Breen is really annoying today. Worse then usual. You could hear the glee in his voice when pierce got that 3 point play. Thank god for jvg.
johnlocke
We really need to fight through screens and stop that JR on Pierce action.
AnonymousODG
cgreene:
How does JR get beat off the dribble by Pierce?
I don’t like how Pierce is having his way with JR. It pretty much offsets Melo having his way with Bradley… and then some.
MarvsTeeth
JR getting screwed on a couple of calls…but holy crap he is bringing it on the offensive end tonight. That dunk was Westbrook-esque.
cgreene
Melo has yet to drive against a team w no interior defense.
er
Is it me or are the refs rooting for boston
DRed
Enough with this ticky tack bullshit. This is the playoffs
d-mar
Feels like we should be up 10, celtics have to be happy with this start
maxwell_3g
damn it all. that is not the way i wanted to end the qusrter. i dont really understand the end of quarter iso with a 6.5 second difference in shot and game clocks
AnonymousODG
Really missing Prigs. Our ball movement isn’t exactly shining.
er
d-mar:
Feels like we should be up 10, celtics have to be happy with this start
This is awful….Knicks getting killed by green n pierce
Refs are obviously more biased then usual because of the Boston tragedy. This is going to be a tough game.
dogrufus
Don’t think we have much of a chance in this game or the series. We haven’t been able to generate any good shots. Melo has been hitting insanely hard shots he’d normally miss. We should be down by 10.
It makes me sad to see all the flaws I’ve been pointing out in this team will sink us. We get shut down by physical defenses. We just can’t score against the Bulls, Pacers, or healthy Celtics.
Get ready to see a lot of long twos from JR, Felton, and Melo.
er
maxwell_3g:
damn it all.that is not the wayi wanted to end the qusrter.i dont really understand the end of quarter iso with a 6.5 second difference in shot and game clocks
The play worked Melo just missed his last two at the rim
MarvsTeeth
AnonymousODG:
Really missing Prigs.Our ball movement isn’t exactly shining.
Way too much iso-ball for JR & Melo. Strange way to start. Is it really just Prigs’ absence?
dogrufus
cgreene:
Melo has yet to drive against a team w no interior defense.
Melo is actually terrible at finishing at the basket, as you saw before. There’s a reason he gets so many putbacks off his own miss.
johnlocke
We can’t have Pierce playing like he’s Jordan, and green like Pippen. Defense needs to step up.
DRed
I’d like to submit this as exhibit A for why missing layups is bad
lavor postell
Really enjoying the Knicks’ perimeter defense. Honestly we just got abused without Garnett on the floor for a good portion of the Celtics’ run. Absolutely atrocious.
er
dogrufus:
Don’t think we have much of a chance in this game or the series.We haven’t been able to generate any good shots.Melo has been hitting insanely hard shots he’d normally miss.We should be down by 10.
It makes me sad to see all the flaws I’ve been pointing out in this team will sink us.We get shut down by physical defenses.We just can’t score against the Bulls, Pacers, or healthy Celtics.
Get ready to see a lot of long twos from JR, Felton, and Melo.
Stfu
maxwell_3g
good job kidd. have to keep shooting
dogrufus
If Green ends up outplaying Melo this series, as he has thus far this game, will we find ruru dead in his apartment?
mr.JayP
those open 3′s got me a lil worried…
maxwell_3g
i think someone needs to get kidd an oxygen mask. that was more driving in the past 2 minutes than he has done all year
dogrufus:
If Green ends up outplaying Melo this series, as he has thus far this game, will we find ruru dead in his apartment?
Mike K can we block this a-hole please?
DRed
Shump shump!
AnonymousODG
Celtics protecting the paint, giving up the longball. Fine by me when we have no post-up players out there, LOL.
iserp
Shumpert, what a tip out of Garnett’s hands and a 3pt!
johnlocke
Our bench > Boston’s bench. I was a little concerned about the no JR, no Melo lineup…let’s not do that too much.
lavor postell
Shumpert might be the stupidest defender off the ball on the team. Why is he leaving the corner 3 open on two straight possessions to double a guard simply cutting to the hoop? Unless Woodson’s idea of rim protection is Shumpert jumping flailing around by the rim.
er
If green plays like James worthy / pippen we are toast tho lol
Chandler is still rusty. Lets hope Tyson smash comes out in the second half.
maxwell_3g
seriously, CANT give up easy layups. this is the playoffs. points a at premium. something eeds to be fixed because givin up layup after layup to a cutting bradley aint gonna get it done
bidiong
Woodson needs to smack somebody and get Chandler’s motor going.
Juany8
Chandler isn’t moving particularly well right now, really worried about his health moving forward. He needs to go back to being DPOY dominant center Tyson chandler soon or the Knicks are going to struggle just getting out of this round
AnonymousODG
llcoolbp:
Chandler is still rusty. Lets hope Tyson smash comes out in the second half.
Unless he gets 3 tremendous blocks, he will not have made up for the 3 blatant backdoor passes that led to layups these past 3 minutes. Bring in KMart.
cgreene
Defense is atrocious
d-mar
Is Chandler playing today? Haven’t seen him
AnonymousODG
WHAT FOUL ON FELTON?!?!?!!?!
lavor postell
God listening to Breen and Van Gundy talk about how great the officiating has been is ridiculous especially given JVG has already disagreed with 4 calls in this game.
AnonymousODG
Can’t believe Chandler let that alley-oop pass go unimpeded. Lucky that the Celtics weren’t on Bradley’s wavelength there.
Chandler only shows up for the 4th quarter. Get him th f out of there and bring in KMart.
er
lavor postell:
God listening to Breen and Van Gundy talk about how great the officiating has been is ridiculous especially given JVG has already disagreed with 4 calls in this game.
I threw up in my mouth on that Felton late call
yellowboy90
Chandler needs some easy Dunks to get going.
johnlocke
Kmart doing pretty much everything better than Chandler. Someone just needs to tell him that under no circumstances should he be taking a jump shot – it’s basically a turnover.
AnonymousODG:
Can’t believe Chandler let that alley-oop pass go unimpeded. Lucky that the Celtics weren’t on Bradley’s wavelength there.
Chandler only shows up for the 4th quarter. Get him th f out of there and bring in KMart.
EB
d-mar:
Is Chandler playing today? Haven’t seen him
He’s in there, its debatable as to whether or not he’s playing.
lavor postell
Our transition defense is a joke right now. Chandler might as well be in a wheelchair.
mr.JayP
Green is indirectly killing Melo…c’mon…
maxwell_3g
melo aint getting it done right now. he should not be shooting long fadeaways with bass covering him
DRed
EB: He’s in there, its debatable as to whether or not he’s playing.
Has anyone thrown Tyson a pass when he’s been open? Tyson isn’t the one turning his back on the perimeter.
Hubert Davis
Hopefully Woodson will figure what’s going on here by Game 3.
cgreene
Knicks playing w terrible intensity and no fluidity. Melo not moving the ball. Bad bad bad
mr.JayP
Woodson NEEEEEEDS to adjust his offense. They are denying melo the ball and when he gets it there’s 11sec left on the clock. thats unacceptable.
dogrufus
Dammit, it was awesome when I was completely wrong about the way we would finish the season.
It really sucks that I’m right about this game and likely the series.
er
If I were in the knick locker room I would get in Melos face and yell “go to the fucking hole”
MarvsTeeth
Melo is doing his best Kobe impression right now. =/
maxwell_3g
woodson should just let kidd and melo go into a room and talk during halftime. the vet needs to calm his ars down
mr.JayP
er:
If I were in the knick locker room I would get in Melos face and yell “go to the fucking hole”
To take a contested shot? This is EXACTLY the game Doc wants melo to play…he needs to pass out of the double team and make a decision in 4 sec or less.
er
And also Melo needs to shoot more threes instead of long twos…..and the team needs to move without the ball. On d they need to revamp the whole thing
Hubert Davis
mr.JayP:
Woodson NEEEEEEDS to adjust his offense. They are denying melo the ball and when he gets it there’s 11sec left on the clock. thats unacceptable.
He won’t. Remember game 1 vs the Heat last year? They fronted Melo, and we didn’t adjust until we got back to NY.
It’s up to the players to figure out. Woodson is useless in the playoffs.
bidiong
Well, the Knicks played like shit, and the Celtics played as well as they could have hoped and we’re down by four. I hope the second half goes a little differently.
Z-man
That was a horrible quarter by Melo. Woodson has to talk to him.
johnlocke
Agreed. He’s holding the ball too long. He also needs to vary it up a little bit. Get the ball of cuts. Get shots through screens as opposed to isolation. Get Bass running through some picks and get mismatches just like the Celtics are doing for Pierce. That part’s on Woody.
mr.JayP: To take a contested shot? This is EXACTLY the game Doc wants melo to play…he needs to pass out of the double team and make a decision in 4 sec or less.
er
mr.JayP: To take a contested shot? This is EXACTLY the game Doc wants melo to play…he needs to pass out of the double team and make a decision in 4 sec or less.
Yea bro. When you collapse the d you can pass top
mr.JayP
Hubert Davis: He won’t.Remember game 1 vs the Heat last year?They fronted Melo, and we didn’t adjust until we got back to NY.
It’s up to the players to figure out.Woodson is useless in the playoffs.
