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		<title>By: xduckshoex</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/raptors-90-knicks-85/#comment-352889</link>
		<dc:creator>xduckshoex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 20:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@139 - It&#039;s funny that you dismiss what I said as &quot;silly&quot; when I reiterated exactly what you said.  

And there is a huge gap between &quot;deferring&quot; and &quot;running the offense&quot; so I don&#039;t know how you got &quot;you would like Melo to defer most of the game&quot; out of my belief that running the offense you&#039;re supposed to run is ultimately the best thing for the team.

This is what is nutty about the fervent defense of Melo right now: people are making up criticisms to deflect.  Somebody says that Melo could have shared the ball more, and the response is &quot;HOW CAN YOU BLAME HIM FOR THE LOSS HE SCORED SO MANY POINTS!!&quot;  Nobody blamed him for the loss, and because they&#039;re taking things to such extremes it causes them to say some silly things.

The Melo defense team here needs to take a step back and calm down a bit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@139 &#8211; It&#8217;s funny that you dismiss what I said as &#8220;silly&#8221; when I reiterated exactly what you said.  </p>
<p>And there is a huge gap between &#8220;deferring&#8221; and &#8220;running the offense&#8221; so I don&#8217;t know how you got &#8220;you would like Melo to defer most of the game&#8221; out of my belief that running the offense you&#8217;re supposed to run is ultimately the best thing for the team.</p>
<p>This is what is nutty about the fervent defense of Melo right now: people are making up criticisms to deflect.  Somebody says that Melo could have shared the ball more, and the response is &#8220;HOW CAN YOU BLAME HIM FOR THE LOSS HE SCORED SO MANY POINTS!!&#8221;  Nobody blamed him for the loss, and because they&#8217;re taking things to such extremes it causes them to say some silly things.</p>
<p>The Melo defense team here needs to take a step back and calm down a bit.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 13:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Frank look back at the first comments. Everything was about the game and maybe a bit of puzzlement about Fields&#039; +/- then a rant abotu Carmelo getting a raw deal pretty much unbidden and out of nowhere. Eeven THCJ for crying out loud didn&#039;t go off on Melo before that. Honestly some of the mentality is vaguely reminiscent of the early days here with all the &quot;they are so much more athletic&quot; &quot;they sucjed under Layden&quot; and such comments.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank look back at the first comments. Everything was about the game and maybe a bit of puzzlement about Fields&#8217; +/- then a rant abotu Carmelo getting a raw deal pretty much unbidden and out of nowhere. Eeven THCJ for crying out loud didn&#8217;t go off on Melo before that. Honestly some of the mentality is vaguely reminiscent of the early days here with all the &#8220;they are so much more athletic&#8221; &#8220;they sucjed under Layden&#8221; and such comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 12:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ruruland - not sure how long you have been following this board, but there is a population of posters here that cannot be made happy by anything. If someone has a triple double, they wonder why he had 3 turnovers.  If he scores 38 points and hits the game winner but happens to have a TS of 52 for the game, they call him a chucker. 

I get the idea that as a/the leader of the team, the buck stops with Melo.  Fine, sure good. But when the rest of the team shoots a combined 53/157 in the 3 losses, whose fault is it really?  And at what point do you stop blaming Melo for passing it to guys who - let&#039;s face it - wouldn&#039;t be playing at all on most good teams in the league?

Whatever - it&#039;s all moot at this point. Amare and Shumpert are probably back tonight, and BD will be back within a few weeks hopefully.  We&#039;ll have less of Bibby playing 15-20 min and bricking every open shot, less Bill Walker and his fear of shooting and stupid fouls/turnovers.  Of course, we&#039;ll have more Amare looking around as his man gets the offensive rebound and putback!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ruruland &#8211; not sure how long you have been following this board, but there is a population of posters here that cannot be made happy by anything. If someone has a triple double, they wonder why he had 3 turnovers.  If he scores 38 points and hits the game winner but happens to have a TS of 52 for the game, they call him a chucker. </p>
<p>I get the idea that as a/the leader of the team, the buck stops with Melo.  Fine, sure good. But when the rest of the team shoots a combined 53/157 in the 3 losses, whose fault is it really?  And at what point do you stop blaming Melo for passing it to guys who &#8211; let&#8217;s face it &#8211; wouldn&#8217;t be playing at all on most good teams in the league?</p>
<p>Whatever &#8211; it&#8217;s all moot at this point. Amare and Shumpert are probably back tonight, and BD will be back within a few weeks hopefully.  We&#8217;ll have less of Bibby playing 15-20 min and bricking every open shot, less Bill Walker and his fear of shooting and stupid fouls/turnovers.  Of course, we&#8217;ll have more Amare looking around as his man gets the offensive rebound and putback!</p>
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		<title>By: ruruland</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/raptors-90-knicks-85/#comment-352866</link>
		<dc:creator>ruruland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 09:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-352859&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-352859&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;xduckshoex&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: Well if you have cold teammates, for the good of the team you should stop giving them the ball so that they can’t warm up and then the defense can safely ignore them. That’s just smart basketball, folks.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This is silly. Melo did all that he could to keep his team in the game. Sometimes it means  taking tougher shots when guys are either hesitating to take open shots, or consistently missing them. You&#039;d like Melo to defer most of the game, regardless of the score or size of deficit, so that he can eventually take the most efficient shots... that is, under the assumption the defense eventually respects floor spacing.....

