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		<title>By: daaarn</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/pre-orlando-mock-draft-v-10-picks-15-30/#comment-246552</link>
		<dc:creator>daaarn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 02:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[looks like NBADraft.net updated their mock; they have us taking Randolph now, w/ Mayo and Love both jumping up and B. Lopez dropping down to #9]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>looks like NBADraft.net updated their mock; they have us taking Randolph now, w/ Mayo and Love both jumping up and B. Lopez dropping down to #9</p>
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		<title>By: caleb</title>
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		<dc:creator>caleb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 15:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not against re-signing Jones, but if you could $2m from us, or from Detroit, what would YOU do? 

Agree it&#039;s pretty rare for players to retire and leave money on the table. The only candidate I can remotely think of is Shaq -- let&#039;s say this year goes badly. Does he really want to do it again in 2009-2010? You&#039;d think he&#039;d be rich enough already. (but then there&#039;s that divorce to pay for...)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not against re-signing Jones, but if you could $2m from us, or from Detroit, what would YOU do? </p>
<p>Agree it&#8217;s pretty rare for players to retire and leave money on the table. The only candidate I can remotely think of is Shaq &#8212; let&#8217;s say this year goes badly. Does he really want to do it again in 2009-2010? You&#8217;d think he&#8217;d be rich enough already. (but then there&#8217;s that divorce to pay for&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Z</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/pre-orlando-mock-draft-v-10-picks-15-30/#comment-246424</link>
		<dc:creator>Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 15:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m pretty sure that retired players count towards the cap, whether it&#039;s due to medical reasons or not. If the retirement is for medical reasons, then a third party pays the bill on it-- that is the only difference, and, as fans and not owners, it doesn&#039;t effect us at all. 

Usually players only retire during their contract if it is because they can&#039;t physically compete any longer. I suppose Bison Dele would be an example of retiring during the course of one&#039;s contract. I believe in that case he walked away from the millions he was still owed (and presumably that money came off the cap).

&quot;we don’t even know if Fred Jones wants to re-sign.&quot;

He won&#039;t get offered $6 million for next year from anyone. And probably wouldn&#039;t get a multi years deal either. I don&#039;t want to re-sign him, necessarily, but if we want an extra salary to throw into a trade, his would be more useful that Jerome James&#039;. If Walsh doesn&#039;t want to compromise the team&#039;s long term salary flexibility by using the mid-level exemption, then buying out James and re-signing Jones for one year would be a fiscally responsible move.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure that retired players count towards the cap, whether it&#8217;s due to medical reasons or not. If the retirement is for medical reasons, then a third party pays the bill on it&#8211; that is the only difference, and, as fans and not owners, it doesn&#8217;t effect us at all. </p>
<p>Usually players only retire during their contract if it is because they can&#8217;t physically compete any longer. I suppose Bison Dele would be an example of retiring during the course of one&#8217;s contract. I believe in that case he walked away from the millions he was still owed (and presumably that money came off the cap).</p>
<p>&#8220;we don’t even know if Fred Jones wants to re-sign.&#8221;</p>
<p>He won&#8217;t get offered $6 million for next year from anyone. And probably wouldn&#8217;t get a multi years deal either. I don&#8217;t want to re-sign him, necessarily, but if we want an extra salary to throw into a trade, his would be more useful that Jerome James&#8217;. If Walsh doesn&#8217;t want to compromise the team&#8217;s long term salary flexibility by using the mid-level exemption, then buying out James and re-signing Jones for one year would be a fiscally responsible move.</p>
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		<title>By: caleb</title>
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		<dc:creator>caleb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 14:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[p.p.s. I&#039;m not really against dumping James if there&#039;s a player who might fill his spot -- I mean, he&#039;s totally useless on the court and using the $$ to balance a trade, is a long-shot. 

But Collins is 99.5% as useless... and we don&#039;t even know if Fred Jones wants to re-sign. Would you?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>p.p.s. I&#8217;m not really against dumping James if there&#8217;s a player who might fill his spot &#8212; I mean, he&#8217;s totally useless on the court and using the $$ to balance a trade, is a long-shot. </p>
<p>But Collins is 99.5% as useless&#8230; and we don&#8217;t even know if Fred Jones wants to re-sign. Would you?</p>
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		<title>By: caleb</title>
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		<dc:creator>caleb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 14:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[re: that last post -- didn&#039;t Portland just pull some shenanigan involving medical retirement, to get Darius Miles off their cap? Does anyone know what I&#039;m talking about?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: that last post &#8212; didn&#8217;t Portland just pull some shenanigan involving medical retirement, to get Darius Miles off their cap? Does anyone know what I&#8217;m talking about?</p>
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		<title>By: caleb</title>
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		<dc:creator>caleb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 14:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;If he takes a medical retirement, then his roster spot opens up and the insurance company pays the remainder of his deal, but it doesn’t come off the salary cap until the deal sunsets.&quot;

Are you sure about this? This is the one scenario I wasn&#039;t sure about. 

