Comments on: Robert and Jim and Mike go to Wall Street

By: Jim Cavan (@JPCavan)

Jim Cavan (@JPCavan) — Thu, 20 Oct 2011 18:30:37 +0000

By the way: Kudos to DS for yet another wonderfully Gonzo reporting idea. Keep ‘em comin’!

By: David Crockett

David Crockett — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 22:17:35 +0000

That was epic guys!
Great stuff!

By: BigBlueAL

BigBlueAL — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 20:49:03 +0000

Robert Im ashamed of you to be referencing Incarcerated Bob tweets. lol

By: Robert Silverman

Robert Silverman — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 19:49:14 +0000

Via IncarceratedBob: **NBA BREAKING NEWS**Source: NBA Players & Owners have settled on 3 out of the 4main issues, source says agreement 90% done! Stay tuned #IBN

By: taggart4800

taggart4800 — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 13:06:53 +0000

For different reasons. I think what was wrong with the old CBA was the really poor management decisions, combined with minor system issues. However if one team over pays an average player the whole thing snowballs because other teams cannot afford not to. I agree with the Hunter and Fisher stance in these negotiations, who seem to be trying to negotiate a realistically modified version of a system that worked. The star players ‘we’re here to save the day’ rhetoric is a little tiresome and as arrogant as some of their behavior in Free Agency. STAND and LETUSPLAY really do nothing to add credence to an argument.
The Owners are trying, like you say, to blow the whole thing up. I don’t feel this is necessary, but this is because I am just a fan of sport and resent the whole money driven side to it. I don’t fully appreciate all the financial wranglings but realistically I understand that the increased revenue should and often does lead to a better product. In the end though it is still just sport and I feel strongly that it should not be allowed to get to a situation like this.
I guess in the end I have some degree of empathy with both sides and as a result also feel a degree of disdain towards both sides.
I also believe that if a federally appointed committee was to formulate a deal with complete transparency from both sides, the outcome would be closer to the players.

By: Brian Cronin (@Brian_Cronin)

Brian Cronin (@Brian_Cronin) — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 03:00:49 +0000

I for one am not really bothered when the lockout ends or who got the best deal as I believe both are being as callus as each other. I just find the whole process a bit self indulgent, especially when the previous CBA seemed to have very little wrong with it besides really poor management decisions.

That's what I don't get. (and I mention it because I think your opinion is a common one). If you think the previous CBA had very little wrong with it (outside of poor management decisions), then why do you think both sides are equally bad? One side wants the old CBA but would accept the same CBA with a seven percent reduction in their share of the basketball related income while the other side wants to blow the whole thing up. How are they both equal here?

By: Brian Cronin (@Brian_Cronin)

Brian Cronin (@Brian_Cronin) — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 03:00:10 +0000

Great stuff, guys. Really well done.

By: taggart4800

taggart4800 — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 00:55:17 +0000

Great entertainment guys! Also good to be able to put a face to the names.
Appears to be some intense negotiating going on today but the sad thing is I am very underwhelmed. It dawned on me how cavalier and petty this whole argument is within all sports. The precedent that has been set by the last two lockouts (NBA and NFL) is not a good one and could perhaps do with a federal review of some kind. I would like to see a deadline set for independent negotiations to be completed. At which time, if negotiations are not successful, the matter is taken to an external committee who force the sides to make a deal.
There was a comment I read, from ‘A League official’, in an article on Real GM that made the point that it is not just the stadium workers and their families that get hurt by this, it also spills over to subsidiary industries in local communities. I know this is hardly revolutionary thinking but it is all too true and unnecessary.
I for one am not really bothered when the lockout ends or who got the best deal as I believe both are being as callus as each other. I just find the whole process a bit self indulgent, especially when the previous CBA seemed to have very little wrong with it besides really poor management decisions.

By: Mike Kurylo

Mike Kurylo — Tue, 18 Oct 2011 22:02:32 +0000

Jim Cavan (@JPCavan): I’m never going to live this down, am I? All I’m gonna say is I was taken out of context.

Honestly I don't think the clip was that much out of context. It was largely out of left field, with a thin thread back to his original rant. That was the only time I lost it while filming and was actually laughing so hard I was crying while holding the camera.

By: Robert Silverman

Robert Silverman — Tue, 18 Oct 2011 19:53:51 +0000

Jim’s Nets joke was in the context of the guy talking about “Social Safety Nets” for awhile. I stand by Jim and the joke.