If we get the Atlanta hawks woodson…forget about it. Might as well let him go come summer time.
er
Too
Hubert Davis
Halftime story:
My cable went out at 2:45!
So I went to head to the nearest bar, but I saw a Verizon truck with a technician eating a burger inside of it.
Long story short, I’m light $20, but my cable is fixed, and I spent the first half watching the game on my couch with Dave, the funniest damn cable guy/Knicks fans I’ve ever met.
er
bidiong:
Well, the Knicks played like shit, and the Celtics played as well as they could have hoped and we’re down by four. I hope the second half goes a little differently.
I also kinda feel this way
CaptainB
dogrufus:
Dammit, it was awesome when I was completely wrong about the way we would finish the season.
It really sucks that I’m right about this game and likely the series.
i know I shouldnt respond but stfu you little punk
dogrufus
bidiong:
Well, the Knicks played like shit, and the Celtics played as well as they could have hoped and we’re down by four. I hope the second half goes a little differently.
We shot 6-10 from three. We can expect to play mostly worse, not better.
This is what the rest of the series is going to look like. Our offense falls apart against physical, playoff intensity defenses.
DRed
6-15 with 0 assists is not acceptable. We need to find ways to get Carmelo shots besides iso plays
Nick C.
Damn that was not what I was expecting. The offense looks so stagnant. The defense is worse. Maybe it’s like early days when they would turn it up in the fourth and roll.
maxwell_3g
does magic do any homework. he think cope is a “non-scorer” but Kidd is a “scorer”?
So I went to head to the nearest bar, but I saw a Verizon truck with a technician eating a burger inside of it.
Long story short, I’m light $20, but my cable is fixed, and I spent the first half watching the game on my couch with Dave, the funniest damn cable guy/Knicks fans I’ve ever met.
LOL thats pretty funny…
JK47
Considering the Knicks played like a pile of hot garbage in that half, a four-point deficit ain’t so bad.
The Infamous Cdiggy
mr.JayP: If we get the Atlanta hawks woodson…forget about it. Might as well let him go come summer time.
Melo is doing his bad iso thing… however, there’s no movement off the ball. C’s look like they’re denying/defending the drive well too.
DRed
maxwell_3g:
does magic do any homework.he think cope is a “non-scorer” but Kidd is a “scorer”?
I think you’ve got your answer. Celts hit some very tough shots that half. If we can get the ball moving on offense I think we’ll be fine
dogrufus
CaptainB: i know I shouldnt respond but stfu you little punk
If you disagree with me that’s fine, but why can’t you be civil? I’m a fan too. I want the team to succeed too. I’ve just been so scarred by long years of disappointment that I expect all the team’s endeavors to end in ignominious failure. That doesn’t mean I want this to happen any more than you do.
My most desired outcome is that I’m proven to be hilariously wrong, we win the championship, and everyone laughs at stupid dog.
Unfortunately we’re going to go down in the first round as a second seed to the fucking Celtics. You be upbeat about it if you want.
AnonymousODG
Take out Chandler, bring in KMart and Novak. Bring back that perimeter spacing.
maxwell_3g
someone mentioned that shump is horrible about leaving his man for no reason. this was apparent that half. shump (and others) can not continue to double players and allow the celts to swing the ball around the perimeter for the open corner three. if kg is going to beat us with turnaround 15 footers, so be it. if bass can torch us in the post, so be it. but no more stupid off the ball helping. please!!!
johnlocke
Adjustments:
+ more JR (only played 10 minutes in the first half)
+ no more Kidd on Pierce, put Shump on him fight through screens and don’t double Pierce
+Get up into Green, help off the dribble and force him to take contested mid-range jumpers or to make passes
+ Have Melo attack the paint….less mid range jumpers, attack and get fouled and look to be a playmaker
dogrufus
DRed: I think you’ve got your answer. Celts hit some very tough shots that half. If we can get the ball moving on offense I think we’ll be fine
Melo also hit some ridiculously tough shots, Ray hit a tough long two while being fouled, and we shot 6-10 from three. If one team got the better end of variance in that half, it was unfortunately probably us.
Hubert Davis
Let’s just keep doing our thing, but be a little smarter. See y’all after the win.
dogrufus
Jesus, our offense is just getting exposed like a stripper’s tits
er
Can’t get in the paint
cgreene
Why are they waiting so long to get in the offense? Why are Chandler’s picks so bad?
mr.JayP
See melo. pass the dang ball lol
lavor postell
Does Shumpert know how to catch a basketball? Holy shit he’s fumbled like four balls out of bounds in this game.
mr.JayP
Shumpert playing anxious, cannot fault him for that. But woody n kidd need to settle him down.
AnonymousODG
dogrufus: If you disagree with me that’s fine, but why can’t you be civil?I’m a fan too.I want the team to succeed too.I’ve just been so scarred by long years of disappointment that I expect all the team’s endeavors to end in ignominious failure.That doesn’t mean I want this to happen any more than you do.
My most desired outcome is that I’m proven to be hilariously wrong, we win the championship, and everyone laughs at stupid dog.
Unfortunately we’re going to go down in the first round as a second seed to the fucking Celtics.You be upbeat about it if you want.
You do want this to happen. It’s fairly obvious. Trying to justify your negative attitude because you’re a wounded fan is hilarity. You’re the only Knicks fan that has stuck with them through all the horrible years they’ve had? For realz? Drop the act.
If you wanna hate, just hate. There’s plenty to criticize and justifiably so (looking at you, Chandler). So stop half-stepping with flimsy excuses because it just reveals a shocking insecurity. Which is being picked up upon by more than a few posters. Hence the hostility.
maxwell_3g
did both teams go on drinking binges during halftime??
DRed
Now that’s more like it
d-mar
Man shump has no clue how to take it to the basket
johnlocke
This. It’s just weird.
lavor postell:
Does Shumpert know how to catch a basketball?Holy shit he’s fumbled like four balls out of bounds in this game.
lavor postell
If we defend like this for the rest of the series there is no doubt as to the outcome. Our offense is hurting without Prigioni because it moves Felton to an on the ball position without anybody nearly as capable at him penetrating playing off the ball. That constant threat of penetration and multiple pick and rolls is what gets Carmelo positive isolation looks and our three point game.
johnlocke
Expected 1st game jitters for Cope. He’s just not looked confident out there. Hopefully we get a better Cope throughout the series / playoffs. Shump has also looked unsteady. JR in full EFF You mode however
The Infamous Cdiggy
d-mar:
Man shump has no clue how to take it to the basket
no. 1 thing he needs to work on this offseason. That and off-ball D
cgreene
Chandler is death
lavor postell
I am really getting pissed of with Chandler’s dispirited performance. Not rolling to the rim and then just conceding ground to Green. Wake he fuck up pal.
er
Breen is hilarious….that was clearly a block on bradley
d-mar
Chandler should be stepping in for the charge there wtf
cgreene
Terrible terrible offense. Taking way too long to get into sets
The Infamous Cdiggy
Is it me, or should it not be the case that jeff green>tyson on that play?
mr.JayP
Put kmart in or the other center. its clear ty isnt %100
this is just strange. how can chandler be so inviible?? this is the type of series he lives for. he must not be right. maybe he just needs to get his legs under him
johnlocke
Take Chandler out and put in Kenyon..he’s providing no help D
The Infamous Cdiggy
now THATS ball movement!
mr.JayP
LETS GO BABY!
The Infamous Cdiggy
now THAT’s a pick and roll play!
johnlocke
Kenyon already done more than Tyson
maxwell_3g
when melo dribbles between his legs, its death to the possession. his handle betwen the legs is slow and sloppy. just needs to gun away or duck the head and go to the hole
cgreene
Cant get any momentum. Melo totally afraid to go ha
cgreene
= go inside
d-mar
Pierce’s shot looks broken, I like our chances if their offense comes down to green making contested shots
lavor postell
Look I get that Melo gets a shitty whistle and he has some legitimate gripes but his attitude today is just childish. Ok complain the first couple of times you don’t get a call, but then adjust. Don’t do the same shit over and over and act shocked when the results are the same. Also we need way better floor spacing.
yellowboy90
Melo needs to stop pressing and pass. Draw and kick or just move the ball.
johnlocke
so many bricked jumpers from melo
maxwell_3g
who fouled pierce??? both men got all ball
d-mar
All ball no foul
johnlocke
JR or someone else needs to be more aggressive. They’re just passing it to Melo with hte shot clock running down and standing around.
yellowboy90:
Melo needs to stop pressing and pass. Draw and kick or just move the ball.
mr.JayP
our offense just looks…clunky..
maxwell_3g
ohhh boy
DRed
This offense is hideous
dogrufus
AnonymousODG: You do want this to happen.It’s fairly obvious. Trying to justify your negative attitude because you’re a wounded fan is hilarity.You’re the only Knicks fan that has stuck with them through all the horrible years they’ve had?For realz?Drop the act.
If you wanna hate, just hate.There’s plenty to criticize and justifiably so (looking at you, Chandler).So stop half-stepping with flimsy excuses because it just reveals a shocking insecurity.Which is being picked up upon by more than a few posters.Hence the hostility.
I think I have better insight into what I want than you do. Shocking insecurity as to this team is utterly justified. We’re on the verge of collapsing at home to the 7th seed. Stop telling me how I feel or should feel about it.
