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		<title>By: iserp</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/robinson-arrested/#comment-279050</link>
		<dc:creator>iserp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 20:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You shouldn&#039;t be fooled about AI&#039;s last season. Iverson would be an upgrade over N8, and the knicks would be a playoff team for next season. Of course, i am talking about 1-year contracts. If you plan on signing Nate for 3/4 years, he is the real deal. AI doesn&#039;t have more than 1 or 2 years at max level.

However, Iverson would command the MLE, and I&#039;d rather see it spent in assets for the future (Sessions), rather than a patch to reach the playoffs this year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You shouldn&#8217;t be fooled about AI&#8217;s last season. Iverson would be an upgrade over N8, and the knicks would be a playoff team for next season. Of course, i am talking about 1-year contracts. If you plan on signing Nate for 3/4 years, he is the real deal. AI doesn&#8217;t have more than 1 or 2 years at max level.</p>
<p>However, Iverson would command the MLE, and I&#8217;d rather see it spent in assets for the future (Sessions), rather than a patch to reach the playoffs this year.</p>
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		<title>By: jon abbey</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/robinson-arrested/#comment-279049</link>
		<dc:creator>jon abbey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 19:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yeah, Iverson is a net negative, there&#039;s a reason he&#039;s still a free agent. he killed Detroit last year, imagine what he&#039;d do to a team with less of a stable core? I don&#039;t want him even if he pays NY $5 million.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, Iverson is a net negative, there&#8217;s a reason he&#8217;s still a free agent. he killed Detroit last year, imagine what he&#8217;d do to a team with less of a stable core? I don&#8217;t want him even if he pays NY $5 million.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Nelson</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/robinson-arrested/#comment-279048</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 16:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would much rather have Nate Robinson than Allen Iverson. He&#039;s a more efficient scorer, similar level playmaker, better rebounder, lower turnover... plus he&#039;s 9 years younger. While Nate&#039;s immaturity is annoying, he&#039;s not an egomaniac who has refused to play as a productive part of a team for his entire career. Maybe AI is really, really motivated, but it&#039;s hard for an old dog to learn new tricks.
If the Knicks somehow lose/move Robinson, then I wouldn&#039;t be upset to get Iverson on a one-year deal as his replacement. Their 08-09 numbers are fairly similar, except that Nate was better.

&quot;However, that is more a sad statement of the Knicks in general than a compliment to the 5?7? shooting guard.&quot;

I agree, but Nate is at least a good NBA player. He&#039;s one of the best 6th men in the league. He is not THE future of the Knicks, but he could certainly be a productive part of their future.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would much rather have Nate Robinson than Allen Iverson. He&#8217;s a more efficient scorer, similar level playmaker, better rebounder, lower turnover&#8230; plus he&#8217;s 9 years younger. While Nate&#8217;s immaturity is annoying, he&#8217;s not an egomaniac who has refused to play as a productive part of a team for his entire career. Maybe AI is really, really motivated, but it&#8217;s hard for an old dog to learn new tricks.<br />
If the Knicks somehow lose/move Robinson, then I wouldn&#8217;t be upset to get Iverson on a one-year deal as his replacement. Their 08-09 numbers are fairly similar, except that Nate was better.</p>
<p>&#8220;However, that is more a sad statement of the Knicks in general than a compliment to the 5?7? shooting guard.&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree, but Nate is at least a good NBA player. He&#8217;s one of the best 6th men in the league. He is not THE future of the Knicks, but he could certainly be a productive part of their future.</p>
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		<title>By: jbug187</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/robinson-arrested/#comment-279044</link>
		<dc:creator>jbug187</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sometimes when I just can&#039;t stand the lack of any move on Donnie&#039;s part I remind myself that this time last year I didn&#039;t think there was any way we would get out from under Z-Bo or Crawford&#039;s contracts.  If he can work the same magic with Curry this year I&#039;ll really be impressed.  If Curry can just post good numbers out of the gate we may be able to send him packing like we did Z-Bo.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes when I just can&#8217;t stand the lack of any move on Donnie&#8217;s part I remind myself that this time last year I didn&#8217;t think there was any way we would get out from under Z-Bo or Crawford&#8217;s contracts.  If he can work the same magic with Curry this year I&#8217;ll really be impressed.  If Curry can just post good numbers out of the gate we may be able to send him packing like we did Z-Bo.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ludicrous speed. Now!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ludicrous speed. Now!!</p>
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		<title>By: TDM</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/robinson-arrested/#comment-279042</link>
		<dc:creator>TDM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 23:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Nate Robinson was quite possibly the best player on the Knicks last season.&quot;