Guess what? If Melo was wired that way he wouldn&#039;t be the great player he is, certainly not the great scorer or clutch &quot;difficult&quot; shot-maker. 

But much more importantly...
Melo could have easily had a triple double last night if guys were making open shots at a respectable rate. If his teammates shoot just a mediocre percentage on those looks, who knows what his scoring efficiency and final line looks like--- certainly it would have been a win, given the defensive perofrmance.

Melo is in a no-win situation with most Knicks fans. It blows my mind that he is getting the brunt of the criticism in a game where he was clearly the best player on the floor, and clearly making the decisions a super star should make....do his best to make his teammates better and facilitate the offense and try to lead a comeback when everyone else is struggling. 

You think any other great player who is a great scorer does something different?]]></description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-352859" rel="nofollow">xduckshoex</a></strong>: Well if you have cold teammates, for the good of the team you should stop giving them the ball so that they can’t warm up and then the defense can safely ignore them. That’s just smart basketball, folks.</p></blockquote>
<p>This is silly. Melo did all that he could to keep his team in the game. Sometimes it means  taking tougher shots when guys are either hesitating to take open shots, or consistently missing them. You&#8217;d like Melo to defer most of the game, regardless of the score or size of deficit, so that he can eventually take the most efficient shots&#8230; that is, under the assumption the defense eventually respects floor spacing&#8230;..</p>
<p>Guess what? If Melo was wired that way he wouldn&#8217;t be the great player he is, certainly not the great scorer or clutch &#8220;difficult&#8221; shot-maker. </p>
<p>But much more importantly&#8230;<br />
Melo could have easily had a triple double last night if guys were making open shots at a respectable rate. If his teammates shoot just a mediocre percentage on those looks, who knows what his scoring efficiency and final line looks like&#8212; certainly it would have been a win, given the defensive perofrmance.</p>
<p>Melo is in a no-win situation with most Knicks fans. It blows my mind that he is getting the brunt of the criticism in a game where he was clearly the best player on the floor, and clearly making the decisions a super star should make&#8230;.do his best to make his teammates better and facilitate the offense and try to lead a comeback when everyone else is struggling. </p>
<p>You think any other great player who is a great scorer does something different?</p>
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		<title>By: ruruland</title>
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		<dc:creator>ruruland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 09:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-352858&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-352858&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;xduckshoex&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: I don’t know why this comparison keeps coming up. Durant does not initiate the offense for his team, he comes off screens in catch and shoot or catch an attack scenarios more than anything. You might as well be saying “oranges are more citrusy than apples!”.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
 

Melo never initiated the offense in Denver yet he averaged higher assist numbers and assist percentage every year Durant&#039;s been in the league. They are both high-usage small-fowards with, granted, different skill-sets (with Melo being the better passer). However, this notion that Melo does not pass enough, given his traditional role in the offense, is far fetched when compared to 3s and iso 4s who do the same thing...]]></description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-352858" rel="nofollow">xduckshoex</a></strong>: I don’t know why this comparison keeps coming up. Durant does not initiate the offense for his team, he comes off screens in catch and shoot or catch an attack scenarios more than anything. You might as well be saying “oranges are more citrusy than apples!”.</p></blockquote>
<p>Melo never initiated the offense in Denver yet he averaged higher assist numbers and assist percentage every year Durant&#8217;s been in the league. They are both high-usage small-fowards with, granted, different skill-sets (with Melo being the better passer). However, this notion that Melo does not pass enough, given his traditional role in the offense, is far fetched when compared to 3s and iso 4s who do the same thing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cronin (@Brian_Cronin)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Cronin (@Brian_Cronin)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 07:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was going to post about Portland, as well. They fascinate me because they probably have the oddest starting lineup in the league, in that not a single one of their starters is what you would typically term a &quot;below average player.&quot; They have one star player (Aldridge) surrounded by four good supporting players and no problem. If you look around the league, it&#039;s rare to have a team be &lt;b&gt;that&lt;/b&gt; solid in the starting lineup. There&#039;s usually oen player that makes you say, &quot;Yeah, that&#039;s their weakness.&quot; Portland doesn&#039;t have that guy and they have decent to good players off of the bench (Batum, Crawford, Thomas, Smith).  

