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Thursday, April 24, 2014

Pacers 81, Knicks 76

New York Knicks 76 Final
Recap | Box Score
81 Indiana Pacers

When you were a kid, did you ever do something so horrendously wrong, so inconceivably cruel, inhuman and thoughtless that your parents wouldn’t even yell or get angry, they’d just semi-collapse in a defeated, enervated heap of profound disappointment, as if whatever the thing or things it is you did was such a violation/betrayal of every ideal they thought they might have instilled in you?

I certainly did. I’m sure there are vast herds of beautiful, perfect youths out there who have no idea what I’m talking about, but I’m almost as sure that that same miniscule sub-genus of humanity would never deign to sully their blight/trouble/blemish/worry-free existence by becoming Knicks fans.

So if you would, take a moment and think back to whatever horrid act you may have perpetrated and try to recall the look upon your Mother’s or Father’s (or both) face. For me, that moment was worse than getting a thorough, ear-splitting tongue-lashing (And believe you me, I come from a family of professional-grade shouters.).

I mention all this, because I can only hope that that’s what Mike Woodson, who supposedly shares my folks’ proclivity for voicing displeasure in as high-decibel a manner possible, just sits them down and gives them a weary, beaten death-stare. If it’s necessary, Coach can trek to my pad and study my visage as a template, because right now I just feel sick.

So, in the spirit of withering glances and reams of disgust, there won’t be any grades tonight. For those of you who desperately crave some form of alphabetical quantification, here’s everyone’s grade:

In a picture-is-worth-a-thousand-words kind of way, I think it does an outstanding job of not only summarizing the ‘Bockers’ efforts tonight, but also getting to the essence of what I assume is the base line emotional state for any Knick fan who had the misfortune of slogging through that so-called basketball game.

I assume a good portion of you were lucky enough to be spending an evening with their loved one(s) or perhaps broadening one’s cultural horizons by enjoying any number of the performances of the lively arts or catching up on one’s bookkeeping duties or running a cheese grater repeatedly over one’s inner thigh and then dousing the area with a fine coating of salt and vinegar or any number of activities that would have proved infinitely more pleasant and missed the galling proceedings. if so, the rest of here’s what happened…

Once Melo was sent to Elba for his Napoleonic fit of rage, this was going to be a tough game to win. After an early season swoon, they’ve been putting forth some sterling defensive outings. So without a cat who’s been netting 31.9 PPG over the last ten, saying/thinking the New Yorkers would struggle to score is a prediction/wager that one would feel comfortable taking out a third mortgage to double down upon. But dear God(s), that was one of the most atrocious, aesthetically-unpleasing, pigs-wrestling-in-a-fetid-brackish-mud-hole games we’ve witnessed in a long, long time.

For those who still carry a torch for the mid 90’s wars and fondly recall post-season encounters at the [Insert Unmemorable Financial Institution here] Fieldhouse that were more Thunderdome-style gladiatorial abattoirs than professional sporting events, well, here’s a reminder that our memories are often coated with a sepia-toned warmth for a reason. If we were to truly recall how godawful those games were (except, you know, for the Knicks winning a lot of them part) we’d all be put under 24-hr. observation in some soft-walled, fluorescent-lit room with our shoelaces and belts removed for our own safety.

Tonight, the Knicks just couldn’t for the life of them figure out how to run a half-decent offensive set for pretty much the entire game. Although, like some kind of impishly cruel, cosmic joke, on the last few possessions, the whole ‘Ball movement” thing magically reappeared.

The 1st quarter ended with the score 16-14 (not a type-o). Some snarky wag on the Twitter said, “Fever 16, Liberty 14 at the end of one.” (Spoiler alert for the link-averse: it was me.) They managed to snaggle a couple of Marcus Camby floaters/runners, of all things. Honestly, I think Marcus Camby is actually a 5’11” point guard trapped in Marcus’ Camby’s body. For the most part, the offense (so to speak) consisted of attempting to ram Chris Copeland’s dreadlocked square peg into the missing ‘Melo round hole, which worked about as well as one might imagine.

In the 2nd stanza, STAT got to roll and as has been the case in the prior four games since his return, either gorted what used to be automatic 15’ jumpers (which is a thoroughly nauseating thing. I hate it so) or executed a series of explosion-free, flailing drives to the tin all while displaying the putrid defense we’ve grown all-too accustomed to. I could go into greater detail, but I believe it’s prohibited under the terms of the Geneva Convention, and I don’t have a team of 3–piece suited Harvard/Yale-educated lawyers at hand who might be able to exempt me from cumbersome, binding, international agreements. If you’re a true glutton for punishment, you can read an outstanding autopsy at Hardwood Paroxysm here.

