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		<description><![CDATA[Getting Toronto&#039;s 1st round pick is nice (with this latest trade), but do we really need Jalen Rose? I happen to have a soft spot for him, but where will he fit in with Steph, Nate, Jamal, Penny, Trevor, Quentin, and Qyntel all playing the same positions as he potentially would play?]]></description>
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		<description><![CDATA[The emphasis of &quot;leagues highest payroll&quot; is not supposed to be an indictment on only Thomas. James &quot;The Wiz&quot; Dolan should be more frugal, but because the Knicks are such a large market, nobody has had to pull in the reins on spending. The result is a financially successful franchise that sucks.

It is true that Thomas was stuck with &quot;Leagues Highest Payroll&quot; for three years (not five years). And now here we are, three years later at the end of this season and the Knicks are still tied up for the foreseeable future (in 05-06 they are roughly $60 million over the salary cap). Do you see a pattern here? Also, its important not to forget that they suck. And that the Knicks are stuck with marginal players for the next couple of years because of Thomas.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The emphasis of &#8220;leagues highest payroll&#8221; is not supposed to be an indictment on only Thomas. James &#8220;The Wiz&#8221; Dolan should be more frugal, but because the Knicks are such a large market, nobody has had to pull in the reins on spending. The result is a financially successful franchise that sucks.</p>
<p>It is true that Thomas was stuck with &#8220;Leagues Highest Payroll&#8221; for three years (not five years). And now here we are, three years later at the end of this season and the Knicks are still tied up for the foreseeable future (in 05-06 they are roughly $60 million over the salary cap). Do you see a pattern here? Also, its important not to forget that they suck. And that the Knicks are stuck with marginal players for the next couple of years because of Thomas.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2006 14:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ted asked
&quot;are Frye, Curry, Robinson, Lee, Ariza, Butler, Crawford, Woods, and Quentin Richardson all going to remain at the same level for the reamainder of their careers?&quot;

The implication is no and they will improve. Lets see.

Q and Crawford are 25 and in their sixth season.  When will this development happen.  

Curry - 5th year and 23.  I don&#039;t think he will get the work ethic religion after signing a big contract.  Most HS guys who developed showed signs of being a star before this.  Lest impressive through four year, Jermaine O&#039;Neal who almost never player (2400 minutes, ~35% of what Curry played).  But O&#039;Neal&#039;s per 40 look like his current per 40&#039;s except shots taken and points scored. 

As to the rest of the guys, yes some development, but Frye is the only guy who could be something.  

Best hope is that Woods and Butler and something like Starks and Mason. 

I think the answer to Ted&#039;s question - is probably yes.  

As to the NY Sun comment on cap space.  Isiah took over a team hopelessly capped out and now will have cap space in 2007.  The one issue I have is that Isiah has made the cap situation worse.  Yes the Knicks have $70 MM of contracts coming off, but I thought they were $60 MM over the cap.  So to get cap space will require cheap replacements and fiscal discipline.  Is Isiah up to that task, and even then, how much will he have to spend.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ted asked<br />
&#8220;are Frye, Curry, Robinson, Lee, Ariza, Butler, Crawford, Woods, and Quentin Richardson all going to remain at the same level for the reamainder of their careers?&#8221;</p>
<p>The implication is no and they will improve. Lets see.</p>
<p>Q and Crawford are 25 and in their sixth season.  When will this development happen.  </p>
<p>Curry &#8211; 5th year and 23.  I don&#8217;t think he will get the work ethic religion after signing a big contract.  Most HS guys who developed showed signs of being a star before this.  Lest impressive through four year, Jermaine O&#8217;Neal who almost never player (2400 minutes, ~35% of what Curry played).  But O&#8217;Neal&#8217;s per 40 look like his current per 40&#8242;s except shots taken and points scored. </p>
<p>As to the rest of the guys, yes some development, but Frye is the only guy who could be something.  </p>
<p>Best hope is that Woods and Butler and something like Starks and Mason. </p>
<p>I think the answer to Ted&#8217;s question &#8211; is probably yes.  </p>
<p>As to the NY Sun comment on cap space.  Isiah took over a team hopelessly capped out and now will have cap space in 2007.  The one issue I have is that Isiah has made the cap situation worse.  Yes the Knicks have $70 MM of contracts coming off, but I thought they were $60 MM over the cap.  So to get cap space will require cheap replacements and fiscal discipline.  Is Isiah up to that task, and even then, how much will he have to spend.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[So to answer your question Kevin... the Knicks cannot hire anyone better this summer AND it doesn&#039;t matter because they won&#039;t have a great pick or any flexibility until &#039;08.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So to answer your question Kevin&#8230; the Knicks cannot hire anyone better this summer AND it doesn&#8217;t matter because they won&#8217;t have a great pick or any flexibility until &#8217;08.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[i don&#039;t think anyone who is any kind of significant upgrade over thomas *would* take the job this summer. they&#039;d be stuck trying to turn over the roster (again) in an impossible cap situation, with a would-be GM as coach, and a fan base that has demonstrated its overall lack of patience on endless occassions. the knicks are in a &quot;you can&#039;t get there from here&quot; position that is unique in the nba (thank you scott layden). 

