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		<title>By: BigBlueAL</title>
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		<dc:creator>BigBlueAL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2011 02:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Im surprised Z didnt mention Amar&#039;e when talking about the contracts given out last year lol]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im surprised Z didnt mention Amar&#8217;e when talking about the contracts given out last year lol</p>
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		<title>By: jon abbey</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/put-on-for-your-city/#comment-346893</link>
		<dc:creator>jon abbey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 21:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Vernon Wells is terrible, but at least he&#039;s out there trying, and at least he&#039;s not taking up valuable cap space. Pavano is a better example, but I think the cap makes it a much bigger problem in the NBA. Marbury is another one who just stopped trying with tens of millions of dollars left on his deal, and there&#039;s no recourse.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vernon Wells is terrible, but at least he&#8217;s out there trying, and at least he&#8217;s not taking up valuable cap space. Pavano is a better example, but I think the cap makes it a much bigger problem in the NBA. Marbury is another one who just stopped trying with tens of millions of dollars left on his deal, and there&#8217;s no recourse.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cronin (@Brian_Cronin)</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/put-on-for-your-city/#comment-346892</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Cronin (@Brian_Cronin)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 20:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Obviously, I agree, Z. 

And really, I totally understand the logic of arguing, &quot;We are too stupid not to pay Drew Gooden a long-term guaranteed money deal, so we need rules to protect ourselves from our stupidity.&quot; I totally get that. I don&#039;t begrudge the owners for asking for such things. My bone of contention is the notion that the &lt;em&gt;players&lt;/em&gt; should want these restrictions. And moreover, the notion that the players &lt;b&gt;do&lt;/b&gt; think that these restrictions are good for them, they just don&#039;t want to publicly admit it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously, I agree, Z. </p>
<p>And really, I totally understand the logic of arguing, &#8220;We are too stupid not to pay Drew Gooden a long-term guaranteed money deal, so we need rules to protect ourselves from our stupidity.&#8221; I totally get that. I don&#8217;t begrudge the owners for asking for such things. My bone of contention is the notion that the <em>players</em> should want these restrictions. And moreover, the notion that the players <b>do</b> think that these restrictions are good for them, they just don&#8217;t want to publicly admit it.</p>
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		<title>By: Z</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/put-on-for-your-city/#comment-346891</link>
		<dc:creator>Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 20:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: Players being overpaid--

Why, exactly, are they overpaid? Isn&#039;t it because owners agree to pay them what they do? Did anyone force Otis Smith to give Rashard Lewis $118 million dollars? Did Magic owner Richard DeVos not have to okay they contract before it was signed?

Perhaps I only have a third grade understanding of all this, but how on earth can the owners be winning the PR battle in this? Does nobody remember July 1st, 2010? A day when career journeyman Drew Gooden got offered a 5 year $32 million contract that set in motion the most obscene public meat-market in sports history? 

Darko Milicic, a career-scrub, canceled his move back to Serbia when his agent shocked him with the news that a real life NBA team was actually going to pay him 20 million guaranteed dollars to suck at basketball for the next 4 years?

Rudy Gay, a middling talent playing in the league&#039;s smallest market, gets 5 years and $82 million?

Joe Johnson, a barely-recognizable &quot;superstar&quot; already several years past his prime, signs the mother of all albatross contracts, getting 6 years and $118 million?

And these were just the first 4 contracts agreed to!

It&#039;s no wonder that the owners are having buyers remorse, but, come on... If you can&#039;t afford Rudy Gay at $17 million a year, don&#039;t buy him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Players being overpaid&#8211;</p>
<p>Why, exactly, are they overpaid? Isn&#8217;t it because owners agree to pay them what they do? Did anyone force Otis Smith to give Rashard Lewis $118 million dollars? Did Magic owner Richard DeVos not have to okay they contract before it was signed?</p>
<p>Perhaps I only have a third grade understanding of all this, but how on earth can the owners be winning the PR battle in this? Does nobody remember July 1st, 2010? A day when career journeyman Drew Gooden got offered a 5 year $32 million contract that set in motion the most obscene public meat-market in sports history? </p>
<p>Darko Milicic, a career-scrub, canceled his move back to Serbia when his agent shocked him with the news that a real life NBA team was actually going to pay him 20 million guaranteed dollars to suck at basketball for the next 4 years?</p>
<p>Rudy Gay, a middling talent playing in the league&#8217;s smallest market, gets 5 years and $82 million?</p>
<p>Joe Johnson, a barely-recognizable &#8220;superstar&#8221; already several years past his prime, signs the mother of all albatross contracts, getting 6 years and $118 million?</p>
<p>And these were just the first 4 contracts agreed to!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s no wonder that the owners are having buyers remorse, but, come on&#8230; If you can&#8217;t afford Rudy Gay at $17 million a year, don&#8217;t buy him.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cronin (@Brian_Cronin)</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/put-on-for-your-city/#comment-346890</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Cronin (@Brian_Cronin)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 19:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The game is doing quite well with the fans with overpaid players. They just had their best season in years. The ratings for the playoffs were actually &lt;b&gt;up&lt;/b&gt; the past two seasons. And the NBA Finals was just won by a team filled to the brim with overpaid veteran players. This does not mean, of course, that players should check out if they get long term deals. Of course they shouldn&#039;t. But A. those players are the outliers, not the standard and B. it sure doesn&#039;t seem to be affecting the fans much. 

