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		<title>By: xduckshoex</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/one-more-nail-in-the-anti-per-minute-arguments-coffin/#comment-133620</link>
		<dc:creator>xduckshoex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 22:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[he can&#039;t be racist!  he has white friends!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>he can&#8217;t be racist!  he has white friends!</p>
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		<title>By: Mel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 21:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also if Thomas is such a racist why do so many white people seem to like him ?

Dolan obviously does,  as I mentioned before Bill Lambeer was his best friend on the team when he was a piston , the owner of the Pistons when he played for them was extremely friendly with him , to the point where people referred to thomas as his &quot;son&quot;  ,at one point it was general knowledge that Davidson wanted Isiah to take over player personel when his playing days were over , a falling out with Isiah late in Thomas&#039; career prevented that though and eventually he settled on Dumars.

i mean really do you make it a habit to consort and be friends with racists ?  it doesn&#039;t seem normal to me that that this idea is so prevelant in the face of so much obvious proof against it.

He goes out his way to hire them , his prefernce of choice people whom he&#039;s played with and know and that is probably why he hired kelly tribuka as a scout...he&#039;s also hired numerous coaches and others at his stops in ny and toronto that he knew in his days as a piston, I dont think he was only sorting out the black ones...and yet the fandom creates this racism myth.

its been much publicized that he wanted lambeer for the head coaching job before he made his overtures to brown.

I dont think some people truly understand the difference between being a jerk and being a racist.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also if Thomas is such a racist why do so many white people seem to like him ?</p>
<p>Dolan obviously does,  as I mentioned before Bill Lambeer was his best friend on the team when he was a piston , the owner of the Pistons when he played for them was extremely friendly with him , to the point where people referred to thomas as his &#8220;son&#8221;  ,at one point it was general knowledge that Davidson wanted Isiah to take over player personel when his playing days were over , a falling out with Isiah late in Thomas&#8217; career prevented that though and eventually he settled on Dumars.</p>
<p>i mean really do you make it a habit to consort and be friends with racists ?  it doesn&#8217;t seem normal to me that that this idea is so prevelant in the face of so much obvious proof against it.</p>
<p>He goes out his way to hire them , his prefernce of choice people whom he&#8217;s played with and know and that is probably why he hired kelly tribuka as a scout&#8230;he&#8217;s also hired numerous coaches and others at his stops in ny and toronto that he knew in his days as a piston, I dont think he was only sorting out the black ones&#8230;and yet the fandom creates this racism myth.</p>
<p>its been much publicized that he wanted lambeer for the head coaching job before he made his overtures to brown.</p>
<p>I dont think some people truly understand the difference between being a jerk and being a racist.</p>
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		<title>By: jon abbey</title>
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		<dc:creator>jon abbey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 20:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[in fact, if the roster wasn&#039;t so currently jammed, I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if he added 1-2 white scrubs to avoid further racism charges, after the testimony in this trial has gone public. but since the roster is already too full, that&#039;s not going to happen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in fact, if the roster wasn&#8217;t so currently jammed, I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if he added 1-2 white scrubs to avoid further racism charges, after the testimony in this trial has gone public. but since the roster is already too full, that&#8217;s not going to happen.</p>
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		<title>By: jon abbey</title>
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		<dc:creator>jon abbey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 20:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[maybe you&#039;re Isiah&#039;s cousin or PR guy, but you have to be blind (not color-blind) not to see this. namedropping a couple of totally peripheral scrubs isn&#039;t going to change my mind, sorry.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maybe you&#8217;re Isiah&#8217;s cousin or PR guy, but you have to be blind (not color-blind) not to see this. namedropping a couple of totally peripheral scrubs isn&#8217;t going to change my mind, sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: Mel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 20:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[so drafting david lee isn&#039;t enough , now you want to narrow your view to purely Euro&#039;s as if they are the only white ball players who matter.

how about when he signed Bruno Sundov? whom he coached in indy, obviously he didn&#039;t hate his playing ability , he also signed Skita right before last season but he didn&#039;t make the team .

on the domestic front he has signed Paul miller in each of the last 2 seasons for the summer league team and last season gave him a make-good contract in training camp.

but wait because Zeke hires whites in his staff whenever he gives a non-black american a 2nd look it has to be someone else&#039;s doing.

like I said this has no merit at all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so drafting david lee isn&#8217;t enough , now you want to narrow your view to purely Euro&#8217;s as if they are the only white ball players who matter.</p>
<p>how about when he signed Bruno Sundov? whom he coached in indy, obviously he didn&#8217;t hate his playing ability , he also signed Skita right before last season but he didn&#8217;t make the team .</p>
<p>on the domestic front he has signed Paul miller in each of the last 2 seasons for the summer league team and last season gave him a make-good contract in training camp.</p>
<p>but wait because Zeke hires whites in his staff whenever he gives a non-black american a 2nd look it has to be someone else&#8217;s doing.</p>
<p>like I said this has no merit at all.</p>
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		<title>By: jon abbey</title>
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		<dc:creator>jon abbey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 20:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just remember reading the specifics a year or so later (here, I believe) and thinking &quot;that makes a lot more sense, no way Isiah drafts a white guy on his own&quot;. hopefully someone will repost the specifics, then maybe you&#039;ll see what I mean.

and I&#039;m not talking about coaches, I&#039;m not saying Isiah hates all white people, I&#039;m saying he&#039;s exceedingly biased to the point of racism against their playing abilities. has there ever been even a single hint of him drafting or signing a European in his entire tenure here? I don&#039;t remember a single one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just remember reading the specifics a year or so later (here, I believe) and thinking &#8220;that makes a lot more sense, no way Isiah drafts a white guy on his own&#8221;. hopefully someone will repost the specifics, then maybe you&#8217;ll see what I mean.</p>
<p>and I&#8217;m not talking about coaches, I&#8217;m not saying Isiah hates all white people, I&#8217;m saying he&#8217;s exceedingly biased to the point of racism against their playing abilities. has there ever been even a single hint of him drafting or signing a European in his entire tenure here? I don&#8217;t remember a single one.</p>
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		<title>By: Mel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 18:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[with Larry Brown he was trying to appease a coach the knicks just put 50 million into less than 6 months earlier , trying to make a difficult situation work .

