Give the the team a chance to gel. Good to hear that Stat has decided to lose the extra weight, he probably was figuring on having to do more ISOs with Melo leading the team but now with JLin and a return to the Pick&Roll he needs speed not muscle bulk.

  6. Brian Cronin

    So how badly will Kyrie Irving abuse Lin?

    It’ll be a tough matchup, that’s for sure. If Shump is healthy, though, they could use him on Irving if need be.

  7. outoftowner

    Is anyone else getting Linsanity withdrawal? After all the rush of mid February going a week without any games is starting to give me the shakes…

  8. d-mar

    outoftowner:
    Is anyone else getting Linsanity withdrawal?After all the rush of mid February going a week without any games is starting to give me the shakes…

    I do miss the games, but I’m thrilled they’re getting all this practice time. The timing could not be better with us being almost 100% healthy (finally)

  9. Owen

    Spending a little more time at Grantland….

    Got to say I loved this interview with Chris Paul. Might be the smartest sounding player I have ever heard, not surprising with how he plays.

    Amazing to hear him talking about getting a 2-1 for one at the end of quarters, etc. Also, talking about Reggie Evans and how valuable it is to have a guy on the team who doesn’t care about scoring but can still be productive.

    http://espn.go.com/espnradio/grantland/player?id=7611939

  10. Z-man

    d-mar: I do miss the games, but I’m thrilled they’re getting all this practice time. The timing could not be better with us being almost 100% healthy (finally)

    Yeah, no excuses anymore. Of course, that breeds a different kind of pressure…

  11. jon abbey

    there are still mild excuses for a few more weeks, a few practices don’t instantly create chemistry. Baron has been saying it will take him about 15 games to get up to speed, so that’s around when I’ll start judging this team as a finished product, although I expect them to get better and better as the season goes along.

  12. Z-man

    True jon, but is no reason for us to lose to the likes of the Cavs tomorrow, especially after they suffered a tough loss to the Celts. We have enough depth and health now to win nearly all games vs. lower echelon teams.

  13. jon abbey

    I agree that tomorrow is a big game, as is the next one against the Celtics, NY can make the stretch run decidedly easier with wins in the next two games.

    but that doesn’t mean chemistry magically appears. my rule of thumb in normal seasons is it takes 40 games for a major acquisition to get fully assimilated, and that is with normal practice time.

    unfortunately Cleveland only played one guy (Jamison) more than 27 minutes tonight, 9 guys played 20+ minutes, so they should be reasonably rested for tomorrow.

  14. hoolahoop

    jon abbey: but that doesn’t mean chemistry magically appears. my rule of thumb in normal seasons is it takes 40 games for a major acquisition to get fully assimilated, and that is with normal practice time.

    unfortunately Cleveland only played one guy (Jamison) more than 27 minutes tonight, 9 guys played 20+ minutes, so they should be reasonably rested for tomorrow.

    Chemistry is funny. Sometimes it happens instantly. Sometimes it never comes at all. And everything in between.

    For some reason, the high powered pieces (Amare, Melo) have had more trouble fitting together than all the rotational guys from the Lost and Found. The Lin streak was pure chemistry. And since Melo got here we’ve been waiting for this team to gel.

    Now, they’re New and Improved. . . looking forward to the rest of the season.

  15. massive

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-_G7mQR-80

    The first question comes from Landry, and is worth a laugh or two. If Landry was as talented as he is charismatic and likeable, he’d be Kevin Durant. That said, he’s my favorite Knick to root for. I didn’t think I’d enjoy rooting for any Knicks team more than last season’s team before Melo, but I have to say I love this team more than I did that one. Here’s to Lin vs Irving tomorrow.

  16. hoolahoop

    Owen:
    Spending a little more time at Grantland….

    Got to say I loved this interview with Chris Paul. Might be the smartest sounding player I have ever heard, not surprising with how he plays.

    Amazing to hear him talking about getting a 2-1 for one at the end of quarters, etc. Also, talking about Reggie Evans and how valuable it is to have a guy on the team who doesn’t care about scoring but can still be productive.

    http://espn.go.com/espnradio/grantland/player?id=7611939

    O, thanks for the link. Great interiew w/ CP3.
    Everyone should listen that wants to hear what a winner sounds like.

  17. jon abbey

    hoolahoop:

    For some reason, the high powered pieces (Amare, Melo) have had more trouble fitting together than all the rotational guys from the Lost and Found. The Lin streak was pure chemistry.

    I don’t know about chemistry as much as it was everyone in the rotation busting their asses like they were a mid-major playing in the second round of the NCAAs against a more talented team every night. even in this shortened and crammed year, the NBA season is a marathon, and only very young superfreak athletes can generally go all out all season and still be in peak form in June. guys like Chandler and Amare and Melo know this, I think this is also a cause of their issues so far (I think that Chandler can still get much better, hard to believe).

    as for chemistry, I am excited to see Chandler and Baron play together for I guess the first time in the NBA? they are long time homies from Compton, Baron was I guess something of a role model for Chandler growing up, Tyson has known him since he was a freshman in high school (!).

  18. Dr. K

    I appreciate the use of comparative stats to compare Lin to other, more established players — in this case, James Harden. In the spirit of tonight’s game against Cleveland, check out this post from Basketball I.Q., which uses more accessible alternative stats to compare Kyrie Irving to the rookie Derrick Rose:
    http://www.hoopstats101.blogspot.com/2012/02/kyrie-irving-vs-derrick-rose.html
    The utility of these relatively simple stats is high-yield — also check out, from a Basketball I.Q. post from last year, a draft assessment of Irving, in which his collegiate career was compared to Rose in an effort to predict his professional arc:
    http://www.hoopstats101.blogspot.com/2011/05/2011-nba-draft-card-kyrie-irving.html
    This site seems to produce some pretty simple, and validated, alternative stats.

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