What I suspect, though, is that their short rotation will eventually hurt them. You can&#039;t rely &lt;b&gt;that&lt;/b&gt; much on your starters, not in a shortened season like this. And especially when your center platoon is a combined 200 years old. 

As for Atlanta, the wild card for them was always going to be Teague. If he really made &quot;the leap,&quot; like he looked like he was ready to do in the Playoffs, then they were going to be a good team. However, even more importantly, it seems like in this shortened season, veteran teams have done better than teams still figuring things out (which makes logical sense, of course, as the lack of training camp would hurt teams that haven&#039;t practiced together more than teams that have). I think that that was something that lots of folks (myself included) discounted. However, look at Atlanta and Orlando - both teams that people slept on, but both teams that were bringing back their entire starting lineups from last season.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was going to post about Portland, as well. They fascinate me because they probably have the oddest starting lineup in the league, in that not a single one of their starters is what you would typically term a &#8220;below average player.&#8221; They have one star player (Aldridge) surrounded by four good supporting players and no problem. If you look around the league, it&#8217;s rare to have a team be <b>that</b> solid in the starting lineup. There&#8217;s usually oen player that makes you say, &#8220;Yeah, that&#8217;s their weakness.&#8221; Portland doesn&#8217;t have that guy and they have decent to good players off of the bench (Batum, Crawford, Thomas, Smith).  </p>
<p>What I suspect, though, is that their short rotation will eventually hurt them. You can&#8217;t rely <b>that</b> much on your starters, not in a shortened season like this. And especially when your center platoon is a combined 200 years old. </p>
<p>As for Atlanta, the wild card for them was always going to be Teague. If he really made &#8220;the leap,&#8221; like he looked like he was ready to do in the Playoffs, then they were going to be a good team. However, even more importantly, it seems like in this shortened season, veteran teams have done better than teams still figuring things out (which makes logical sense, of course, as the lack of training camp would hurt teams that haven&#8217;t practiced together more than teams that have). I think that that was something that lots of folks (myself included) discounted. However, look at Atlanta and Orlando &#8211; both teams that people slept on, but both teams that were bringing back their entire starting lineups from last season.</p>
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		<title>By: latke</title>
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		<dc:creator>latke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 05:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting analysis of the heat&#039;s new offense, which borrows heavily from SSOL with some modifications for Miami&#039;s lack of 3 point shooters: http://analyzetheoffense.wordpress.com/2012/01/03/281/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting analysis of the heat&#8217;s new offense, which borrows heavily from SSOL with some modifications for Miami&#8217;s lack of 3 point shooters: <a href="http://analyzetheoffense.wordpress.com/2012/01/03/281/" rel="nofollow">http://analyzetheoffense.wordpress.com/2012/01/03/281/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Caleb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caleb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 04:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@128 he has the same assist rate as Durant this year.. both above average, by a bit. 

@129 Yeah, for whatever reason, the Hawks look awesome - better than anyone in the league, so far. Not that I expect them to dominate in May, but you have to wonder - with the schedule so front-loaded, could they jump out front and end up with that #3 seed, or even #2?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@128 he has the same assist rate as Durant this year.. both above average, by a bit. </p>
<p>@129 Yeah, for whatever reason, the Hawks look awesome &#8211; better than anyone in the league, so far. Not that I expect them to dominate in May, but you have to wonder &#8211; with the schedule so front-loaded, could they jump out front and end up with that #3 seed, or even #2?</p>
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		<title>By: hoolahoop</title>
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		<dc:creator>hoolahoop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 03:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Four of the nine guys on that team (that played tonight) . . .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Four of the nine guys on that team (that played tonight) . . .</p>
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		<title>By: hoolahoop</title>
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		<dc:creator>hoolahoop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 03:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[sidenote:
Portland (4-1) beats OKC to move into first place. Four of the nine guys on that team are former knicks (felton, j. crawford, camby and k. thomas)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sidenote:<br />
Portland (4-1) beats OKC to move into first place. Four of the nine guys on that team are former knicks (felton, j. crawford, camby and k. thomas)</p>
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