It was like that tonight. Same dilly. Wash. Rinse. Repeat. It’s not for a lack of effort on STAT’s part, it’s just that his energies are so misdirected—his befuddling attempt to molest Tyler Hansbrough 20’ from the tin being tonight’s Exhibit A. The Knicks even unveiled a zone for brief stretches when STAT was on the floor/to open the 3rd. I get the logic. Since rotating to a shooter/dealing with the pick and roll is not something you want Amar’e doing, you might as well just tell him, “Just stand there, STAT, and sort of guard whomever passes in front of your field of vision.”

In spite of all that, the defense tonight was pretty decent. That said, let’s not kid ourselves, they weren’t exactly channeling Thibodeau’s Bulls. Much of their success was due to the fact that the Indianans were just as putrid with the ball in their hands as they were devastatingly effective when the Knickerbockers had the rock.

After halftime, it looked for a brief, shining moment as if they’d managed to grind this one out, briefly retaking the lead. But then, in the final frame, it all went absolutely to pot. Nothing. Nada. Futile passes around the perimeter that only left the ball in J.R.’s hands with the shot clock running out, leading to contested shot after contested shot. Earl’s final, 11-29 shooting line looks downright execrable, but honestly, he was put in a no-win situation since neither Kidd (who was about as bad tonight as all of those [like me] who hated his signing over the summer feared he’d be with sloppy turnovers, and bricks as far as the eye could see) nor Prigs could seem to orchestrate anything resembling a pro offense. He was the only one capable of beating his man off the dribble or finding open ‘mates while at the same time was tasked with guarding with and being shadowed by a long, uber-athletic, shutdown wing defender in Paul George (who’s gonna be really, RILLY good [if he isn’t already]).

How bad was it? Look at this snapshot at the 5-minute mark, at which point they’d scored a grand total of one bucket.

And it was all so atrociously ugly. Carve your retinas out with a butter knife ugly. Stab a hatpin through your cerebral cortex in the hopes of short-circuiting the neurons that would retain the memory of this game ugly.

And the fact that it came at the hands of the fucking Pacers, with all of the old villains in attendance — Rik Smits cramming his cumbersome, gawky frame into an ill-fitting suit and an equally undersized luxury box, Donnie Walsh, master of the comb-over, looking on like an inmate that had been paroled from this madhouse, LaSalle Thompson, that steakheaded thug on the Knicks’ bench, Haywood Workman, gyrating like a Sufi mystic with a borderline ecstatic glee at every call that went against the Gothamites (Seriously, NBA, Haywood Workman reffing a game in Indiana v. NY? Way to erase the memory of Tim Donaghy. No appearance of bias at all. Kudos.), and worst of all, that palsied twit, Reggie Miller adding his inane, witless, hackneyed “commentary” throughout.

I could go on and on, but that was maddeningly enraging. Heck, I’ve got a whole 300 words on Woodson’s stupefying insistence on cramming STAT into the lineup at the end of the game despite the fact that they retook the lead/were able to properly space the floor at the end of the 3rd when his 100 million dollar tuchus was firmly planted to the pine and his inability to cobble together anything resembling an effective play/make changes when it was clear the original game plan was just not working, but for the sake of all our sanity, we’ll save that for another evening.

In the end, I think we just all need to grimly accept that until Felton gets back and/or Melo can get a prescription for some serious serotonin reuptake inhibitors, they’re going to struggle.

Chicago’s next on this week of hate. Joy. A few minutes after the game, I got an email from my father which I think sums it up well/puts it all in the proper context.

That game was the lowest point in 3 years! [Editor’s Note: Like all of us, I think Pop has a selective memory, but I get the outrage. That’s probably pretty clear to y’all after reading the previous 1500 words.] Far more important, a new issue of Harper’s has a usual smarmy article by Thomas Frank (What’s the Matter With Kansas) in which he takes apart Lincoln (the movie and that incredibly overrated Doris Kearns Goodwin book) with this wonderful line about Spielberg: “The Michelangelo of the trite”. I should find it online edition and send it to you. This team seems headed for the mediocrity that was hidden for 35 games. Maybe they should go watch that movie together. It’s as overrated and ends as badly as they do.

