Comments on: NYT: Under Woodson, Genuine Signs of Improvement

By: JLam

JLam — Fri, 30 Mar 2012 21:30:30 +0000

My answer is TD I posted the reasons on the current board

By: JLam

JLam — Fri, 30 Mar 2012 20:49:23 +0000

It is a trick question
Ill give my answer once I get some more responses

By: Brian Cronin

Brian Cronin — Fri, 30 Mar 2012 20:09:53 +0000

Knick Trivia
On the current team roster who is the oldest knick?
1) Jared Jefferies
2) Toney Douglas
3) Mike Bibby

I thought this was a trick question or something, like Jared Jeffries was secretly really old. I am pleased that that is not the case.

By: JLam

JLam — Fri, 30 Mar 2012 19:53:22 +0000

Knick Trivia
On the current team roster who is the oldest knick?
1) Jared Jefferies
2) Toney Douglas
3) Mike Bibby

By: jon abbey

jon abbey — Fri, 30 Mar 2012 14:29:16 +0000

how about pulling a ‘D’Antoni’? it’s the coach’s job to maximize the potential of his roster, not try to cram people into a “system” that isn’t very good unless it has ideal personnel, which clearly wasn’t the case here.

By: Spree8

Spree8 — Fri, 30 Mar 2012 13:33:13 +0000

BigBlueAL: ...Unfortunately D’Antoni was a bit too stubborn I guess, wished he wouldve been more flexible and more open to tweaking his offense to suit Melo a bit more and make him more happy....

Ya... let's stink forever and have everyone pull a "melo" when they don't get what they want from the coach.

By: daJudge

daJudge — Fri, 30 Mar 2012 11:39:10 +0000

Thank you for the post cdiggy at #42 and I appreciate all the intelligent feedback on the issue I raised. Wow, some of you guys stay up really late. I respectfully disagree quite a bit with hoolahoop at #46, but I’m glad that you apparently had that color blind experience. I truly think we are quite far away from that type of experience in general. While stats do a good job in quantifying trends and predicting outcomes, explaining human relationships is quite another story. Player/coach, employer/employee, teacher/student, parent/child are IMHO very complex relationships where numerous factors interact for the individuals at issue. I was just raising one issue that I believe is in play and significant, both in its impact on the team and how we see it play out in our society every day. It was very interesting to see the varied reactions on this board.

By: Z-man

Z-man — Fri, 30 Mar 2012 10:59:01 +0000

There have probably been more, and more successful black coaches in the NBA than all other sports combined, even going back to Russell, KC Jones, Lenny Wilkins, and up to Doc Rivers today, but considering the demographics of the NBA, there’s still lots of work to do.

I agree with Jon that D’Antoni might have checked out deep down as soon as the Melo trade took place. Billups gave him some hope, but once he started off the year with no PG option, he flailed around until Linsanity, gave too much freedom to Lin and when that was unsustainable, he ran out of cred with the star players.

By: ruruland

ruruland — Fri, 30 Mar 2012 08:14:57 +0000

BigBlueAL: BTW Im not trying to be a D’Antoni apologist.I liked him alot and hated the way he left but Im beyond thrilled with the way the team is playing under Woodson and hope they continue.Hell if they somehow make a decent playoff run Im all for keeping Woodson. But to try to make it seem like Woodson’s offense is better and more successful than D’Antoni’s offense is laughable, even taking into account the current roster.Unfortunately D’Antoni was a bit too stubborn I guess, wished he wouldve been more flexible and more open to tweaking his offense to suit Melo a bit more and make him more happy.But he did just that last season after the trade and it worked.Unfortunately defensively the trade made them as horrible on defense as they were great on offense. Funny thing is on this site everybody bitched and moaned about the offense after the trade because it was too much Melo Iso yet it was successful as hell.Cant have it both ways I guess lol

I hear you.

By: BigBlueAL

BigBlueAL — Fri, 30 Mar 2012 08:01:03 +0000

BTW Im not trying to be a D’Antoni apologist. I liked him alot and hated the way he left but Im beyond thrilled with the way the team is playing under Woodson and hope they continue. Hell if they somehow make a decent playoff run Im all for keeping Woodson.

But to try to make it seem like Woodson’s offense is better and more successful than D’Antoni’s offense is laughable, even taking into account the current roster. Unfortunately D’Antoni was a bit too stubborn I guess, wished he wouldve been more flexible and more open to tweaking his offense to suit Melo a bit more and make him more happy. But he did just that last season after the trade and it worked. Unfortunately defensively the trade made them as horrible on defense as they were great on offense.

Funny thing is on this site everybody bitched and moaned about the offense after the trade because it was too much Melo Iso yet it was successful as hell. Cant have it both ways I guess lol