I’m pessimistic. I don’t think out team is really very good. I don’t think we’ll win this game or series. I dont’ want any of this to be so. Deal with it.
d-mar
Breen and Doc Rivers shocked at the foul calls
lavor postell
Breen is really ridiculous. It’s honestly like he gets payed to act personally aggrieved any time the Knicks get the benefit of a whistle.
AnonymousODG
Pierce, Green and Bradley are playing about as well as they could have hoped. In the meantime, Melo is shooting poorly, JR is playing awful defense and is shooting poorly now, and Felton is playing so-so.
We’re only down 3.
Frankly, I like our chances this series, if not this game.
er
Melo n jr missing easy shots isn’t good….breen slurping pierce is making me wanna vomit lmao
johnlocke
Melo really needs to either attack, get in the post or pass and move the ball quickly. We can’t rely on Melo to win this game for us. The team has to win. I hope they and Melo realize this. #NO HEROBALL PLEASE
maxwell_3g
we REALLY need a superstar 4th from melo here (and not one from pierce)
maxwell_3g
cope on KG. i like it. open up the floor on offense
Owen
I like our chances in this game.
mr.JayP
hey bad jr. where have you been bruh!? havent seen you in a while…
cgreene
Smith missing wide open 3s
maxwell_3g
that was the ugliest offense to ever lead to a layup. if JR wants to show he the best sub in the league, he needs to be able to take control with melo on the bench
mr.JayP
please baby heyzeus make this free throw…
DRed
Got to love the fight. Kidd is a basketball savant
maxwell_3g
mr.JayP:
hey bad jr. where have you been bruh!? havent seen you in a while…
lol. we meet again
AnonymousODG
dogrufus: I think I have better insight into what I want than you do.Shocking insecurity as to this team is utterly justified.We’re on the verge of collapsing at home to the 7th seed.Stop telling me how I feel or should feel about it.
I’m pessimistic.I don’t think out team is really very good.I don’t think we’ll win this game or series.I dont’ want any of this to be so.Deal with it.
You do have better insight. Which is probably why my comment was so cutting. And nothing in this response actually detracts from my comment. Not surprising.
mr.JayP
DRed:
Got to love the fight. Kidd is a basketball savant
you can tell kidd is from the other era..
cgreene
WHY ARE THEY TAKING SO LONG TO GET INTO THE FUCKING OFFENSE?????????
johnlocke
Damn. That layup by Ray :-/
er
Lol breen….complains about the delay on the Melo foul but says nothing when pierce falls on his on own and gets the call….why does he always have to get our national games too?
johnlocke
Raymond Felton really needs to be more aggressive, I’m not sure the Celtics have an answer for his penetration.
er
Jr has been pretty bad on open jumpers today smh
d-mar
Boston’s bench players will go back to the bench now
Z-man
There are like a million time outs this game!
Hubert Davis
That was such a dive by Pierce. This is shameful.
bidiong
I’m waiting for K-Mart to kill someone now. Looking forward to a hard foul on someone.
AnonymousODG
Not smart, JR. Not smart.
mr.JayP
lets end this now melo, EYE OF THE TIGER BABY!
johnlocke
Kidd on Pierce is stupid…
maxwell_3g
what a big shot by pierce…. and then….JR!!!!!!!!!!
Guys at the end of the day you’re going to occasionally miss open jumpers, the important thing is to keep getting those types of shots which will eventually go in. Overall I think this team’s done decent considering that Tyson chandler has basically been invisible and prigs is missing.
maxwell_3g
mr.JayP:
Good JR! whaddup bruh!? You stopping by or you gonna stay for the whole facken series?
lol. this is killing me
johnlocke
I agree. I’ve loved the little duck. I want him to be even more aggressive. If it’s a 3 headed offensive monster out there (with Chandler adding nothing)….we need Felton to step up alongside Carmelo and JR
d-mar: I actually think Felton has played great overall
AnonymousODG
The only thing that makes me sad is that Woodson will bring in Chandler (0 pts, 5 rebs, 0 blks) at some point to finish the game instead of sticking with KMart (8 pts, 8 rebs, 2 blks) who has been great.
yeah. jr, kidd, and felton are doing a great job throwing their bodies in there and crashing on the boards. especially jr
johnlocke
Our defense this half has in fact been pretty damn good. We need to initiate the offense faster though. Tired legs??
AnonymousODG
AnonymousODG:
The only thing that makes me sad is that Woodson will bring in Chandler (0 pts, 5 rebs, 0 blks) at some point to finish the game instead of sticking with KMart (8 pts, 8 rebs, 2 blks) who has been great.
My facepalm is reading itself.
Could Woodson have even realized how well KMart is playing??? *knocks on wood* We can’t hit an open shot if our life depended on it, but damn is our defense grooving.
bidiong
I’m glad Chandler is still on the bench. Maybe he’ll wake up or maybe he’s still injured and shouldn’t be playing.
d-mar
Defense is winning this game for us
johnlocke
Man, Celts down 3, Paul Pierce licking his chops, twinkle in his eye, Pierce about to take that 3, then JR fresh from bitching about a call comes back and swipes victory from the jaws of defeat… if one sequence sums up JR ….that was just it.
Knicks4Eva
Kidd!
The Infamous Cdiggy
Kidd is making his money today on D.
Knicks4Eva
So, dogrufus, why not chip in with a positive comment now?
yellowboy90
Melo
mr.JayP
HE’S A BAAAAAD MAAAN!
Knicks4Eva
Also, Melo!
maxwell_3g
i HATE our down the stretch offense, but I LOVE that shot
AnonymousODG: Could Woodson have even realized how well KMart is playing???*knocks on wood* We can’t hit an open shot if our life depended on it, but damn is our defense grooving.
Martin much more effective on both ends of court. That’s it. Chandler will eventually get going, you have to figure.
Loved Melos demeanor after hitting that shot. Ice cold killer style.
maxwell_3g
if they score, we need to stay agressive on offense. that means getting into the offense quickly. i dont care who shoots, just make it a good shot (meaning, no need to force it to melo)
Juany8
Kenyon Martin was a fucking great pickup. Out lineup is pretty much all castoffs and Carmelo and it works!
ruruland
the turnover orebound/advantage over this Celtics team is biggest edge.
they are still a great defensive team. We’ll see if they can sustain that for an entire series.
The Infamous Cdiggy
Look, Kidd’s been a beast on D today, but he shouldn’t be on Green tho
d-mar
Thank god Terry sucks, think about if ray Allen was in his place
johnlocke
If we didn’t have Martin… we would have been fucked today
ruruland: Martin much more effective on both ends of court. That’s it. Chandler will eventually get going, you have to figure.
Regardless, this team will not be denied.
AnonymousODG
WHAT A PASS
johnlocke
Melo….first assist…best assist! Lebronesque
The Infamous Cdiggy
WHAT A FREAKIN ASSIST!!!!! MELO!!
maxwell_3g
well. we did everything wrong on that offensive possession, except for the c’s left a man open right under the hoop. i’ll take it
bidiong
Oh did Melo just play team ball? Breen just shit himself.
Knicks4Eva
Melo with the assist to Martin for the win!
Anyone predict that?
ruruland
Juany8:
Kenyon Martin was a fucking great pickup. Out lineup is pretty much all castoffs and Carmelo and it works!
KMart has a huge heart, extremely intelligent, and really underrated ability to do a least of things well.
will not look great statistically but he’s a pure winner.
please stop. no comparisons to lebron. a) they are not apt. b) we all (should) hate lebron
mr.JayP
Martin and Birdman have been the two biggest pick ups during the season in the eastern conference…
The Infamous Cdiggy
johnlocke:
If we didn’t have Martin… we would have been fucked today
AMEN! What a godsend.
maxwell_3g
great win!!!! adjustments to be made, but I will take the win!!!!
AnonymousODG
8 pts in the 4th quarter. Unbelievable. Is that an NBA record low for the playoffs????
ruruland
So it begins.
bidiong
25 second half points for the Cs. Good D!
The Infamous Cdiggy
Offense was… at best… scrappy.
But 25 pts allowed in the half? Manly effort.
dogrufus
YESSSS!!!
DRed
Seriously, the milenium Nets saved our asses today
ruruland
AnonymousODG:
8 pts in the 4th quarter.Unbelievable.Is that an NBA record low for the playoffs????
Think the 4th quarter defense was top 5 going into the playoffs. I’ll check.
johnlocke
That was sweet. We won that game with our DEFENSE..not three pointers. Kenyon was huge, Kidd was huge on D. Interestingly don’t think either Novak or Cope cracked double digit minutes. And I’m glad Woody stuck with Martin and didn’t feel obligated to put the All-Star Center back in the game. Great, great win!
Jeff Green scored 6 pts in the 2nd half, Jason Terry scored 0. I mean if we score 90+, I think it’s going to be tough for the Celts to keep up on the offensive end. Their defense however was very good at times this game…ours was outrageous in the 2nd half. I wonder if you look at our quarter splits, I’d bet we’re a top 10 defense in 2nd half and fourth quarter defense…it’s seemed to be a theme all season.
er
Huge game from Kidd and Kmart, I thought Felton was decent as well. If Melo and Earl made their open jumpers this woulda been an easier victory. Also Jeff Green showed the difference btwn a star and just a good player
BigBlueAL
Got home in time to watch the entire 4th quarter. Fitting JVG was calling the game cause this was a win straight out of the JVG era.
