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Thursday, September 18, 2014

Preseason Game Thread: Knicks v. Celtics, Live Free or Die or Die Edition

Back to back preseason games?

The third in four nights?

In New Hampshire, of all places?

Alas, our favorite scrivener of that faraway mystic land, Brother Jimmy Cavanicus the Just will not be leaving his combination monastery/artisanal maple syrup manufacturing concern to attend in person, for reasons that to date he has only whispered to the birds, butterflies and grubworms that oddly appear in his footprints. Also, it seams that this torrid schedule of games-that-don’t-count has taken an equal toll on our weary, wanderlusting ‘Bockers. Messrs. Chandler, Anthony, Udrih, Felton and World Peace will be taking a brief sabbatical, perhaps to intermingle with the local gentry, attend a craft fair or two and possibly take in the autumnal foliage, which I hear is positively spectacular this time of the year.

But of course, our concern is for the right noble gentleman that shall be plying their trade. This is what makes preseason hoops actually fun, as opposed to making offerings to various deities that no one shreds a ligament or is ripped limb from limb by Woodson’s emerging full beard.

Given the maladies that have kept a chunk of the regular season rotation off the court, the Knicks are a tad thin at the moment. That means we’ll get to see some serious PT from the starters — Prigioni, Hardaway, Shumpert, Powell, and Bargnani as well as major backup minutes for Aldrich, CJ Leslie, Ike Diogu, Douglas Robers and, last but certainly not least…TOURE’ MURRY!

So, our big question for the evening: Who do y’all think will have a Copeland-esque, totally unexpected 35-point explosion to throttle the dastardly C’s? I think you can guess by the all-caps above who I’m pulling for.

Enjoy the game!

18 comments on “Preseason Game Thread: Knicks v. Celtics, Live Free or Die or Die Edition

  1. BigBlueAL

    Finally am able to watch an entire Knicks pre-season game this week and they are sitting most of their starters and NBATV is showing the Celtics broadcast to boot. This sucks lol.

  2. BigBlueAL

    Dave Cowens is the color man tonight on the Celtics broadcast and he has no clue who Prigs is. Has called him that kid and that guy so far.

  3. coyle022

    Bargnani looks horrendous. And I am somewhat pro-Barnagni as far as his fit on this team. But oh boy if Carmelo gets injured this year this team may be unwatchable. Bargnani also has no instincts defensively/rebounding wise. It’s like he’s drilled to his spot when the shot goes up and has no sense of anticipating/hustling to get to the spot where the rebound will carom to. Unexcusable when you are 7 feet tall

  4. thenamestsam

    Can anyone explain to me what the point of scheduling a back to back during the preseason is if you’re not going to play the starters? I mean if you don’t want a back to back…just don’t schedule one, right? Weird.

    Also agreed on Bargs. As someone who was slightly pro- the trade I am not impressed by the early returns. He seems like a guy who takes a lot of bad shots no matter who he’s on the floor with, not because he has to but just because he doesn’t know what’s a good shot and what isn’t.

  5. Kahnzy

    BigBlueAL:
    Dave Cowens is the color man tonight on the Celtics broadcast and he has no clue who Prigs is.Has called him that kid and that guy so far.

    At least he’s better than their usual guy. After watching a lot of League Pass last year, I have to say that the Celtic crew was one of the homerest of homers.

  6. Kahnzy

    BigBlueAL:
    Ike Diogu looks like a skinnier version of Michael Sweetney.

    Really? From the right angle, I thought he looked like a smaller Ewing. Given that for most of that first half we fielded what could make up the better part of a D-League All-Star team, he’s taking advantage and having a decent game. If he could convert a few more of those +1′s, I’d be ready to give him the Copeland award right now.

  7. BigBlueAL

    All these technical fouls on the delay of game stuff is annoying. Although its helping Bargs pad his stats with all these extra FT’s lol.