Regrettably, I&#039;d agree with that.  However, that is more a sad statement of the Knicks in general than a compliment to the 5&#039;7&quot; shooting guard.  Nate is not the future of the Knicks.  I just hope Donnie can get something for him.  My understanding is that if the Knicks offer more than the QO, and he accepts, the Knicks can trade him before the trade deadline.  If he accepts the QO, he cannot be traded.  Why don&#039;t the Knicks offer the QO + $1.00?  Or QO + $1M?  Whatever the amount over the QO, it is money well-spent in order to retain the right to trade (or package) the asset later in the season.

On a more positive note (seriously positive - as opposed to &quot;KG will not be able to contain Curry and Darko&quot; positive):

Alan Hahn&#039;s twitter on Gallo:

Alan Hahn: Source sez Gallo (in Italy now) looks fantastic. Pain-free; fitness level very high. I expect him to be the centerpiece of offense: Pt.-fwd. Over 6 hours ago.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Nate Robinson was quite possibly the best player on the Knicks last season.&#8221;</p>
<p>Regrettably, I&#8217;d agree with that.  However, that is more a sad statement of the Knicks in general than a compliment to the 5&#8217;7&#8243; shooting guard.  Nate is not the future of the Knicks.  I just hope Donnie can get something for him.  My understanding is that if the Knicks offer more than the QO, and he accepts, the Knicks can trade him before the trade deadline.  If he accepts the QO, he cannot be traded.  Why don&#8217;t the Knicks offer the QO + $1.00?  Or QO + $1M?  Whatever the amount over the QO, it is money well-spent in order to retain the right to trade (or package) the asset later in the season.</p>
<p>On a more positive note (seriously positive &#8211; as opposed to &#8220;KG will not be able to contain Curry and Darko&#8221; positive):</p>
<p>Alan Hahn&#8217;s twitter on Gallo:</p>
<p>Alan Hahn: Source sez Gallo (in Italy now) looks fantastic. Pain-free; fitness level very high. I expect him to be the centerpiece of offense: Pt.-fwd. Over 6 hours ago.</p>
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		<title>By: d-mar</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/robinson-arrested/#comment-279041</link>
		<dc:creator>d-mar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 22:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Nate Robinson was quite possibly the best player on the Knicks last season. Including David Lee, who was hurt by playing out of position all year. They don’t have far to fall, but losing Robinson would hurt.&quot;

Maybe that&#039;s why they&#039;re talking to Iverson, although word has it we&#039;re currently not in the running. Nate is an explosive, sometimes erratic scorer and really not much else (little D, OK with assists) and isn&#039;t that what AI is at this point in his career? If you let Nate go and sign AI for one year, you replace one head case with another, but with a guy who will be playing for his career, basically.

(Just a crazy thought in the middle of a Knicks news drought!)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Nate Robinson was quite possibly the best player on the Knicks last season. Including David Lee, who was hurt by playing out of position all year. They don’t have far to fall, but losing Robinson would hurt.&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe that&#8217;s why they&#8217;re talking to Iverson, although word has it we&#8217;re currently not in the running. Nate is an explosive, sometimes erratic scorer and really not much else (little D, OK with assists) and isn&#8217;t that what AI is at this point in his career? If you let Nate go and sign AI for one year, you replace one head case with another, but with a guy who will be playing for his career, basically.</p>
<p>(Just a crazy thought in the middle of a Knicks news drought!)</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Nelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 18:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t mean to be a pessimist, but the playoffs seem about 90% out of the question for the Knicks this season. I&#039;ll definitely root for it like everyone else, but realistically I just don&#039;t see any way with the current roster +/- Lee, Robinson, Sessions. 

Can you really compare Nate Robinson to Ron Artest??? You have to worry about whether Ron will be eligible to play, and when he is you have to wonder if he&#039;ll bring his A game. Nate&#039;s immaturity is a negative, but he&#039;s rarely suspended and always plays hard.

Can you compare him to Ray Allen? A 6-5 spot up shooter? If Nate Robinson didn&#039;t have the personality he does he&#039;d be (maybe) a back-up CB in the NFL rather than a valuable 6th man in the NBA. Nate can still channel that energy without the immaturity, but if Ray Allen were 5-6 I don&#039;t think he&#039;d be playing professional basketball.