Boston just doesnt have enough offense and specifically ball-handling to win this series. Was very frustrated/perplexed with the Knicks offense in the 4th but thankfully we got Melo and Boston doesnt. Ugly win but will gladly take it, still feeling good about the Knicks winning this series in 5.
ruruland
maxwell_3g:
if they score, we need to stay agressive on offense.that means getting into the offense quickly.i dont care who shoots, just make it a good shot (meaning, no need to force it to melo)
Easier said than done, Max. This is the playoffs, and so ball entry and man defense are allowed to be very tight.
When you have Bradley, KG, Green and good team defenders around them, in a playoff situation, it’s next to impossible to create good offense consistently.
Again today we see the value Amar’e provides in terms of establishing an inside out presence.
Remember, in 7 games last year the Heat scored 100 points or more in regulation just once.
The Heat.
And that was without Green.
The Celtics allowed 100 or more points in 1 of 20 playoff games last year.
er
llcoolbp:
The next couple of days are going to be sweet.
Don’t have too much fun lol
ruruland
BigBlueAL:
Got home in time to watch the entire 4th quarter.Fitting JVG was calling the game cause this was a win straight out of the JVG era.
Boston just doesnt have enough offense and specifically ball-handling to win this series.Was very frustrated/perplexed with the Knicks offense in the 4th but thankfully we got Melo and Boston doesnt.Ugly win but will gladly take it, still feeling good about the Knicks winning this series in 5.
Offense gets ugly in the playoffs, cliche as that is, at least when you have quality defensive teams.
That’s why guys who can make difficult/guarded shots have even more value in the postseason.
johnlocke
a) it was a great pass, b) I can compare two things two people do w/o saying they are the same, c) I’ll hate Lebron when he plays the Knicks.
maxwell_3g: please stop.no comparisons to lebron.a)they are not apt.b)we all (should) hate lebron
BigBlueAL
Also Im sure it has been mentioned already today and certainly has been mentioned throughout the season but man gotta say again, AMAZING hands Kidd has on D. He probably got mostly arm on some of them too but he usually gets the benefit of the doubt from the refs which is fine with me lol.
ruruland
Interested to see game 2 adjustments. I thought Knicks team defense was great and the doubles really started to work and the rotations got tight in the second half.
er
ruruland: Offense gets ugly in the playoffs, cliche as that is, at least when you have quality defensive teams.
That’s why guys who can make difficult/guarded shots have even more value in the postseason.
That long two on green was rediculous
BigBlueAL
ruruland: Offense gets ugly in the playoffs, cliche as that is, at least when you have quality defensive teams.
That’s why guys who can make difficult/guarded shots have even more value in the postseason.
My thing with the offense was they literally would wait until under 10 secs were left on the shot clock to do anything and alot of the times they never got the ball in Melo’s hands. I was screaming to get him the ball early in the clock and let him go to work with some time left on the clock.
It was getting to the point where after a few horrible floater looking shots and heaves from 3 late in the clock (none of them from Melo) I was screaming next time Melo shoots and I dont care if he has all 5 guys on him lol.
d-mar
Knicks had 15 steals, led by Melo with 4. But Kidd’s were no doubt the biggest
JK47
Dogrufus apparently has his tail between his legs right now, pun intended.
Thank God for Kenyon Martin. What a huge difference maker. He really brings some bad ass toughness to the table that this team sorely needs.
This was a great opportunity for the Celtics to steal a game and they couldn’t do it.
DRed
We won that game because we got 15 steals. Going forward, we need either Melo or JR to actually hit some shots. And thank God for K Mart. I don’t know if Tyson was rusty or still hurt, but we would have been totally boned without a plan B bigman. What’s the word on Priggy Smalls?
ruruland
BigBlueAL: My thing with the offense was they literally would wait until under 10 secs were left on the shot clock to do anything and alot of the times they never got the ball in Melo’s hands.I was screaming to get him the ball early in the clock and let him go to work with some time left on the clock.
It was getting to the point where after a few horrible floater looking shots and heaves from 3 late in the clock (none of them from Melo) I was screaming next time Melo shoots and I dont care if he has all 5 guys on him lol.
They need to have Melo be the primary roll player and then have him stagger screen the weakside so that he’ll have a clear side.
The one flex screen is not opening up enough space.
Knicks need to him a couple backdoors to loosen up Boston’s fronting, and you can’t do that with just one or two actions because Boston’s defense is so disciplined on the weakside.
It’s just one more step.
Hubert Davis
Credit to Mike Woodson. I rage against him frequently, mostly because I’m a control freak, but he kept an even keel and trusted that our superiority would bear out in time, and it did.
Smart to go with Martin. Obvious, but it still bore a little risk to play Martin over Chandler.
I’ve backed off the ledge. Until Tuesday.
Go Knicks!
jon abbey
Martin and Kidd were amazing, Martin has singlehandedly saved this team (along with JR’s transformation).
and yeah, get into the offense a bit quicker, it’s like they didn’t even realize there was a 24 second clock on a handful of those late possessions. nice game by Felton too.
can’t wait to see Chandler get an A in the recap… :)
jon abbey
and I can’t believe I’m saying this, but hurry back, Prigioni.
I think we should start White instead of Copeland. I know that sounds terrible. But he is a better defender. With all the switches being made, he’ll be a help against Bradley, Green and Pierce in the 1st quarter. Celtics’ first-string defense just shut Copeland down.
Hopefully, Chandler takes these next few days to eat some humble pie. He got benched, plain and simple. He needs to play better in the first half, no question, and not coast on last year’s near-meaningless (shortened season) defensive performance. But even if he doesn’t come out with more fire and finesse, at least Woodson has been struck by inspiration and realized KMart can shoulder the lion-share of minutes in tight games.
johnlocke
You’re right..it sounds terrible…. because it is
AnonymousODG: I’ma get drunk!Knicks playoff win, bro.
I think we should start White instead of Copeland.I know that sounds terrible.But he is a better defender.With all the switches being made, he’ll be a help against Bradley, Green and Pierce in the 1st quarter.Celtics’ first-string defense just shut Copeland down.
Hopefully, Chandler takes these next few days to eat some humble pie.He got benched, plain and simple.He needs to play better in the first half, no question, and not coast on last year’s near-meaningless (shortened season) defensive performance.But even if he doesn’t come out with more fire and finesse, at least Woodson has been struck by inspiration and realized KMart can shoulder the lion-share of minutes in tight games.
ruruland
DRed:
We won that game because we got 15 steals.Going forward, we need either Melo or JR to actually hit some shots. And thank God for K Mart. I don’t know if Tyson was rusty or still hurt, but we would have been totally boned without a plan B bigman.What’s the word on Priggy Smalls?
Offensive rebounding and turnover differential will be the prime advantages.
Knicks are a better spot-up shooting team. Period. That’s a third advantage.
Celtics got the better whistle, made every free throw, got huge games from Green and Bradley and lost.
There are a lot of ways to look at it.
AGain, last year the Celtics held opponents below 100 points in regulation in 19 of 20 games, including 6/7 against fucking Miami.
The offense will get ugly.
Denver/GS. GS has the best player.
ruruland
AnonymousODG: I’ma get drunk!Knicks playoff win, bro.
I think we should start White instead of Copeland.I know that sounds terrible.But he is a better defender.With all the switches being made, he’ll be a help against Bradley, Green and Pierce in the 1st quarter.Celtics’ first-string defense just shut Copeland down.
Hopefully, Chandler takes these next few days to eat some humble pie.He got benched, plain and simple.He needs to play better in the first half, no question, and not coast on last year’s near-meaningless (shortened season) defensive performance.But even if he doesn’t come out with more fire and finesse, at least Woodson has been struck by inspiration and realized KMart can shoulder the lion-share of minutes in tight games.
That defense felt really infectious in the 4th quarter. Really liked the game Felton and Kidd put in. Kenyon’s energy level is absolutely amazing. Melo and JR had a lot that went in and out. I think they both need to drive to the basket a bit more, but we need to put in a few things to alleviate the ball pressure because the Celtics are waiting for it.
DRed
Last year the Celtics were a different team. I still think we win in 5, but that was an ugly game by our offense.
Z-man
Garnett and Pierce looked like they had no energy in the 4th quarter. They looked old. Did you see Pierce make thag lazy pass, and then let Melo get the angle on him on the fast break?
Also, I think this was a great opening game. It gave the Knicks confidence that they can win when the shots aren’t falling. Not a lot heads hanging, even when they got down in the third. Winning the series over a team that owned the division and was seemingly looking forward to this matchup could mean great things for confidence going into the next series.
AnonymousODG
BigBlueAL:
Holy crap, Celtics bench was 0 or 7 for 4 pts.
Jason Terry is just awful. And I love it (along with basically everybody else, lol). Called every single one of his misses with glee.
er
Green and pierce 6 TOs each lol
Unreason
B-U-T-ful Team D just owned the sagging Cs; crushed them even though the Knicks offense was off and TS was lame. Most steals, most important steals don’t matter. The Team D was the whole deal and will only get better when Prig and the real TS return. Step 1 of Operation Demoralizing Smackdown complete. Any game when the Knicks Offense also clicks won’t be close.
mr.JayP
Im excited to see if we make adjustments for the 2nd game fix our offense while retaining that 2nd half tenacious D.