Now, of course, while fans don&#039;t care that they guys are overpaid, they similarly don&#039;t carry if the players get screwed by the owners in negotiations, which leads to the current situation where the players have no support from the general public because no one cares how much they get paid. Mediocre players getting the mid-level doesn&#039;t piss people off, but the elimination of the mid-level doesn&#039;t piss people off, either.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The game is doing quite well with the fans with overpaid players. They just had their best season in years. The ratings for the playoffs were actually <b>up</b> the past two seasons. And the NBA Finals was just won by a team filled to the brim with overpaid veteran players. This does not mean, of course, that players should check out if they get long term deals. Of course they shouldn&#8217;t. But A. those players are the outliers, not the standard and B. it sure doesn&#8217;t seem to be affecting the fans much. </p>
<p>Now, of course, while fans don&#8217;t care that they guys are overpaid, they similarly don&#8217;t carry if the players get screwed by the owners in negotiations, which leads to the current situation where the players have no support from the general public because no one cares how much they get paid. Mediocre players getting the mid-level doesn&#8217;t piss people off, but the elimination of the mid-level doesn&#8217;t piss people off, either.</p>
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		<title>By: cgreene</title>
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		<dc:creator>cgreene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 15:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@46 I didn&#039;t interpret what Simmons said as &quot;less money would be better for them and they know it&quot;.  I interpreted it as they know that there are way too many instances where either mediocre players are way overpaid like Rashard Lewis or that some players get a pay day and stop trying both of which are true.  The players understand that this is bad for the game and can kill the health of a franchise.  That&#039;s what he&#039;s saying and he&#039;s right.  They do realize that and they will end up giving on contract years and structure.  It&#039;s a foregone conclusion.  This will be better for the league.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@46 I didn&#8217;t interpret what Simmons said as &#8220;less money would be better for them and they know it&#8221;.  I interpreted it as they know that there are way too many instances where either mediocre players are way overpaid like Rashard Lewis or that some players get a pay day and stop trying both of which are true.  The players understand that this is bad for the game and can kill the health of a franchise.  That&#8217;s what he&#8217;s saying and he&#8217;s right.  They do realize that and they will end up giving on contract years and structure.  It&#8217;s a foregone conclusion.  This will be better for the league.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cronin (@Brian_Cronin)</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/put-on-for-your-city/#comment-346884</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Cronin (@Brian_Cronin)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 10:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are plenty of baseball players who have had similar situations to Eddy Curry. Look at Vernon Wells, for a current example. Heck, people complained about Carl Pavano in much the same way fans complained about Eddy Curry. No one stopped watching the Yankees and/or the Knicks because of either player.  And surely no player looked at Curry&#039;s situation and said, &quot;Wow, look at what happened to Eddy Curry. We better cut down on the lengths of our guaranteed contract because Eddy Curry is such a loser.&quot; And that is what Simmons is arguing - that players would be better off if they got less guaranteed years because it would give them more motivation to work hard. How patronizing of a view is that? That not only would less guaranteed money be better for them, but that they know it and just won&#039;t admit it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are plenty of baseball players who have had similar situations to Eddy Curry. Look at Vernon Wells, for a current example. Heck, people complained about Carl Pavano in much the same way fans complained about Eddy Curry. No one stopped watching the Yankees and/or the Knicks because of either player.  And surely no player looked at Curry&#8217;s situation and said, &#8220;Wow, look at what happened to Eddy Curry. We better cut down on the lengths of our guaranteed contract because Eddy Curry is such a loser.&#8221; And that is what Simmons is arguing &#8211; that players would be better off if they got less guaranteed years because it would give them more motivation to work hard. How patronizing of a view is that? That not only would less guaranteed money be better for them, but that they know it and just won&#8217;t admit it.</p>
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		<title>By: jon abbey</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/put-on-for-your-city/#comment-346883</link>
		<dc:creator>jon abbey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 06:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-346879&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-346879&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Brian&#032;Cronin&#032;&#040;&#064;Brian&#095;Cronin&#041;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: 
Man, I continue to be irritated by Bill Simmons’ “it is everyone’s fault!” position on the lockout. I mean, I guess if he stuck to “the players are handling the public relations of this situation terribly” as a criticism of the players, then fair enough, but he continues to seriously argue that players getting overpaid is something that the players should feel responsible for. 