  8. SeeWhyDee77

    Aldrich is definitely the backup 5. I’m sold. I like what he brings. But if Tyson ever goes down..yup we’re in the trouble. I’m definitely ok with the team goin into the season with a center triumvirate of Tyson-Aldrich-Tyler. Outside of those 3 we have other guys who can play the 5 and 4. If the training staff can manage the health and Woodson can manage the minutes I think the big man rotation is fine. Definitely better than last season. Bargnani hasn’t found his shot, but I like the fact that he’s aggressive in his role. It’s preseason- keep shooting, the shots will fall. I hope his inaccuracy right now is a result of him getting his arm back in gear after the elbow injury. It looks like that might be the case. This team at full strength (knock on wood) is gonna be a joy to watch. In years past, when the Knicks fielded a good team, the product wasn’t necessarily appealing to the eyes. I think this team the past season and coming season has the pieces to combine effectiveness with an entertaining style. So many interchangeable parts and enough shooting and point guard savvy to have high hopes. It looks like all our rotation guys can play well enough for fans not to worry about a whole lot of drop off from 1st unit to 2nd

  9. Z-man

    coyle022:
    Bargnani looks horrendous. And I am somewhat pro-Barnagni as far as his fit on this team. But oh boy if Carmelo gets injured this year this team may be unwatchable. Bargnani also has no instincts defensively/rebounding wise. It’s like he’s drilled to his spot when the shot goes up and has no sense of anticipating/hustling to get to the spot where the rebound will carom to. Unexcusable when you are 7 feet tall

    thenamestsam: Also agreed on Bargs. As someone who was slightly pro- the trade I am not impressed by the early returns. He seems like a guy who takes a lot of bad shots no matter who he’s on the floor with, not because he has to but just because he doesn’t know what’s a good shot and what isn’t.

    Yeah, Bargnani sucks (11 points on 8 shots) especially compared to Shump (6 points on 9 shots) TH2 (9 points on 16 shots) and Prigioni (0 points on 4 shots, 1 assist). Seriously, why can’t we just say that this is the 3rd road game in 4 nights? Come on, guys, if we are gonna trash anyone, let’s trash everyone who played poorly, not just the anointed KB lightening rod.

  10. CaptainB

    The good news about the Bargnani trade is that every game is no longer a referendum on Carmelo Anthony. The bad news is that it is for Bargnani now.

  11. BigBlueAL

    To me this is being way overblown because I dont think Bargs will be getting anywhere near enough minutes to make a major impact either way. He wont be getting James White starter’s minutes but not sure he will be getting much more than 20 mins/g. There is too much depth on this team for Bargs to be getting 25-30 mins/g.

    Hell not sure he will even be a starter on opening night.

  12. Kahnzy

    I think the Knicks are at least committed to giving the Melo-Bargs pairing a long test run to see if there’s anything worthwhile there. The only question is how long they’ll let it run before pulling the plug. Or then again the situation could surprise everyone (or at least most everyone) and turn out to be a plus. I have my doubts like most of you, but one cannot be a Knick fan for 20+ years without having at least some irrational optimism.

    3 pre-season games is a far cry from 20, 30, 40 games into the regular season; but that being said Bargs is painfully sluggish in almost everything he does. This is one of those things that I’m really hoping to be wrong about.

  13. Brian Cronin

    Preseason performance really doesn’t mean anything. I’d hold off judgment on any of these players until they actually play in real games.

  14. coyle022

    To be fair I just brought up his rebounding/defense. We know what he can do shooting the ball and spreading the floor. But after suffering severe flashbacks to the Indiana series while playing 2k this summer (“SOMEBODY. GRAB. THE GOD-DAMNED REBOUND!!!!!!!”) it looks like the T-5000 model (or whatever the highest # is) of Tyson Chandler needs to show up and stay healthy this year for us to compete for a championship. Bargs simply cannot fight for a ball in mid flight. Guys like Reggie Evans have made decade long careers out of hustle plays and we have a guy who is allergic to these types of extra efforts. Not that it really makes a difference because look at those pre-season efficiency numbers!

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