Unreason
TC not TS.
AnonymousODG
“I love it. Playoffs are my type of basketball because you’re playing every possession with heart and passion. There is no tomorrow,” Chandler said. “Every possession can determine the outcome of the series. There’s nothing like it. I love the intensity.”
Irony is irony. Step it up, Tyson.
ephus
I’ve said it before, and I hope to say it again:
This is a GREAT time to be a Knick fan.
maxwell_3g
BigBlueAL: My thing with the offense was they literally would wait until under 10 secs were left on the shot clock to do anything and alot of the times they never got the ball in Melo’s hands.I was screaming to get him the ball early in the clock and let him go to work with some time left on the clock.
It was getting to the point where after a few horrible floater looking shots and heaves from 3 late in the clock (none of them from Melo) I was screaming next time Melo shoots and I dont care if he has all 5 guys on him lol.
exactly. expecially towards the end of the game. ruru knows what we are talking about, hes just trying to be contrary
maxwell_3g
ruruland: Easier said than done, Max. This is the playoffs, and so ball entry and man defense are allowed to be very tight.
When you have Bradley, KG, Green and good team defenders around them, in a playoff situation, it’s next to impossible to create good offense consistently.
Again today we see the value Amar’e provides in terms of establishing an inside out presence.
Remember, in 7 games last year the Heat scored 100 points or more in regulation just once.
The Heat.
And that was without Green.
The Celtics allowed 100 or more points in 1 of 20 playoff games last year.
ruru. if amare plays, we prob dont win this game. k mart wouldnt have gotten his minutes. amare prob would have score 13 on 5-10 shooting, 3-4 from the line, and screwed up our team defense while he was out there. the idea of amare sounds good in a vacuum, but this roster gives us the best chance. its just the reality
BigBlueAL
Doc in his postgame press conference said he was most disappointed with allowing Melo to catch the ball late in the shot clock. Celtics plan is clearly deny him the ball and force the Knicks into those awful looking possessions where Felton or JR have to take some crazy shot as the shot clock expires.
Pretty disappointed with ESPN just now. Watched halftime of the Nuggets-Warriors game expecting to see some Knicks-Celtics highlights and a discussion of the game and nothing. It was as if they didnt even play earlier. Guarantee if the Knicks had lost there wouldve been alot of discussion of the game.
maxwell_3g
ruruland: I thought Copeland was very solid on defense.
He can have a Jeff Green game in this series.
yeah, im actually interested to see if woodson is contemplating a lineup that has cope at the 5 with melo at the 4 when the cs have kg in there. it would really space the celtics out on defnese, and i dont get the sense that kg at this point would kill us on the offensive glass or in the paint. we will basically get the 12 foot turnarounds he gets anyways. now, of course we will have no rim protection, so the guards would have to keep their men in front of them, but it could be a lineup that could put up some points (read, open threes) for us
AnonymousODG
maxwell_3g: ruru.if amare plays, we prob dont win this game.k mart wouldnt have gotten his minutes.amare prob would have score 13 on 5-10 shooting, 3-4 from the line, and screwed up our team defense while he was out there.the idea of amare sounds good in a vacuum, but this roster gives us the best chance.its just the reality
I’d take 18 minutes of Amare over Copeland/Novak’s combined 18 minutes any day. Seems obvious at this point. Celtics play big, and STAT wouldn’t have taken KMart’s minutes but played PF. I’m pretty positive that we would have shifted Melo into the SF position, which would have been great.
johnlocke
Interesting stat from ESPN Stats:
“Perhaps influenced by a hot first couple of minutes, Carmelo Anthony passed the ball on only three of 26 touches in the first half, and after his hot start, he missed 11 of his last 13 shots in the half.
In the second half, Anthony took a different approach. He passed 15 times on his 33 touches, the most important of which resulted in a key Kenyon Martin layup late in the game”
Zanzibar
ephus:
I’ve said it before, and I hope to say it again: This is a GREAT time to be a Knick fan.
This is the kind of repetition we welcome in contrast to the annoying cuckoo-clock-like interruptions of that troll Dog guy. Our team gutted out a gritty victory: “What doesn’t kill us will make us stronger.” Sure I’d much prefer the Hawks right now but if we can emerge victorious, we’ll be that much better (if our entire team is not in the hospital). The Mavs last season gave OKC a real scare in the first 2 games in Oklahoma and then folded mainly due to age. If we can win the next game, we should be in good shape.
JK47
The Knicks just have a big built-in advantage against the Celtics because of the turnovers and offensive rebounds. So many extra possessions. The C’s have to either shoot out of their minds, play completely lockdown defense or hope the Knicks have an uncharacteristically bad day with turnovers to have much of a chance.
They were 19-19 from the line today and still lost, because the Knicks took 14 more FGA.
AnonymousODG
JK47:
The Knicks just have a big built-in advantage against the Celtics because of the turnovers and offensive rebounds.So many extra possessions.The C’s have to either shoot out of their minds, play completely lockdown defense or hope the Knicks have an uncharacteristically bad day with turnovers to have much of a chance.
They were 19-19 from the line today and still lost, because the Knicks took 14 more FGA.
The Knicks advantage is that Celtics are playing without their best player: Rajon Rondo. And while BOS made a praise-worthy effort to salvage a post-season appearance with some inspired team play during the season, they shouldn’t expect to take down the Knicks.
Even Bill Simmons noted that a 4 pt lead at the half was about as much as BOS fans could hope for. Which is kind of a sad statement in and of itself. BOS needs a divine performance from Pierce or Garnett to take a game (or a horrible injury to a Knick). Simple as that.
WOW. B.S tech call on ty
Woah, that technical was some bullshit.
awful call on the T, but why chandler, why??
i know i feel like we have a chance to do something this year because im nervous. wasnt even nervous past 2 years. havent felt this way since the 90′s
Martin sets a screen that Garnett gets away with 15 times a game, gets called for it. BS
another awful call
JR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How does JR get beat off the dribble by Pierce?
Wow, that was not a charge on JR.
But, the officials are keeping a tight reign.
Not totally screwing us yet.
Breen is really annoying today. Worse then usual. You could hear the glee in his voice when pierce got that 3 point play. Thank god for jvg.
We really need to fight through screens and stop that JR on Pierce action.
I don’t like how Pierce is having his way with JR. It pretty much offsets Melo having his way with Bradley… and then some.
JR getting screwed on a couple of calls…but holy crap he is bringing it on the offensive end tonight. That dunk was Westbrook-esque.
Melo has yet to drive against a team w no interior defense.
Is it me or are the refs rooting for boston
Enough with this ticky tack bullshit. This is the playoffs
Feels like we should be up 10, celtics have to be happy with this start
damn it all. that is not the way i wanted to end the qusrter. i dont really understand the end of quarter iso with a 6.5 second difference in shot and game clocks
Really missing Prigs. Our ball movement isn’t exactly shining.
This is awful….Knicks getting killed by green n pierce
Refs are obviously more biased then usual because of the Boston tragedy. This is going to be a tough game.
Don’t think we have much of a chance in this game or the series. We haven’t been able to generate any good shots. Melo has been hitting insanely hard shots he’d normally miss. We should be down by 10.
It makes me sad to see all the flaws I’ve been pointing out in this team will sink us. We get shut down by physical defenses. We just can’t score against the Bulls, Pacers, or healthy Celtics.
Get ready to see a lot of long twos from JR, Felton, and Melo.
The play worked Melo just missed his last two at the rim
Way too much iso-ball for JR & Melo. Strange way to start. Is it really just Prigs’ absence?
Melo is actually terrible at finishing at the basket, as you saw before. There’s a reason he gets so many putbacks off his own miss.
We can’t have Pierce playing like he’s Jordan, and green like Pippen. Defense needs to step up.
I’d like to submit this as exhibit A for why missing layups is bad
Really enjoying the Knicks’ perimeter defense. Honestly we just got abused without Garnett on the floor for a good portion of the Celtics’ run. Absolutely atrocious.
Stfu
good job kidd. have to keep shooting
If Green ends up outplaying Melo this series, as he has thus far this game, will we find ruru dead in his apartment?
those open 3′s got me a lil worried…
i think someone needs to get kidd an oxygen mask. that was more driving in the past 2 minutes than he has done all year
LOL. well said.
Mike K can we block this a-hole please?
Shump shump!
Celtics protecting the paint, giving up the longball. Fine by me when we have no post-up players out there, LOL.
Shumpert, what a tip out of Garnett’s hands and a 3pt!
Our bench > Boston’s bench. I was a little concerned about the no JR, no Melo lineup…let’s not do that too much.
Shumpert might be the stupidest defender off the ball on the team. Why is he leaving the corner 3 open on two straight possessions to double a guard simply cutting to the hoop? Unless Woodson’s idea of rim protection is Shumpert jumping flailing around by the rim.
If green plays like James worthy / pippen we are toast tho lol
This lineup is scrappy good on defense.
I’ve been reading this board forever but finally decided to make an account for the playoff run.