That is so woefully unsupportable that while I am surprised/disappointed that he actually made the point, I’m even more surprised/disappointed that he seems to think that this is something that the players should cop to as though it were an obvious truth. Players were getting overpaid in 2010-11 and it was a great season. Players have been getting overpaid basically as soon as we had real free agency in the early 1990s (players were overpaid as soon as there was free agency at all, but “overpaid” back then meant a player got $500,000 when he was only a $200,000 player, not like the millions players began to make during the 1990s) and no one has yet given a shit (don’t get me wrong, people complain about how much players make, but it is a general “they get paid millions to play a game!” sort of complaint that all professional athletes get). It is a non-issue. 

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m wholeheartedly with the players in general, but don&#039;t agree with you at all on this. it&#039;s not exactly that they&#039;re overpaid, it&#039;s situations like Eddy Curry, where he didn&#039;t even try for the last three obscenely paid seasons (going from memory) and he faced zero repercussions and just kept collecting massive paychecks. this never happens in baseball or football.]]></description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-346879" rel="nofollow">Brian&#032;Cronin&#032;&#040;&#064;Brian&#095;Cronin&#041;</a></strong>:<br />
Man, I continue to be irritated by Bill Simmons’ “it is everyone’s fault!” position on the lockout. I mean, I guess if he stuck to “the players are handling the public relations of this situation terribly” as a criticism of the players, then fair enough, but he continues to seriously argue that players getting overpaid is something that the players should feel responsible for. </p>
<p>That is so woefully unsupportable that while I am surprised/disappointed that he actually made the point, I’m even more surprised/disappointed that he seems to think that this is something that the players should cop to as though it were an obvious truth. Players were getting overpaid in 2010-11 and it was a great season. Players have been getting overpaid basically as soon as we had real free agency in the early 1990s (players were overpaid as soon as there was free agency at all, but “overpaid” back then meant a player got $500,000 when he was only a $200,000 player, not like the millions players began to make during the 1990s) and no one has yet given a shit (don’t get me wrong, people complain about how much players make, but it is a general “they get paid millions to play a game!” sort of complaint that all professional athletes get). It is a non-issue. </p>
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<p>I&#8217;m wholeheartedly with the players in general, but don&#8217;t agree with you at all on this. it&#8217;s not exactly that they&#8217;re overpaid, it&#8217;s situations like Eddy Curry, where he didn&#8217;t even try for the last three obscenely paid seasons (going from memory) and he faced zero repercussions and just kept collecting massive paychecks. this never happens in baseball or football.</p>
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		<title>By: John Kenney</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Kenney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 03:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Melo&#039;s tweet of &quot;ROTFL LMFAO&quot; was more likely attached to shock at his ranking as opposed to any charitable work he did. I&#039;m 99.9% sure of this.

And Brian, health does have to be factored in, but I don&#039;t think Amar&#039;e&#039;s problems represent a permanent deterioration in his skills/ ability to use them (as with Duncan) but rather a temporary issue created by his minutes that hopefully would not exist next season.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Melo&#8217;s tweet of &#8220;ROTFL LMFAO&#8221; was more likely attached to shock at his ranking as opposed to any charitable work he did. I&#8217;m 99.9% sure of this.</p>
<p>And Brian, health does have to be factored in, but I don&#8217;t think Amar&#8217;e's problems represent a permanent deterioration in his skills/ ability to use them (as with Duncan) but rather a temporary issue created by his minutes that hopefully would not exist next season.</p>
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		<title>By: BigBlueAL</title>
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		<dc:creator>BigBlueAL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Oct 2011 23:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-346880&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-346880&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Zach&#032;Horst&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: I am not positive, but I’m pretty sure this wasn’t concerning his rank, but rather the segment they did on him about his involvement in Puerto Rico with building basketball courts. It aired a few minutes before he said it, and his previous tweet was also referencing it, if I remember correctly.


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If you read the NBA rank page they had this tweet in the reaction section under Melo&#039;s page so ESPN thought this tweet was referring to their ranking.  Thats where I saw it initially even though I do follow Melo on Twitter but didnt see the tweet when he initially tweeted it lol]]></description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-346880" rel="nofollow">Zach&#032;Horst</a></strong>: I am not positive, but I’m pretty sure this wasn’t concerning his rank, but rather the segment they did on him about his involvement in Puerto Rico with building basketball courts. It aired a few minutes before he said it, and his previous tweet was also referencing it, if I remember correctly.</p>
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<p>If you read the NBA rank page they had this tweet in the reaction section under Melo&#8217;s page so ESPN thought this tweet was referring to their ranking.  Thats where I saw it initially even though I do follow Melo on Twitter but didnt see the tweet when he initially tweeted it lol</p>
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