Comments on: Reverse Pythagoras

By: Marc R

Marc R — Fri, 22 Dec 2006 19:43:08 +0000

“Antonio McDyess did pretty well after leaving New York. Trevor Ariza is doing pretty well in Orlando. Dikembe Mutombo is still a good backup in Houston.

There are also guys that had 1 good season after leaving NY – Othella, Tim Thomas, Keith Van Horn.”

McDyess didn’t play well until after his Knicks contract expired. Tough to blame Isiah for not resigning him, even if he kept him.

Other than Dikembe, the other guys are all below league average in PER, if they’re in the league.

By: DMull

DMull — Fri, 22 Dec 2006 19:13:59 +0000

I just want to pile on here and say I too (for a long time now – going back to last year with Larry Brown) hate having Jamal take the last shot.

I will also say I thought it was a great move to put the ball in Steph’s hands…and obviously that didn’t work out…but it seemed more like Curry was a little late getting out and got bumped further out than he wanted which left Steph with nowhere to really go.

I don;t like using Curry on the screen there for that reason…plus, why not use Channing? Using Eddy Steph doesn’t even have the option of giving it back to him (that far out)…but with Frye, one of them is almost definitely going to get a good look.

By: Sam SS

Sam SS — Fri, 22 Dec 2006 19:03:57 +0000

All of those statistics you came up with (even the obscure ones which are constructed to make arguments for bad players like Robinson – e.g. shooting + free throws. . .) are all offensive statistics, and I hope we can agree that the offense is not the problem with the Knicks. They’re averaging over 100 points per game, which means if they could try out some defense for more than 24 minutes a game there record would look much better. And by the way, I just found this site today, and many thanks for giving me a place to vent some frustrations where people really care about the Knicks, it’s a great site.

By: KnickerBlogger

KnickerBlogger — Fri, 22 Dec 2006 17:08:46 +0000

Nate Robinson’s PER is second among Knick guards behind Francis. He’s got the best shooting percentage (eFG), the best pts/min, the second best TS% (shooting + free throws), the second best 3p%, the second best rebounding numbers.

I’ll give you that Jamal is the Knicks best guard feeding the post, but Robinson has him beat in so many other areas. Also remember Jamal’s been in the league 7 years now, and this is only Robinson’s second.

By: Will

Will — Fri, 22 Dec 2006 17:01:53 +0000

Maybe the fight has more to do with the knicks winning. Just grit and determination to when a game than all of the different stats and rotation changes I see being mentioned.

By: Nicholas A. Chivily

Nicholas A. Chivily — Fri, 22 Dec 2006 16:39:44 +0000

I didn’t realize anyone else other than Larry Brown saw Nate for what he is.

By: Sam SS

Sam SS — Fri, 22 Dec 2006 15:54:31 +0000

To all those out there hating on Jamal Crawford, hate on Isiah (and if you’re already hating on Isiah, then hate on him some more) because as long as Jamal is in the game, and they run those type of plays (letting him dribble out the last ten second then take a deep contested shot) then he should take those shots – since those are the shots he says he feels comfortable taking. That doesn’t mean that you can’t try a new play in those situations though. Also, is Jamal (26, 9 and 6 last game) really the problem with the guard play? How about that little moron Nate Robinson. All he does is come in the game, leave his man while he is gambling for a steal that he gets once every three games, so he can go full speed down the court, lose control and run through some one for like the football player he is for the offensive foul. Yeah he hustles, but he has the worst recognition of BASKETBALL probably in the entire NBA. He couldn’t make a post-entry pass to save his life, and I know every one loves him because he short, but thats also the reason he can’t stop ANYONE on defense. If Isiah would stop putting in his little fantasy man and keep Steph, Jamal, and Francis in consistent roles and playing time, I believe the Knicks will have a much more consistent and productive backcourt, and a better win percentage. Eliminating Nate Robinson from the rotation (if not from the team and the league) would begin to solve Isiah’s problem of trying to play every one he signs every game. There is a difference between a deep bench, and a twelve man rotation. I do not believe it is a coincidence that the Knicks are 2-0 without Nate. However, despite how much I loathe Nate Robinson, who I believe is more responsible the escalation of the brawl on saturday than anyone else (he threw the first punches and he wasn’t even involved in the play) I wouldn’t mind having him on the New York football Giants. GET OUT OF THE LEAGUE NATE.

By: KnickerBlogger

KnickerBlogger — Fri, 22 Dec 2006 14:08:23 +0000

“One thing you can say about Isiah is that he hasn?t traded away anybody that has become an above average player for their new team, with the possible exception of Nazr.”

Antonio McDyess did pretty well after leaving New York. Trevor Ariza is doing pretty well in Orlando. Dikembe Mutombo is still a good backup in Houston.

There are also guys that had 1 good season after leaving NY – Othella, Tim Thomas, Keith Van Horn.

By: Dan Panorama

Dan Panorama — Fri, 22 Dec 2006 05:27:13 +0000

I can’t believe that Sweetney’s disappeared like that. He really looked like he was improving with the Knicks into a half-decent post player and now he can’t even get off the bench behind Chicago’s talented rotation. A fresh start in a new city might turn him into a better-than-average player.

By: Seth

Seth — Fri, 22 Dec 2006 02:42:51 +0000

This is true. I was worried when they gave up Milos Vujanic’s contract, Mike Sweetney, Van Horn, and Frank Williams. I’ve heard nothing of Vujanic since that deal, and the other three have faded considerably.