These refs have been ridiculous so far and the team needs to drive to the lane more. The ball movement is so much better off penetration.
I sure hope they don’t block people for saying ruru REALLY loves melo….
ray ray came to play today. i have to assume that green will cool off
Melos gotta go to the rack
Melo has to play more in the offense…or bully his way to the post.
Felton is playing well. JR’s defense is bad. Melo is getting too complacent and needs to draw some fouls.
I guess he’s reading this board
There we go Melo, take it to the hole!
He’s making some ridiculous shots right now, I don’t think he’s capable of keepi this up a whole series
WHY are they doubling on Garnett when Chandler is there?
Chandler just killing our defense. Ugh.
that is embarrassing…
Who the fuck is playing bradley
Smith is really hurting the D.
Wow Felton and Chandler need to wake the fuck up on defense
Kidd on Pierce is not working….
Chandler is still rusty. Lets hope Tyson smash comes out in the second half.
seriously, CANT give up easy layups. this is the playoffs. points a at premium. something eeds to be fixed because givin up layup after layup to a cutting bradley aint gonna get it done
Woodson needs to smack somebody and get Chandler’s motor going.
Chandler isn’t moving particularly well right now, really worried about his health moving forward. He needs to go back to being DPOY dominant center Tyson chandler soon or the Knicks are going to struggle just getting out of this round
Unless he gets 3 tremendous blocks, he will not have made up for the 3 blatant backdoor passes that led to layups these past 3 minutes. Bring in KMart.
Defense is atrocious
Is Chandler playing today? Haven’t seen him
WHAT FOUL ON FELTON?!?!?!!?!
God listening to Breen and Van Gundy talk about how great the officiating has been is ridiculous especially given JVG has already disagreed with 4 calls in this game.
Can’t believe Chandler let that alley-oop pass go unimpeded. Lucky that the Celtics weren’t on Bradley’s wavelength there.
Chandler only shows up for the 4th quarter. Get him th f out of there and bring in KMart.
I threw up in my mouth on that Felton late call
Chandler needs some easy Dunks to get going.
Kmart doing pretty much everything better than Chandler. Someone just needs to tell him that under no circumstances should he be taking a jump shot – it’s basically a turnover.
He’s in there, its debatable as to whether or not he’s playing.
Our transition defense is a joke right now. Chandler might as well be in a wheelchair.
Green is indirectly killing Melo…c’mon…
melo aint getting it done right now. he should not be shooting long fadeaways with bass covering him
Has anyone thrown Tyson a pass when he’s been open? Tyson isn’t the one turning his back on the perimeter.
Hopefully Woodson will figure what’s going on here by Game 3.
Knicks playing w terrible intensity and no fluidity. Melo not moving the ball. Bad bad bad
Woodson NEEEEEEDS to adjust his offense. They are denying melo the ball and when he gets it there’s 11sec left on the clock. thats unacceptable.
Dammit, it was awesome when I was completely wrong about the way we would finish the season.
It really sucks that I’m right about this game and likely the series.
If I were in the knick locker room I would get in Melos face and yell “go to the fucking hole”
Melo is doing his best Kobe impression right now. =/
woodson should just let kidd and melo go into a room and talk during halftime. the vet needs to calm his ars down
To take a contested shot? This is EXACTLY the game Doc wants melo to play…he needs to pass out of the double team and make a decision in 4 sec or less.
And also Melo needs to shoot more threes instead of long twos…..and the team needs to move without the ball. On d they need to revamp the whole thing
He won’t. Remember game 1 vs the Heat last year? They fronted Melo, and we didn’t adjust until we got back to NY.
It’s up to the players to figure out. Woodson is useless in the playoffs.
Well, the Knicks played like shit, and the Celtics played as well as they could have hoped and we’re down by four. I hope the second half goes a little differently.
That was a horrible quarter by Melo. Woodson has to talk to him.
Agreed. He’s holding the ball too long. He also needs to vary it up a little bit. Get the ball of cuts. Get shots through screens as opposed to isolation. Get Bass running through some picks and get mismatches just like the Celtics are doing for Pierce. That part’s on Woody.
Yea bro. When you collapse the d you can pass top
If we get the Atlanta hawks woodson…forget about it. Might as well let him go come summer time.
Too
Halftime story:
My cable went out at 2:45!
So I went to head to the nearest bar, but I saw a Verizon truck with a technician eating a burger inside of it.
Long story short, I’m light $20, but my cable is fixed, and I spent the first half watching the game on my couch with Dave, the funniest damn cable guy/Knicks fans I’ve ever met.
I also kinda feel this way
i know I shouldnt respond but stfu you little punk
We shot 6-10 from three. We can expect to play mostly worse, not better.
This is what the rest of the series is going to look like. Our offense falls apart against physical, playoff intensity defenses.
6-15 with 0 assists is not acceptable. We need to find ways to get Carmelo shots besides iso plays
Damn that was not what I was expecting. The offense looks so stagnant. The defense is worse. Maybe it’s like early days when they would turn it up in the fourth and roll.
does magic do any homework. he think cope is a “non-scorer” but Kidd is a “scorer”?
LOL thats pretty funny…
Considering the Knicks played like a pile of hot garbage in that half, a four-point deficit ain’t so bad.
Melo is doing his bad iso thing… however, there’s no movement off the ball. C’s look like they’re denying/defending the drive well too.
I think you’ve got your answer. Celts hit some very tough shots that half. If we can get the ball moving on offense I think we’ll be fine
If you disagree with me that’s fine, but why can’t you be civil? I’m a fan too. I want the team to succeed too. I’ve just been so scarred by long years of disappointment that I expect all the team’s endeavors to end in ignominious failure. That doesn’t mean I want this to happen any more than you do.
My most desired outcome is that I’m proven to be hilariously wrong, we win the championship, and everyone laughs at stupid dog.
Unfortunately we’re going to go down in the first round as a second seed to the fucking Celtics. You be upbeat about it if you want.
Take out Chandler, bring in KMart and Novak. Bring back that perimeter spacing.
someone mentioned that shump is horrible about leaving his man for no reason. this was apparent that half. shump (and others) can not continue to double players and allow the celts to swing the ball around the perimeter for the open corner three. if kg is going to beat us with turnaround 15 footers, so be it. if bass can torch us in the post, so be it. but no more stupid off the ball helping. please!!!
Adjustments:
+ more JR (only played 10 minutes in the first half)
+ no more Kidd on Pierce, put Shump on him fight through screens and don’t double Pierce
+Get up into Green, help off the dribble and force him to take contested mid-range jumpers or to make passes
+ Have Melo attack the paint….less mid range jumpers, attack and get fouled and look to be a playmaker
Melo also hit some ridiculously tough shots, Ray hit a tough long two while being fouled, and we shot 6-10 from three. If one team got the better end of variance in that half, it was unfortunately probably us.
Let’s just keep doing our thing, but be a little smarter. See y’all after the win.
Jesus, our offense is just getting exposed like a stripper’s tits
Can’t get in the paint
Why are they waiting so long to get in the offense? Why are Chandler’s picks so bad?
See melo. pass the dang ball lol
Does Shumpert know how to catch a basketball? Holy shit he’s fumbled like four balls out of bounds in this game.
Shumpert playing anxious, cannot fault him for that. But woody n kidd need to settle him down.
You do want this to happen. It’s fairly obvious. Trying to justify your negative attitude because you’re a wounded fan is hilarity. You’re the only Knicks fan that has stuck with them through all the horrible years they’ve had? For realz? Drop the act.
If you wanna hate, just hate. There’s plenty to criticize and justifiably so (looking at you, Chandler). So stop half-stepping with flimsy excuses because it just reveals a shocking insecurity. Which is being picked up upon by more than a few posters. Hence the hostility.
did both teams go on drinking binges during halftime??
Now that’s more like it
Man shump has no clue how to take it to the basket
This. It’s just weird.
If we defend like this for the rest of the series there is no doubt as to the outcome. Our offense is hurting without Prigioni because it moves Felton to an on the ball position without anybody nearly as capable at him penetrating playing off the ball. That constant threat of penetration and multiple pick and rolls is what gets Carmelo positive isolation looks and our three point game.
Expected 1st game jitters for Cope. He’s just not looked confident out there. Hopefully we get a better Cope throughout the series / playoffs. Shump has also looked unsteady. JR in full EFF You mode however
no. 1 thing he needs to work on this offseason. That and off-ball D
Chandler is death
I am really getting pissed of with Chandler’s dispirited performance. Not rolling to the rim and then just conceding ground to Green. Wake he fuck up pal.
Breen is hilarious….that was clearly a block on bradley
Chandler should be stepping in for the charge there wtf
Terrible terrible offense. Taking way too long to get into sets
Is it me, or should it not be the case that jeff green>tyson on that play?
Put kmart in or the other center. its clear ty isnt %100
this is just strange. how can chandler be so inviible?? this is the type of series he lives for. he must not be right. maybe he just needs to get his legs under him
Take Chandler out and put in Kenyon..he’s providing no help D
now THATS ball movement!
LETS GO BABY!
now THAT’s a pick and roll play!