You tell ‘em, Pop. Screw ‘em all. Spielberg, the state of Indiana, Lincoln, Goodwin, STAT, Woody, Reggie, Spike Lee, the fact that both Camby (sore foot) and Smith (balky knee) were seen hobbling and/or hunting around for crutches after the game, shattered dreams, lost causes, has-beens, never was, lost loves, the death of hope, an existence that is nasty, brutish, meaningless and short…the whole bunch. Stuff ‘em all into the dustbin of history with the force of this nifty J.R. Smith facial.

39 comments on “Pacers 81, Knicks 76

  1. Will the Thrill

    So, are we on pace to break the record for injuries in a season so far? The elders seemed to be perfect back when we were only 10 games into the season. Well, couldn’t say we didn’t see this coming..

  2. nicos

    Does every game have to be a referendum on Amar’e's defense? What possible reason is there to spend two paragraphs bemoaning his defense when it had almost nothing to do with the outcome of the game? Kidd’s inability to play the point against any kind of ball pressure is a lot more troubling to me than Amar’e's defense but that only warrants half a sentence. If you tracked every one of Chandler’s defensive possessions tonight- he lost track of Mahimi multiple times on plays that involved no rotations whatsoever- it’d look every bit as bad (and probably worse) than Amar’e's possessions in that hardwood paroxysm article. The worst thing Amar’e did tonight was miss a bunch of open jumpers (probably some of the best looks the Knicks got all night). If he’s still missing those 2 weeks from now that’ll be worth two paragraphs and a Geneva Convention reference. His defense tonight was at best a minor footnote and I’m not even sure it was worth that.

  3. ruruland

    nicos:
    Does every game have to be a referendum on Amar’e’s defense?What possible reason is there to spend two paragraphs bemoaning his defense when it had almost nothing to do with the outcome of the game?Kidd’s inability to play the point against any kind of ball pressure is a lot more troubling to me than Amar’e’s defense but that only warrants half a sentence.If you tracked every one of Chandler’s defensive possessions tonight- he lost track of Mahimi multiple times on plays that involved no rotations whatsoever- it’d look every bit as bad (and probably worse) than Amar’e’s possessions in that hardwood paroxysm article.The worst thing Amar’e did tonight was miss a bunch of open jumpers (probably some of the best looks the Knicks got all night).If he’s still missing those 2 weeks from now that’ll be worth two paragraphs and a Geneva Convention reference.His defense tonight was at best a minor footnote and I’m not even sure it was worth that.

    agreed

  4. flossy

    nicos:
    Does every game have to be a referendum on Amar’e’s defense?What possible reason is there to spend two paragraphs bemoaning his defense when it had almost nothing to do with the outcome of the game?Kidd’s inability to play the point against any kind of ball pressure is a lot more troubling to me than Amar’e’s defense but that only warrants half a sentence.If you tracked every one of Chandler’s defensive possessions tonight- he lost track of Mahimi multiple times on plays that involved no rotations whatsoever- it’d look every bit as bad (and probably worse) than Amar’e’s possessions in that hardwood paroxysm article.The worst thing Amar’e did tonight was miss a bunch of open jumpers (probably some of the best looks the Knicks got all night).If he’s still missing those 2 weeks from now that’ll be worth two paragraphs and a Geneva Convention reference.His defense tonight was at best a minor footnote and I’m not even sure it was worth that.

    Co-sign. As I mentioned in the game thread, Indy’s PFs went a combined 4-19 and had only one more total rebound than Amar’e himself did in half as many minutes. His defense was really not the problem.

  5. flossy

    You and your dad need to chill the fuck out! A team that is missing an MVP-candidate forward and its starting PG (or any PGs under 35) while simultaneously trying to re-incorporate another high-usage piece who has missed virtually the entire season to date struggles to score and ultimately loses a close game against the best defense in the NBA…

    and all of a sudden “this team seems headed for the mediocrity that was hidden for 35 games” blah blah blah “shattered dreams, lost causes, has-beens, never was, lost loves, the death of hope, an existence that is nasty, brutish, meaningless and short…the whole bunch?”

    Pull up your skirt, for god’s sake, it’s one game and this team is like 30% healthy!

  6. Hubert Davis

    Man this team needs a backup PG right now in the worst way. Jason Kidd is a 2 guard. Period. End of story.

    I think we should look into trading Novak for a legit backup 1. I can’t see him Steve providing a lot of value in the playoffs. He gets marked right out of these games vs the top East teams quite easily. If he could fetch us someone who could provide value now while Felton is out and later (to spell him when he’s shooting us out of a game) I think that would be much more valuable to us.

