I also think that your visual observation of Curry’s rebounding, or lack thereof, is internally inconsistent. It appears to me that Curry does box out, though he admittedly isn’t quick to get to the ball. (An example of this is the end of the home loss to the Nets where he boxed out Cliff Robinson but did not jump quickly enough to keep Robinson from climbing up his back (foul!) and tipping it in.) If Curry wasn’t boxing out, how come other Knicks are getting the rebounds as opposed to an opposing player?

As for the double-teaming point, I’m not suggesting that Curry is being doubleteamed because he is a good rebounder (he’s obviously not). I’m saying that the Knicks as a team are able to rebound so well because Curry is occupying two opponents, allowing Curry, Richardson, or another Knick to get the rebound. Ultimately it doesn’t matter who gets the board as long as the Knicks control it.

ps. reggie evans also used to consume massive amountf of rebounds per 48.. that doesnt mean he was starter worthy

Sure, and maybe Jamal’s missed shots help the Knicks’ rebounding too!

Sorry for the sarcasm, but I don’t see this to be true. From watching Curry he doesn’t do anything spectacular under the boards. He doesn’t box out, and isn’t aggressive in going to the ball on rebounds. Often I’ve seen other Knick players have to come over & grab rebounds that Curry should have had. Will it inflate their numbers? Possibly. But are the Knicks a better rebounding team because of Curry’s ineptitude? Hardly. These are rebounds the team would have had anyway if Curry was proficient in his trade.

And in case you think the Knicks rebounds are inflated consider these. First, they are poor on defense, so there are less missed shots to go around. Second is that the stat page (my stat page) accounts for this on a team level. Third Richardson’s numbers this year are near his career peak, prior to his seasons where he became primarily an outside shooter. True Q is at the highest of his career, but again I think these are boards Curry should have had. All of Richardson’s increase is on the defensive end.

Finally another thing to consider, good rebounders don’t get double teamed & have their rebounding percentage decline. You can’t really do that in basketball consistently, because sending two players to box out a Kevin Garnett will mean a MUCH higher percentage to the person left alone. If you could double team a rebounder, you’d imagine his numbers would go down. But year after year good rebounders continue piling up strong rebounding numbers.

Of course there are other factors there…

Not sure if there’s a site that could show the Knicks rebounding when Curry is on and off the floor.

Q is averaging about 1 more rebound per game than his minutes would indicate…I would think it is probably more likely because Eddy is such a poor rebounder than him “helping others rebound”. Though I guess that is a rather cynical view – especially given the overall effectiveness of our team rebounding – but to that I’d attribute it more to guys like Lee and even Q and Balkman. When these types of players are at SF you’re probably going to be good on the boards.

Maybe in theory, but it feels like we’ve had like a half dozen fast breaks all year. I remember a game or two ago Walt Clyde almost died of shock announcing that the Knicks had beat a team in transition.

We’ve been great at rebounding this year even with Curry a below average rebounder for his position, so I do have to agree that someone must be picking up the slack and it’s at least partially the guards and small forwards.

“If Isiah announced that Mardy Collins would be the starting center until the All-Star Break, would it not be reasonable to ?nay say? that decision even before it occurred?”

sure, but the difference here is that NY actually won the first game handily with this lineup. I think it makes sense against Kaman/Brand also, not so sure about after that, especially with Boozer out. I won’t ‘nay-say’ this until we lose a game using it, though.

Is it possible that Curry is helping the team in the rebounding area even though he doesn’t get the rebounds himself? Kind of how a defensive lineman helps get a sack for a linebacker by occupying two O linemen and leaving a clear path for the linebacker?

Curry doesn’t seem to deserve much, if any, credit for Lee’s bounding and astounding considering Lee seems to get a lot of boards in traffic (though maybe Curry helps him on the offensive glass by causing double teams that free up Lee). But Curry would seem to be helping out Q-Rich. Q-Rich’s rebounding rate is far better this year than in previous years and I wonder if it’s due in part to starting next to, and playing significant minutes with, Curry.

It would seem that a rebound is a rebound and the Knicks (or any team) may even be better off having a non-center collect the rebounds since they’re more likely to bring the ball up and start the break.

The Jerome James Experiment has lasted one game and already the nay-sayers are out in full strength.

If Isiah announced that Mardy Collins would be the starting center until the All-Star Break, would it not be reasonable to “nay say” that decision even before it occurred?

James can certainly prove the naysayers wrong, though, by playing really well.