Who was he trying to appease with the selection of David Lee?

Herb Williams? Even if Herb was more than the coach in name only it would be extremely hard to believe he would do such a thing.

Jon Abbey you said he drafted Lee at the insistence of staff, Is it really plausible that any1 or grouping on the staff had that much pull when the staff was changed just a few months later and the entire time Thomas was looking to upgrade his coaching anyway ?

it just doesn&#039;t seem logical that Thomas would feel coerced into drafting someone for people he was looking to replace for the most part....which of course later happened to be Larry Brown....whom last time I checked was not the same race as Herb the coach he replaced.

So basically I dont see the racism as you do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>with Larry Brown he was trying to appease a coach the knicks just put 50 million into less than 6 months earlier , trying to make a difficult situation work .</p>
<p>Who was he trying to appease with the selection of David Lee?</p>
<p>Herb Williams? Even if Herb was more than the coach in name only it would be extremely hard to believe he would do such a thing.</p>
<p>Jon Abbey you said he drafted Lee at the insistence of staff, Is it really plausible that any1 or grouping on the staff had that much pull when the staff was changed just a few months later and the entire time Thomas was looking to upgrade his coaching anyway ?</p>
<p>it just doesn&#8217;t seem logical that Thomas would feel coerced into drafting someone for people he was looking to replace for the most part&#8230;.which of course later happened to be Larry Brown&#8230;.whom last time I checked was not the same race as Herb the coach he replaced.</p>
<p>So basically I dont see the racism as you do.</p>
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		<title>By: jon abbey</title>
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		<dc:creator>jon abbey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 18:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;i find it very hard to believe he was strong armed into selecting Lee.&quot;

why? he was certainly strong-armed into trading for Francis, by Brown.

and I hate Larry Bird with the strength of a million suns, but not only did Magic never &quot;eclipse&quot; him, but he was hardly just another good player.

anyway, where there&#039;s smoke, there&#039;s generally fire, and there sure is a lot of smoke around Isiah&#039;s opinions of white people as a race over the years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;i find it very hard to believe he was strong armed into selecting Lee.&#8221;</p>
<p>why? he was certainly strong-armed into trading for Francis, by Brown.</p>
<p>and I hate Larry Bird with the strength of a million suns, but not only did Magic never &#8220;eclipse&#8221; him, but he was hardly just another good player.</p>
<p>anyway, where there&#8217;s smoke, there&#8217;s generally fire, and there sure is a lot of smoke around Isiah&#8217;s opinions of white people as a race over the years.</p>
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		<title>By: Mel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve heard quite abit about IT&#039;s management style lately , i find it very hard to believe he was strong armed into selecting Lee. in fact I thought it was Thomas who kept such close ties with Donovan so he intimately knew what Lee was capable of .

Thomas&#039; comments about Bird wasn&#039;t racist at all, he was backing a teammates and if anything he was saying the press was overhyping Bird because he was the same race as 95% of them, i remember the press at the time and they were talking about Bird as if he was destined to be the best ever , and it was short lived, within a matter of a few years Magic had ecliped him and if memeory serves me the previous year Bird had made a comment that pretty much said he thought Jordan was better than him (&quot;God in Hightops&quot;) He was among the best in the league in a very good time in the nba who was being hyped as more than that.

also remember I dont think Thomas believed  Bird was better than him, so that extra hype probably bristled him a bit, professional jealosy at most, similar to what he felt at the hype Jordan got in his hometown, racism is a pretty big leap seeing as his best friend on those piston teams was Lambeer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve heard quite abit about IT&#8217;s management style lately , i find it very hard to believe he was strong armed into selecting Lee. in fact I thought it was Thomas who kept such close ties with Donovan so he intimately knew what Lee was capable of .</p>
<p>Thomas&#8217; comments about Bird wasn&#8217;t racist at all, he was backing a teammates and if anything he was saying the press was overhyping Bird because he was the same race as 95% of them, i remember the press at the time and they were talking about Bird as if he was destined to be the best ever , and it was short lived, within a matter of a few years Magic had ecliped him and if memeory serves me the previous year Bird had made a comment that pretty much said he thought Jordan was better than him (&#8220;God in Hightops&#8221;) He was among the best in the league in a very good time in the nba who was being hyped as more than that.</p>
<p>also remember I dont think Thomas believed  Bird was better than him, so that extra hype probably bristled him a bit, professional jealosy at most, similar to what he felt at the hype Jordan got in his hometown, racism is a pretty big leap seeing as his best friend on those piston teams was Lambeer.</p>
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		<title>By: mase</title>
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		<dc:creator>mase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 15:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[too bad isiah doesn&#039;t like &quot;white/international&quot; players since that style of play is winning basketball, see Toronto Raptors, Spurs, Suns, etc.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>too bad isiah doesn&#8217;t like &#8220;white/international&#8221; players since that style of play is winning basketball, see Toronto Raptors, Spurs, Suns, etc.</p>
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