  7. JC Knickfan

    I think it’s time to cut James White and sign 10-day contract PG.
    Try Bi-polar Delonte West for 10 days see what happens.

    From what I read Felton targeting Jan 24 comeback. There is 4 games between now and 24th and think we need another PG who more of a scoring threat then Pablo.

  8. yellowboy90

    Is Scott Machodo still available. Also, if they are not going to use White why keep him. I think he has played pretty well given the time he’s gotten.

  9. Matt Smith

    Sorry to ruin the general optimism of the comments so far here, but I’m siding with Bob.

    While I agree Amare’s defense is atrocious, I think the majority of the blame has to be put on Woodson. Look, I get that we’ve been really sidetracked by injuries. I don’t expect this team to win every game by 10 points like we were at the beginning of the season. But I do expect the coaching to be consistent.

    My biggest two issues (both have been mentioned several times here already, but still):
    -His defensive coaching. ‘Switch on everything’ needs to go. I was yelling at the TV every time I saw Kidd guarding a center in the low post. The Pacers aren’t a good enough offensively to capitalize on those mismatches, but we’re going to get burned badly by competent offensive team. Also, the ‘double everyone’ strategy makes no sense. For instance, when Hibbert (who thus far had scored two points) is on the wing with the DPOY on him, there is NO NEED to send JR Smith to double him. The above two strategies gave Indiana TONS of open looks (especially from 3), and we were lucky they didn’t hit a lot more of them.

    -His lineups. There are too many times where they make absolutely no sense. Examples: There’s no reason not to start Melo at the 4, yet Woody insists on putting in Camby to start games. He doesn’t understand when to use Novak. Novak doesn’t create his offense, but he allows a creator a ton of space by forcing his defender to stick to him. Yet Woody will put him in with a lineup with no creators that can use him, and wonder why he doesn’t score any points. Finally, he’ll put in lineups with no shot creators at all. It’s just infuriating, and I hope he figures it out soon, because our injuries will probably be continuous throughout the season.

  10. StatsTeacher

    Unfortunately, Machado is not ready. In his few appearances with Houston, he was overmatched and he has little scoring ability. I think he was scoring about 12 ppg’s in the d-league. Rockets signed Beverley and waived Machado, though they might try and keep Machado on the Rio Grande Vipers.

  11. StatsTeacher

    Can Sessions be pried away from CHA ? That would shore things up till Felton got back — but for 4 games, might not be worth messin’ with the roster.

  12. flossy

    StatsTeacher:
    Can Sessions be pried away from CHA ?That would shore things up till Felton got back — but for 4 games, might not be worth messin’ with the roster.

    Ramon Sessions would arguably be an upgrade over Felton, period. At the very least, a lateral move. There’s no way we can trade some spare parts for him, and I highly doubt the Knicks FO is going to change horses in midstream by trading Felton after the team’s hot start.

  13. StatsTeacher

    flossy — Yeah, you’re right, but they only play him 25 mins/night and I am not sure he is in their “long term plans” if CHA has those. He makes $5 mil/year, so I have to agree — no way at this point. Stupid (dreamy) suggestion on my part.

  14. JC Knickfan

    StatsTeacher:
    Unfortunately, Machado is not ready.In his few appearances with Houston, he was overmatched and he has little scoring ability.I think he was scoring about 12 ppg’s in the d-league.Rockets signed Beverley and waived Machado, though they might try and keep Machado on the Rio Grande Vipers.

    The link above on Draftexpress has D-league stat.
    32 min, 12ppg, 38.5 % FG 29.7 3pt%, 7.1 assists, 3.9 TOV
    I watch bit of his game tape and his d-fense is horrendous and very turnover prone.

  15. StatsTeacher

    Macado couldn’t stay on the court in garbage time — HOU had to play him with Lin or Douglas. Surprising, his assist #’s are very high. Fool’s gold, I guess.

  16. d-mar

    I’m really starting to worry whether we’ll ever see Amare return to some semblance of his early 2010-2011 form. I understand he’s just getting back into it, but here’s what I’m seeing:

    “Old” Amare – explosive getting to the basket, finishing with ferocious dunks (see game 1 vs. Boston 1 1/2 years ago) or at a minimum drawing a foul

    “New” Amare – awkward moves trying to get to the basket, barreling over people, getting his shot blocked

    “Old” Amare – almost automatic from 10-15 feet, whether on a catch and shoot or after a couple of jab steps

    “New” Amare – brick after brick after brick

    I am a huge Amare fan, and will never forget that first season as a Knick when he brought excitement back to MSG, but I’m concerned that he may never be the same player. And I really really hope I’m wrong, because we need him come playoff time.