Also, if a player just up and retires to spend more time in his family -- he&#039;s not getting paid, so I assume he would come off the cap. Right? 
Of course JJ isn&#039;t giving up any paydays, so this is purely hypothetical. (Or maybe Isaih can send Mardy Collins over to his house, tell him to goon it up, make him an offer he can&#039;t refuse).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If he takes a medical retirement, then his roster spot opens up and the insurance company pays the remainder of his deal, but it doesn’t come off the salary cap until the deal sunsets.&#8221;</p>
<p>Are you sure about this? This is the one scenario I wasn&#8217;t sure about. </p>
<p>Also, if a player just up and retires to spend more time in his family &#8212; he&#8217;s not getting paid, so I assume he would come off the cap. Right?<br />
Of course JJ isn&#8217;t giving up any paydays, so this is purely hypothetical. (Or maybe Isaih can send Mardy Collins over to his house, tell him to goon it up, make him an offer he can&#8217;t refuse).</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 14:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thumbs up or thumbs down to the new &quot;Thumbs up or thumps down&quot; icon by each post?

My vote is thumb down.  We have always done a good job of giving praise or critique through our posts.  When we respond to a post we generally provide reasoning and detail.  I find the icons distracting and I think they will not foster the level of discussion I have grown accustomed to here.  

Dear Lord, when did I get so old?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thumbs up or thumbs down to the new &#8220;Thumbs up or thumps down&#8221; icon by each post?</p>
<p>My vote is thumb down.  We have always done a good job of giving praise or critique through our posts.  When we respond to a post we generally provide reasoning and detail.  I find the icons distracting and I think they will not foster the level of discussion I have grown accustomed to here.  </p>
<p>Dear Lord, when did I get so old?</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Nelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 09:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;In theory, he would take the buyout if he thought he could sign another deal worth more than $2 million for the next two years&quot;

Or if he could invest the money in anything that would give him higher than a 20% return over the next two years. Money today is more valuable to him than money over the next two years.

&quot;If he takes a medical retirement, then his roster spot opens up and the insurance company pays the remainder of his deal, but it doesn’t come off the salary cap until the deal sunsets.&quot;

You have to go through a series of medical examinations to be eligible for medical retirement. For example, the bones in Eric Snow&#039;s knees rub together, so he&#039;s physically unable to play.

&quot;If James is bought out, opening a roster spot, Fred Jones can be re-signed for the full mid-level exemption for one year. &quot;

Fred Jones played alright last season, but I don&#039;t think he&#039;s the first free agent I&#039;d try to sign.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In theory, he would take the buyout if he thought he could sign another deal worth more than $2 million for the next two years&#8221;</p>
<p>Or if he could invest the money in anything that would give him higher than a 20% return over the next two years. Money today is more valuable to him than money over the next two years.</p>
<p>&#8220;If he takes a medical retirement, then his roster spot opens up and the insurance company pays the remainder of his deal, but it doesn’t come off the salary cap until the deal sunsets.&#8221;</p>
<p>You have to go through a series of medical examinations to be eligible for medical retirement. For example, the bones in Eric Snow&#8217;s knees rub together, so he&#8217;s physically unable to play.</p>
<p>&#8220;If James is bought out, opening a roster spot, Fred Jones can be re-signed for the full mid-level exemption for one year. &#8221;</p>
<p>Fred Jones played alright last season, but I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;s the first free agent I&#8217;d try to sign.</p>
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		<title>By: Z</title>
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		<dc:creator>Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 07:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is no exemption. If he takes a medical retirement, then his roster spot opens up and the insurance company pays the remainder of his deal, but it doesn&#039;t come off the salary cap until the deal sunsets. I don&#039;t think the Knicks could sue for breach of contract, and even if they could, they would lose. If they failed to do their due diligence it is their own fault.

Best case scenario with James, I think, is a buy out-- 12 million to disappear. I don&#039;t think it&#039;s worth keeping James on the roster just to have an extra $6 million to trade 18 months from now.

If James is bought out, opening a roster spot, Fred Jones can be re-signed for the full mid-level exemption for one year. That would give the Knicks another trade asset, plus he is a much more useful player than Jerome James (and he likely wouldn&#039;t get a multi-year offer from another team).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no exemption. If he takes a medical retirement, then his roster spot opens up and the insurance company pays the remainder of his deal, but it doesn&#8217;t come off the salary cap until the deal sunsets. I don&#8217;t think the Knicks could sue for breach of contract, and even if they could, they would lose. If they failed to do their due diligence it is their own fault.</p>
<p>Best case scenario with James, I think, is a buy out&#8211; 12 million to disappear. I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s worth keeping James on the roster just to have an extra $6 million to trade 18 months from now.</p>
<p>If James is bought out, opening a roster spot, Fred Jones can be re-signed for the full mid-level exemption for one year. That would give the Knicks another trade asset, plus he is a much more useful player than Jerome James (and he likely wouldn&#8217;t get a multi-year offer from another team).</p>
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		<title>By: jrock</title>
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		<dc:creator>jrock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 01:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[is there no way to get an exemption for james? the physically unable to perform, or breach of contract or whatever? the guy&#039;s a joke]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is there no way to get an exemption for james? the physically unable to perform, or breach of contract or whatever? the guy&#8217;s a joke</p>
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