&quot;I don’t think we’ll hurt much if N8 finds himself in another uniform this year.&quot;

Nate Robinson was quite possibly the best player on the Knicks last season. Including David Lee, who was hurt by playing out of position all year. They don&#039;t have far to fall, but losing Robinson would hurt.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t mean to be a pessimist, but the playoffs seem about 90% out of the question for the Knicks this season. I&#8217;ll definitely root for it like everyone else, but realistically I just don&#8217;t see any way with the current roster +/- Lee, Robinson, Sessions. </p>
<p>Can you really compare Nate Robinson to Ron Artest??? You have to worry about whether Ron will be eligible to play, and when he is you have to wonder if he&#8217;ll bring his A game. Nate&#8217;s immaturity is a negative, but he&#8217;s rarely suspended and always plays hard.</p>
<p>Can you compare him to Ray Allen? A 6-5 spot up shooter? If Nate Robinson didn&#8217;t have the personality he does he&#8217;d be (maybe) a back-up CB in the NFL rather than a valuable 6th man in the NBA. Nate can still channel that energy without the immaturity, but if Ray Allen were 5-6 I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;d be playing professional basketball.</p>
<p>&#8220;I don’t think we’ll hurt much if N8 finds himself in another uniform this year.&#8221;</p>
<p>Nate Robinson was quite possibly the best player on the Knicks last season. Including David Lee, who was hurt by playing out of position all year. They don&#8217;t have far to fall, but losing Robinson would hurt.</p>
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		<title>By: cavjam</title>
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		<dc:creator>cavjam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For one of us, driving with a suspended license would be immature. For a public persona, it enters the realm of stupid. For a public persona in contract talks, an exponent has to be added to the degree of stupid. You don&#039;t outgrow stupid.

As an aside, Douglas is going to turn out to be the steal of the draft. He&#039;s a good shooter, far better than he showed this summer. He makes smart decisions and should be able to D up almost any guard in the league. I don&#039;t think we&#039;ll hurt much if N8 finds himself in another uniform this year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For one of us, driving with a suspended license would be immature. For a public persona, it enters the realm of stupid. For a public persona in contract talks, an exponent has to be added to the degree of stupid. You don&#8217;t outgrow stupid.</p>
<p>As an aside, Douglas is going to turn out to be the steal of the draft. He&#8217;s a good shooter, far better than he showed this summer. He makes smart decisions and should be able to D up almost any guard in the league. I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;ll hurt much if N8 finds himself in another uniform this year.</p>
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		<title>By: slovene knick</title>
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		<dc:creator>slovene knick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 06:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just saw the prep game Spain:Slovenia - its two weeks before Euro championships....Spain won easily, but I was not impressed with Rubios game - he needs time(years) before he can really organize and set a pace for an NBA team - but ok. its just a prep game and hard to judge on that - here&#039; s a link to game statistics 
http://www.kzs-zveza.si/kzs/dokumenti/ESPANA_ESLOVENIA_FINAL.pdf

But i would never trade some real assets to get Rubio at this point...maybe in two years(but then it will be to late)
Right now the Rubio thing is a gamble....

Slovenia and Spain are in the same Group at Euro - so we&#039;ll see how he produces in a real game. Tonight Spain plays prep vs. Lithuania(Slovenia also lost against them the day before)Lithuania plays real fast pace offense, nice to see( they can move the ball)so the outcome of this game will be interesting to see.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just saw the prep game Spain:Slovenia &#8211; its two weeks before Euro championships&#8230;.Spain won easily, but I was not impressed with Rubios game &#8211; he needs time(years) before he can really organize and set a pace for an NBA team &#8211; but ok. its just a prep game and hard to judge on that &#8211; here&#8217; s a link to game statistics<br />
<a href="http://www.kzs-zveza.si/kzs/dokumenti/ESPANA_ESLOVENIA_FINAL.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.kzs-zveza.si/kzs/dokumenti/ESPANA_ESLOVENIA_FINAL.pdf</a></p>
<p>But i would never trade some real assets to get Rubio at this point&#8230;maybe in two years(but then it will be to late)<br />
Right now the Rubio thing is a gamble&#8230;.</p>
<p>Slovenia and Spain are in the same Group at Euro &#8211; so we&#8217;ll see how he produces in a real game. Tonight Spain plays prep vs. Lithuania(Slovenia also lost against them the day before)Lithuania plays real fast pace offense, nice to see( they can move the ball)so the outcome of this game will be interesting to see.</p>
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