  17. Matt Smith

    d-mar, I’m also a big Amare fan. I’m also a believer that he’ll get his jumpshot back, once he adjusts for the fact that he doesn’t jump as high.

    However, I really think his explosiveness might be gone for good. I’m not sure exactly why people think you regain that kind of athleticism. The greats adjusted their game to their diminished athletic ability – ostensibly, this is why he trained with Hakeem in the offseason. But it seems like Amare hasn’t been able to beat anyone off the dribble, and I have yet to see any of the moves he’s picked up from Hakeem.

    I’m willing to give him more time, obviously, but from what I’ve seen he looks bad. And I really doubt he’ll ever become a good defensive player if he hasn’t learned yet.

  18. flossy

    I don’t know, maybe I’m wishing and not thinking re: Amar’e but I saw a few nice left-handed finishes in the paint last night, and he seems to have been working on a baby hook shot he can shoot with both hands, which is a nice thing to add to any big man’s arsenal. He blew by Brandon Bass for a dunk in the game against Boston.

    He did get his shot blocked last night, by one of the leading shot blockers in the NBA (as did Chandler), but I haven’t seen anything (in his miniscule sample size of 104 mins) that’s made me think he can’t be an effective secondary or tertiary scoring option on a contending team.

    It’s important, also, to recognize that our offense is horrible right now in general. We have no PG that can get into the paint with any consistency, hell, JR Smith has become our de facto PG and every 3rd possession last night ended with him throwing up a prayer.

    Amar’e is the kind of player who thrives in a a continuity offense with ball movement and player movement and frankly, there has been little rhyme or reason to the offense with Felton out, Melo in and out of the line-up, and Amar’e playing limited minutes after not playing whatsoever for like 7 months.

    He’s clearly no longer a player who can come in cold and dominate a game under any circumstances, and he never will be again. If we’re arguing whether he’s worth his salary, there’s no argument there. But short of a Chuck Knoblauch-ian sudden loss of any and all mid-range jump shooting ability (and he has hit a few jumpers since his return, so I’m not that concerned), I think in the long run if he can stay healthy he’ll be fine and a big piece of any success the Knicks have in the postseason.

    Certainly I think all the gloom and doom after his first 100 minutes, played under adverse circumstances, is unwarranted, as is all the “OMG he made a mistake on defense!!” talk, as if the rest of the Knicks have just been killing it in that department recently.

  19. jon abbey

    when Shumpert is back, JR Smith can play some PG if necessary. I think between Shumpert/Smith/Felton/Kidd, we have more than enough to cover the 96 minutes at the two guard positions when everyone is healthy.

    but yeah, no reason to panic, even after (if) we lose again tonight.

  20. Juany8

    On the bright side, the Knicks still somehow have a shot at the top seed. Whatever is going on in Miami, it’s giving the Knicks time to get healthy

  21. d-mar

    @23 – I think that’s a fair way to look at it. And I’m not one of those who keeps harping on Amare’s defense, it is what it is and he’s no worse or better at it than when he first came here.

    And man, do I miss Raymond Felton. He may miss a lot of shots, but he doesn’t turn the ball over and does find his way into the paint to create opportunities for others. I’m concerned we’re running Kidd into the ground, but there’s not much choice given how shaky Prigs has been lately.

  22. Frank

    I really don’t think Amare was an issue on D last night. Certainly the game before he was, but last night I thought he was generally fine. I thought he rebounded the ball very well (TRR 17.6).

    We lost last night because we kept throwing the ball to Paul George, and because JR couldn’t buy a bucket. JR missed A LOT of open shots last night. And when they put Paul George (who is a WOW on-ball defender) on JR, there was basically zero chance of getting any penetration. Prigs did a decent job on a few of those PNRs with Chandler, but we devolved into iso basketball for the most part in the 4th quarter.

    Other thoughts – I continue to overall impressed with Amare’s post game. I know he’s not necessarily hitting a lot of those shots (yet), but he’s getting great position for the most part. Some of them are getting blocked, but I think we should all expect some of his explosiveness to come back. He looks very similar to how he looked at the beginning of last year, and he definitely got stronger as the season went on.

    And re: playing him at the end — this is a LONG season. Woodson needs to figure out how to play guys and how the team is going to work. This isn’t Popovich with basically the same team every year. Woody has a bunch of tweaking to do.