given the state the knicks were in when thomas arrived there were really only two ways to procede: 
1. try to compete by catching lightening in a bottle via trades and FA signings, OR 
2. take your lumps for the next 3-5 years, staying away from most trades and FAs, building almost exclusively through the lottery. 

for the record, i supported (and still support) the latter. but in the real world, what GM would sign on for for that in a non-expansion franchise? you&#039;re almost guaranteed to be fired before seeing any results. no GM would stay out of the FA and trade markets unless his hands were tied by his team&#039;s brass. (hint, hint)

**THEREFORE** it wouldn&#039;t matter if the knicks could hire an upgrade over thomas. he&#039;d still be looking at the same choices (although with &#039;08 on the horizon it&#039;d be much easier to work more heavily through the draft now than it was when thomas took the job). as i said to KB in a conversation we had offline, the garden brass could easily step in and force thomas (or any GM) to work the draft by tightening the financial reigns. they simply haven&#039;t been willing to do that. so when people continue to spit out the line &quot;league&#039;s highest payroll,&quot; i find myself scratching my head. &quot;when haven&#039;t the knicks had the highest payroll?&quot; whatever thomas did when he took the job it was a virtual certainty that he was going to be doing it with the league&#039;s highest payroll for the next 3 to 5 years no matter which strategy he pursued. the same will be true for any new GM, at minimum for the next couple seasons.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i don&#8217;t think anyone who is any kind of significant upgrade over thomas *would* take the job this summer. they&#8217;d be stuck trying to turn over the roster (again) in an impossible cap situation, with a would-be GM as coach, and a fan base that has demonstrated its overall lack of patience on endless occassions. the knicks are in a &#8220;you can&#8217;t get there from here&#8221; position that is unique in the nba (thank you scott layden). </p>
<p>given the state the knicks were in when thomas arrived there were really only two ways to procede:<br />
1. try to compete by catching lightening in a bottle via trades and FA signings, OR<br />
2. take your lumps for the next 3-5 years, staying away from most trades and FAs, building almost exclusively through the lottery. </p>
<p>for the record, i supported (and still support) the latter. but in the real world, what GM would sign on for for that in a non-expansion franchise? you&#8217;re almost guaranteed to be fired before seeing any results. no GM would stay out of the FA and trade markets unless his hands were tied by his team&#8217;s brass. (hint, hint)</p>
<p>**THEREFORE** it wouldn&#8217;t matter if the knicks could hire an upgrade over thomas. he&#8217;d still be looking at the same choices (although with &#8217;08 on the horizon it&#8217;d be much easier to work more heavily through the draft now than it was when thomas took the job). as i said to KB in a conversation we had offline, the garden brass could easily step in and force thomas (or any GM) to work the draft by tightening the financial reigns. they simply haven&#8217;t been willing to do that. so when people continue to spit out the line &#8220;league&#8217;s highest payroll,&#8221; i find myself scratching my head. &#8220;when haven&#8217;t the knicks had the highest payroll?&#8221; whatever thomas did when he took the job it was a virtual certainty that he was going to be doing it with the league&#8217;s highest payroll for the next 3 to 5 years no matter which strategy he pursued. the same will be true for any new GM, at minimum for the next couple seasons.</p>
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