Kenyon already done more than Tyson
when melo dribbles between his legs, its death to the possession. his handle betwen the legs is slow and sloppy. just needs to gun away or duck the head and go to the hole
Cant get any momentum. Melo totally afraid to go ha
= go inside
Pierce’s shot looks broken, I like our chances if their offense comes down to green making contested shots
Look I get that Melo gets a shitty whistle and he has some legitimate gripes but his attitude today is just childish. Ok complain the first couple of times you don’t get a call, but then adjust. Don’t do the same shit over and over and act shocked when the results are the same. Also we need way better floor spacing.
Melo needs to stop pressing and pass. Draw and kick or just move the ball.
so many bricked jumpers from melo
who fouled pierce??? both men got all ball
All ball no foul
JR or someone else needs to be more aggressive. They’re just passing it to Melo with hte shot clock running down and standing around.
our offense just looks…clunky..
ohhh boy
This offense is hideous
I think I have better insight into what I want than you do. Shocking insecurity as to this team is utterly justified. We’re on the verge of collapsing at home to the 7th seed. Stop telling me how I feel or should feel about it.
I’m pessimistic. I don’t think out team is really very good. I don’t think we’ll win this game or series. I dont’ want any of this to be so. Deal with it.
Breen and Doc Rivers shocked at the foul calls
Breen is really ridiculous. It’s honestly like he gets payed to act personally aggrieved any time the Knicks get the benefit of a whistle.
Pierce, Green and Bradley are playing about as well as they could have hoped. In the meantime, Melo is shooting poorly, JR is playing awful defense and is shooting poorly now, and Felton is playing so-so.
We’re only down 3.
Frankly, I like our chances this series, if not this game.
Melo n jr missing easy shots isn’t good….breen slurping pierce is making me wanna vomit lmao
Melo really needs to either attack, get in the post or pass and move the ball quickly. We can’t rely on Melo to win this game for us. The team has to win. I hope they and Melo realize this. #NO HEROBALL PLEASE
we REALLY need a superstar 4th from melo here (and not one from pierce)
cope on KG. i like it. open up the floor on offense
I like our chances in this game.
hey bad jr. where have you been bruh!? havent seen you in a while…
Smith missing wide open 3s
that was the ugliest offense to ever lead to a layup. if JR wants to show he the best sub in the league, he needs to be able to take control with melo on the bench
please baby heyzeus make this free throw…
Got to love the fight. Kidd is a basketball savant
lol. we meet again
You do have better insight. Which is probably why my comment was so cutting. And nothing in this response actually detracts from my comment. Not surprising.
you can tell kidd is from the other era..
WHY ARE THEY TAKING SO LONG TO GET INTO THE FUCKING OFFENSE?????????
Damn. That layup by Ray :-/
Lol breen….complains about the delay on the Melo foul but says nothing when pierce falls on his on own and gets the call….why does he always have to get our national games too?
Raymond Felton really needs to be more aggressive, I’m not sure the Celtics have an answer for his penetration.
Jr has been pretty bad on open jumpers today smh
Boston’s bench players will go back to the bench now
There are like a million time outs this game!
That was such a dive by Pierce. This is shameful.
I’m waiting for K-Mart to kill someone now. Looking forward to a hard foul on someone.
Not smart, JR. Not smart.
lets end this now melo, EYE OF THE TIGER BABY!
Kidd on Pierce is stupid…
what a big shot by pierce…. and then….JR!!!!!!!!!!
So good, Jr. So good.
that was Jordanesque by JR….
The SWEET JR TAKE!!!
Good JR! whaddup bruh!? You stopping by or you gonna stay for the whole facken series?
I actually think Felton has played great overall
Hahaha
Guys at the end of the day you’re going to occasionally miss open jumpers, the important thing is to keep getting those types of shots which will eventually go in. Overall I think this team’s done decent considering that Tyson chandler has basically been invisible and prigs is missing.
lol. this is killing me
I agree. I’ve loved the little duck. I want him to be even more aggressive. If it’s a 3 headed offensive monster out there (with Chandler adding nothing)….we need Felton to step up alongside Carmelo and JR
The only thing that makes me sad is that Woodson will bring in Chandler (0 pts, 5 rebs, 0 blks) at some point to finish the game instead of sticking with KMart (8 pts, 8 rebs, 2 blks) who has been great.
My facepalm is reading itself.
glad i could be of service…lol
Jason fucking Kidd!
Wtf Earl
Kidd to the rescue again.
make free throws pleez!!
JKidd is a fighter…
make the FTs
God Bless that happy feet look a like knickerbocker…playing your heart out…
great steal
Our rebounding is saving us
we cant make the big shot
if we depend and truly truly believe in our Defense…this will be a 4 game series…
yeah. jr, kidd, and felton are doing a great job throwing their bodies in there and crashing on the boards. especially jr
Our defense this half has in fact been pretty damn good. We need to initiate the offense faster though. Tired legs??
Could Woodson have even realized how well KMart is playing??? *knocks on wood* We can’t hit an open shot if our life depended on it, but damn is our defense grooving.
I’m glad Chandler is still on the bench. Maybe he’ll wake up or maybe he’s still injured and shouldn’t be playing.
Defense is winning this game for us
Man, Celts down 3, Paul Pierce licking his chops, twinkle in his eye, Pierce about to take that 3, then JR fresh from bitching about a call comes back and swipes victory from the jaws of defeat… if one sequence sums up JR ….that was just it.
Kidd!
Kidd is making his money today on D.
So, dogrufus, why not chip in with a positive comment now?
Melo
HE’S A BAAAAAD MAAAN!
Also, Melo!
i HATE our down the stretch offense, but I LOVE that shot
EAT THAT! Dogrus you still around bro?
MELO!!!
Melo with the dagger!?!
Put those fists in the air, New York.
he’s in the garage with the car on…
Melo with the dagger!
Martin much more effective on both ends of court. That’s it. Chandler will eventually get going, you have to figure.
Regardless, this team will not be denied.
Loved Melos demeanor after hitting that shot. Ice cold killer style.
if they score, we need to stay agressive on offense. that means getting into the offense quickly. i dont care who shoots, just make it a good shot (meaning, no need to force it to melo)
Kenyon Martin was a fucking great pickup. Out lineup is pretty much all castoffs and Carmelo and it works!
the turnover orebound/advantage over this Celtics team is biggest edge.
they are still a great defensive team. We’ll see if they can sustain that for an entire series.
Look, Kidd’s been a beast on D today, but he shouldn’t be on Green tho
Thank god Terry sucks, think about if ray Allen was in his place
If we didn’t have Martin… we would have been fucked today
WHAT A PASS
Melo….first assist…best assist! Lebronesque
WHAT A FREAKIN ASSIST!!!!! MELO!!
well. we did everything wrong on that offensive possession, except for the c’s left a man open right under the hoop. i’ll take it
Oh did Melo just play team ball? Breen just shit himself.
Melo with the assist to Martin for the win!
Anyone predict that?
KMart has a huge heart, extremely intelligent, and really underrated ability to do a least of things well.
will not look great statistically but he’s a pure winner.
THAT
IS
WHAT
I’M
TALKIN’
ABOUT!!!!!!!
please stop. no comparisons to lebron. a) they are not apt. b) we all (should) hate lebron
Martin and Birdman have been the two biggest pick ups during the season in the eastern conference…
AMEN! What a godsend.
great win!!!! adjustments to be made, but I will take the win!!!!
8 pts in the 4th quarter. Unbelievable. Is that an NBA record low for the playoffs????
So it begins.
25 second half points for the Cs. Good D!
Offense was… at best… scrappy.
But 25 pts allowed in the half? Manly effort.
YESSSS!!!
Seriously, the milenium Nets saved our asses today
Think the 4th quarter defense was top 5 going into the playoffs. I’ll check.
That was sweet. We won that game with our DEFENSE..not three pointers. Kenyon was huge, Kidd was huge on D. Interestingly don’t think either Novak or Cope cracked double digit minutes. And I’m glad Woody stuck with Martin and didn’t feel obligated to put the All-Star Center back in the game. Great, great win!
The next couple of days are going to be sweet.
Knicks post game on MSG folks…
Jeff Green scored 6 pts in the 2nd half, Jason Terry scored 0. I mean if we score 90+, I think it’s going to be tough for the Celts to keep up on the offensive end. Their defense however was very good at times this game…ours was outrageous in the 2nd half. I wonder if you look at our quarter splits, I’d bet we’re a top 10 defense in 2nd half and fourth quarter defense…it’s seemed to be a theme all season.
Huge game from Kidd and Kmart, I thought Felton was decent as well. If Melo and Earl made their open jumpers this woulda been an easier victory. Also Jeff Green showed the difference btwn a star and just a good player
Got home in time to watch the entire 4th quarter. Fitting JVG was calling the game cause this was a win straight out of the JVG era.
Boston just doesnt have enough offense and specifically ball-handling to win this series. Was very frustrated/perplexed with the Knicks offense in the 4th but thankfully we got Melo and Boston doesnt. Ugly win but will gladly take it, still feeling good about the Knicks winning this series in 5.
Easier said than done, Max. This is the playoffs, and so ball entry and man defense are allowed to be very tight.
When you have Bradley, KG, Green and good team defenders around them, in a playoff situation, it’s next to impossible to create good offense consistently.
Again today we see the value Amar’e provides in terms of establishing an inside out presence.