  23. nicos

    Amar’e looks like he did in the first half of the season last year- he hasn’t had a lot of trouble getting into the lane off of the dribble but he’s struggled to finish over rotating bigs. He drove right by a decent defender in Hansbrough and got blocked by Hibbert a couple of times- a half a step quicker and that’s a lay-up or at least a drawn foul. He got that extra half-step back in the second half last year when he dropped the extra weight he was carrying due to his back issues and put up pretty good numbers (.600 TS% even while missing a lot of jumpers) so I think there’s good reason to believe that if he can get his legs under him, he’ll be fine. If his knee’s going to be sore all year, then yeah, it could be rough.

  24. Matt Smith

    I agree that Amare’s defense hasn’t changed. The reason why we didn’t talk about it as much for the last two seasons is because he buoyed our offense more than enough to offset his defensive lapses. Now, he has to prove that he can still do that, and I haven’t seen it so far.

    I’m not throwing his minutes to the wind just yet – we’ve played very few games, and I think a lot of his miscues have been due to Woody’s lineups – but I’m much more willing to pull the plug on him earlier this year, since I know what this team is capable of. (I’m also wary of any sample-size arguments – I sat through a slew of them last year about the Melo/Amare pairing, and it wasn’t until this season that people finally conceded that it largely doesn’t work out. Some people still haven’t made that concession).

  25. Matt Smith

    Another note on Woodson – am I the only one who was irate when he didn’t call a timeout when Camby was clearly hurt? Not only clearly hurt, but Camby actually SIGNALLED for him to call a timeout and Woodson just stood there. That’s not bad coaching, that’s putting one of your own at risk. And the reward was a steal+dunk from Paul George.

  26. Brian Cronin

    On the bright side, the Knicks still somehow have a shot at the top seed. Whatever is going on in Miami, it’s giving the Knicks time to get healthy

    Yeah, the same with the Hawks’ recent collapse when it looked like they were poised to pass the Knicks. I will take it!

  27. ruruland

    Amar’e has apparently shown that pop and bounce in practice since he returned.

    It takes time to get your legs in good enough shape to get close to a max jump after 10 sprints and knee bends in the post, a few close-outs etc.

    I would be surprised if Amar’e didn’t eventually return to the form he had in ’10 and ’11 where he was quite dominant for very long stretches. His off-season was better than Melo’s, and Melo had an unbelievable off-season.

    We’re seeing acceleration and agility that he didn’t have at the beginning of last season when he was heavy.

    Dirk has a .497 TS in his first ten games. It takes time.

    Meanwhile, Doc keeps talking about Melo/KG. Now, apparently, KG didn’t say anything at all.

    If this doesn’t piss you off….http://www.newsday.com/sports/basketball/knicks/doc-rivers-says-carmelo-anthony-is-to-blame-he-did-something-crazy-1.4432119

  28. Frank

    off topic, but all this handwringing about the Lakers has me thinking that if the Lakers don’t make the playoffs, Artest is likely to get the amnesty treatment after this season. He’s always wanted to play for the Knicks, and so one would think that if he makes it through waivers (no sure thing), he might be a very very nice pickup, especially since a bunch of guys on this team might be gone next year. He can still play D with the best of them, and is still usable piece on offense. Shump, Artest, Tyson is the core of a REALLY good defense.

  29. ruruland

    Frank:
    off topic, but all this handwringing about the Lakers has me thinking that if the Lakers don’t make the playoffs, Artest is likely to get the amnesty treatment after this season.He’s always wanted to play for the Knicks, and so one would think that if he makes it through waivers (no sure thing), he might be a very very nice pickup, especially since a bunch of guys on this team might be gone next year.He can still play D with the best of them, and is still usable piece on offense. Shump, Artest, Tyson is the core of a REALLY good defense.

    Artest has been great this year. Big fan and little doubt he’d be motivated coming back home and playing in a defensive culture again.

    he’s 34th in the league against isolations (.61 ppp) and 11th against post-ups. Still dominant and he turns his great possessions into steals and transition quite frequently. (he’s had the best defensive Synergy numbers of any top wing defender in ’10 and ’11 before dropping off last year when he was overweight).

    His offensive numbers look very good as well.

  30. jon abbey

    linking to Stephen A Smith only prolongs his career. whether he’s right or wrong, he’s never worth reading.

  31. johnlocke

    He’s a loudmouth and annoying sure, but I think he can be pretty funny and has good sources.

    jon abbey:
    linking to Stephen A Smith only prolongs his career. whether he’s right or wrong, he’s never worth reading.

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