Remember, in 7 games last year the Heat scored 100 points or more in regulation just once.
The Heat.
And that was without Green.
The Celtics allowed 100 or more points in 1 of 20 playoff games last year.
Don’t have too much fun lol
Offense gets ugly in the playoffs, cliche as that is, at least when you have quality defensive teams.
That’s why guys who can make difficult/guarded shots have even more value in the postseason.
a) it was a great pass, b) I can compare two things two people do w/o saying they are the same, c) I’ll hate Lebron when he plays the Knicks.
Also Im sure it has been mentioned already today and certainly has been mentioned throughout the season but man gotta say again, AMAZING hands Kidd has on D. He probably got mostly arm on some of them too but he usually gets the benefit of the doubt from the refs which is fine with me lol.
Interested to see game 2 adjustments. I thought Knicks team defense was great and the doubles really started to work and the rotations got tight in the second half.
That long two on green was rediculous
My thing with the offense was they literally would wait until under 10 secs were left on the shot clock to do anything and alot of the times they never got the ball in Melo’s hands. I was screaming to get him the ball early in the clock and let him go to work with some time left on the clock.
It was getting to the point where after a few horrible floater looking shots and heaves from 3 late in the clock (none of them from Melo) I was screaming next time Melo shoots and I dont care if he has all 5 guys on him lol.
Knicks had 15 steals, led by Melo with 4. But Kidd’s were no doubt the biggest
Dogrufus apparently has his tail between his legs right now, pun intended.
Thank God for Kenyon Martin. What a huge difference maker. He really brings some bad ass toughness to the table that this team sorely needs.
This was a great opportunity for the Celtics to steal a game and they couldn’t do it.
We won that game because we got 15 steals. Going forward, we need either Melo or JR to actually hit some shots. And thank God for K Mart. I don’t know if Tyson was rusty or still hurt, but we would have been totally boned without a plan B bigman. What’s the word on Priggy Smalls?
They need to have Melo be the primary roll player and then have him stagger screen the weakside so that he’ll have a clear side.
The one flex screen is not opening up enough space.
Knicks need to him a couple backdoors to loosen up Boston’s fronting, and you can’t do that with just one or two actions because Boston’s defense is so disciplined on the weakside.
It’s just one more step.
Credit to Mike Woodson. I rage against him frequently, mostly because I’m a control freak, but he kept an even keel and trusted that our superiority would bear out in time, and it did.
Smart to go with Martin. Obvious, but it still bore a little risk to play Martin over Chandler.
I’ve backed off the ledge. Until Tuesday.
Go Knicks!
Martin and Kidd were amazing, Martin has singlehandedly saved this team (along with JR’s transformation).
and yeah, get into the offense a bit quicker, it’s like they didn’t even realize there was a 24 second clock on a handful of those late possessions. nice game by Felton too.
can’t wait to see Chandler get an A in the recap… :)
and I can’t believe I’m saying this, but hurry back, Prigioni.
Melo will attack them differently over the course of the series. He’s going to have some at the basket games with how Boston is defending him.
I actually think his 36 could be one of his lower outputs if Boston continues to single him, which appears to be their long term plan.
I’ma get drunk! Knicks playoff win, bro.
I think we should start White instead of Copeland. I know that sounds terrible. But he is a better defender. With all the switches being made, he’ll be a help against Bradley, Green and Pierce in the 1st quarter. Celtics’ first-string defense just shut Copeland down.
Hopefully, Chandler takes these next few days to eat some humble pie. He got benched, plain and simple. He needs to play better in the first half, no question, and not coast on last year’s near-meaningless (shortened season) defensive performance. But even if he doesn’t come out with more fire and finesse, at least Woodson has been struck by inspiration and realized KMart can shoulder the lion-share of minutes in tight games.
You’re right..it sounds terrible…. because it is
Offensive rebounding and turnover differential will be the prime advantages.
Knicks are a better spot-up shooting team. Period. That’s a third advantage.
Celtics got the better whistle, made every free throw, got huge games from Green and Bradley and lost.
There are a lot of ways to look at it.
AGain, last year the Celtics held opponents below 100 points in regulation in 19 of 20 games, including 6/7 against fucking Miami.
The offense will get ugly.
Denver/GS. GS has the best player.
I thought Copeland was very solid on defense.
He can have a Jeff Green game in this series.
That defense felt really infectious in the 4th quarter. Really liked the game Felton and Kidd put in. Kenyon’s energy level is absolutely amazing. Melo and JR had a lot that went in and out. I think they both need to drive to the basket a bit more, but we need to put in a few things to alleviate the ball pressure because the Celtics are waiting for it.
Last year the Celtics were a different team. I still think we win in 5, but that was an ugly game by our offense.
Garnett and Pierce looked like they had no energy in the 4th quarter. They looked old. Did you see Pierce make thag lazy pass, and then let Melo get the angle on him on the fast break?
Holy crap, Celtics bench was 0 or 7 for 4 pts.
Also, I think this was a great opening game. It gave the Knicks confidence that they can win when the shots aren’t falling. Not a lot heads hanging, even when they got down in the third. Winning the series over a team that owned the division and was seemingly looking forward to this matchup could mean great things for confidence going into the next series.
Jason Terry is just awful. And I love it (along with basically everybody else, lol). Called every single one of his misses with glee.
Green and pierce 6 TOs each lol
B-U-T-ful Team D just owned the sagging Cs; crushed them even though the Knicks offense was off and TS was lame. Most steals, most important steals don’t matter. The Team D was the whole deal and will only get better when Prig and the real TS return. Step 1 of Operation Demoralizing Smackdown complete. Any game when the Knicks Offense also clicks won’t be close.
Im excited to see if we make adjustments for the 2nd game fix our offense while retaining that 2nd half tenacious D.
TC not TS.
“I love it. Playoffs are my type of basketball because you’re playing every possession with heart and passion. There is no tomorrow,” Chandler said. “Every possession can determine the outcome of the series. There’s nothing like it. I love the intensity.”
Irony is irony. Step it up, Tyson.
I’ve said it before, and I hope to say it again:
This is a GREAT time to be a Knick fan.
exactly. expecially towards the end of the game. ruru knows what we are talking about, hes just trying to be contrary
ruru. if amare plays, we prob dont win this game. k mart wouldnt have gotten his minutes. amare prob would have score 13 on 5-10 shooting, 3-4 from the line, and screwed up our team defense while he was out there. the idea of amare sounds good in a vacuum, but this roster gives us the best chance. its just the reality
Doc in his postgame press conference said he was most disappointed with allowing Melo to catch the ball late in the shot clock. Celtics plan is clearly deny him the ball and force the Knicks into those awful looking possessions where Felton or JR have to take some crazy shot as the shot clock expires.
Pretty disappointed with ESPN just now. Watched halftime of the Nuggets-Warriors game expecting to see some Knicks-Celtics highlights and a discussion of the game and nothing. It was as if they didnt even play earlier. Guarantee if the Knicks had lost there wouldve been alot of discussion of the game.
yeah, im actually interested to see if woodson is contemplating a lineup that has cope at the 5 with melo at the 4 when the cs have kg in there. it would really space the celtics out on defnese, and i dont get the sense that kg at this point would kill us on the offensive glass or in the paint. we will basically get the 12 foot turnarounds he gets anyways. now, of course we will have no rim protection, so the guards would have to keep their men in front of them, but it could be a lineup that could put up some points (read, open threes) for us
I’d take 18 minutes of Amare over Copeland/Novak’s combined 18 minutes any day. Seems obvious at this point. Celtics play big, and STAT wouldn’t have taken KMart’s minutes but played PF. I’m pretty positive that we would have shifted Melo into the SF position, which would have been great.
Interesting stat from ESPN Stats:
“Perhaps influenced by a hot first couple of minutes, Carmelo Anthony passed the ball on only three of 26 touches in the first half, and after his hot start, he missed 11 of his last 13 shots in the half.
In the second half, Anthony took a different approach. He passed 15 times on his 33 touches, the most important of which resulted in a key Kenyon Martin layup late in the game”
This is the kind of repetition we welcome in contrast to the annoying cuckoo-clock-like interruptions of that troll Dog guy. Our team gutted out a gritty victory: “What doesn’t kill us will make us stronger.” Sure I’d much prefer the Hawks right now but if we can emerge victorious, we’ll be that much better (if our entire team is not in the hospital). The Mavs last season gave OKC a real scare in the first 2 games in Oklahoma and then folded mainly due to age. If we can win the next game, we should be in good shape.
The Knicks just have a big built-in advantage against the Celtics because of the turnovers and offensive rebounds. So many extra possessions. The C’s have to either shoot out of their minds, play completely lockdown defense or hope the Knicks have an uncharacteristically bad day with turnovers to have much of a chance.
They were 19-19 from the line today and still lost, because the Knicks took 14 more FGA.
The Knicks advantage is that Celtics are playing without their best player: Rajon Rondo. And while BOS made a praise-worthy effort to salvage a post-season appearance with some inspired team play during the season, they shouldn’t expect to take down the Knicks.
Even Bill Simmons noted that a 4 pt lead at the half was about as much as BOS fans could hope for. Which is kind of a sad statement in and of itself. BOS needs a divine performance from Pierce or Garnett to take a game (or a horrible injury to a Knick). Simple as that.
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