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Saturday, September 20, 2014

NYT: For the Knicks, the Point Guard Problem Gets Worse

What ails the Knicks? Cheesy bread? No! The same thing that ailed them early in the season, lack of a point guard with a pulse.

As the Knicks faced off against the Heat, they lost Shumpert in Game 1. Without two of their top point guards, New York’s offense has collapsed. Neither Davis nor Bibby has the ability to beat his opponent off the dribble consistently, which has given the Heat’s defense a huge advantage. Because of this, Miami has fronted Carmelo Anthony in the midpost, and run shooters off the 3-point line. Both of these tactics have completely disrupted the New York offense.

By making the Knicks struggle to get Anthony the ball, they have reduced the number of plays he can make for his teammates. Case in point: During the regular season Steve Novak attempted 10 3-pointers for every 36 minutes played. In this series against Miami, he has played nearly 67 minutes and managed to take only six shots from downtown. When teams are overplaying on defense, it is the point guard’s duty to make them pay by taking the action to the basket. Davis and Bibby have been unable to counteract Miami’s game plan.

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38 comments on “NYT: For the Knicks, the Point Guard Problem Gets Worse

  1. StatsTeacher

    Wish Lin could play. . . . . . . . .

    The playoff blood bath may be a good thing: Melo Ball/Iso-ball/Hero ball whatever the latest term — it is deader than dead now. That style of play cannot win against real opponents. The last run of the season was amazing, Melo did truly impress, but 18-21 foot jumpers is the worst offense. Lin has to have the ball in his hands to initiate things, there must be a consistent attack at the rim. But then, KB’ers have been saying all this for days. . . . . . . . .

    I know KBers think Cowherd (ESPN Radio, I actually like him, mostly) is a blowhard (they all are) but holy shit, 10 solid minutes this morning (on NATIONAL radio, I listened to it driving to work and I am in Bay Area, Golden State land) of eviscerating Melo, a good chunk of it unfair – comparing Linsanity to now straight up with no mention of quality of opponent, I cringed and I am no Melo fan. . . . . .

  2. Gamecockerbocker

    StatsTeacher:
    Wish Lin could play. . . . . . . . .

    The playoff blood bath may be a good thing:Melo Ball/Iso-ball/Hero ball whatever the latest term — it is deader than dead now.That style of play cannot win against real opponents.The last run of the season was amazing, Melo did truly impress, but 18-21 foot jumpers is the worst offense.Lin has to have the ball in his hands to initiate things, there must be a consistent attack at the rim.But then, KB’ers have been saying all this for days. . . . . . . . .

    I know KBers think Cowherd (ESPN Radio, I actually like him, mostly) is a blowhard (they all are) but holy shit, 10 solid minutes this morning (on NATIONAL radio, I listened to it driving to work and I am in Bay Area, Golden State land) of eviscerating Melo, a good chunk of it unfair – comparing Linsanity to now straight up with no mention of quality of opponent, I cringed and I am no Melo fan. . . . . .

    The best part is Cowherd was going crazy before the trade about wanting the Knicks to get Melo, and then loved the deal when they did get him. Surprising he doesn’t mention that?

  3. StatsTeacher

    Gamecockerbocker: The best part is Cowherd was going crazy before the trade about wanting the Knicks to get Melo, and then loved the deal when they did get him. Surprising he doesn’t mention that?

    No Doubt, Cowherd has selective memory. His man crush on Lebron aside, he was mostly right in this mornings “rant” – his actual term for the first 10 minutes of his show. He was really high on the Knicks during Linsanity, and sounded like he was pulling for this roster-built-on-a-meth-high to succeed. . . . . .

  4. bc2k

    Have a question if anyone can answer. Lin is a RFA this off-season, if some team makes an offer say 4 years for 20 million, and Kicks match. Can Lin refuse to sign with Knicks and goto the other team? Or he has to sign with the Knicks because of his RFA status?

  5. Z

    bc2k:
    Have a question if anyone can answer. Lin is a RFA this off-season, if some team makes an offer say 4 years for 20 million, and Kicks match. Can Lin refuse to sign with Knicks and goto the other team? Or he has to sign with the Knicks because of his RFA status?

    He has to play for the Knicks if they match an offer.

  6. Owen

    We shall see, pretty shrewd front office…

    McGee is pretty brain dead…

    Running the fast break off a rebound?

  7. ruruland

    Owen:
    We shall see, pretty shrewd front office…

    McGee is pretty brain dead…

    Running the fast break off a rebound?

    Would never judge a guy from his blooper reel. Hasn’t made anywhere near as many dumb plays away from that environment.

    He’s one of the longest players in NBA history — combine it with his fluid movements and athleticism and he can be a great player.

    He’s still extremely young and finally in a decent environment.

    To do what he’s done tonight on offense against Bynum is pretty impressive. He’s had a very good year and has been the best player in the team’s most important game this year. 6 blocks last game in limited minutes.

  8. Owen

    Wow that’s freaky. Mcgee just said exactly that about the highlight reel….

    ruruland: Would never judge a guy from his blooper reel. Hasn’t made anywhere near as many dumb plays away from that environment.

    He’s one of the longest players in NBA history — combine it with his fluid movements and athleticism and he can be a great player.

    He’s still extremely young and finally in a decent environment.

    To do what he’s done tonight on offense against Bynum is pretty impressive. He’s had a very good year and has been the best player in the team’s most important game this year. 6 blocks last game in limited minutes.

  9. jon abbey

    Gallo is very good at making it look like he was fouled, I think they teach that from a young age in Europe. :)

    most impressive game I’ve seen by far from Faried, if he and McGee can keep that up, maybe Denver can compete in this series. it is worth keeping in mind, though, that losing a game in this series isn’t the worst thing for LA (assuming they advance) as it means Artest can only miss one game max in the second round now.

  10. Gamecockerbocker

    Getting out of Washington was the best thing that could’ve happened for McGee’s career. This dude is going to average a double double in the near future.

  11. MKinLA

    Is it killing anyone else that Philly is going to beat Chicago and we’re better than Philly?

  12. Brian Cronin

    Is it killing anyone else that Philly is going to beat Chicago and we’re better than Philly?

    On the one hand, definitely yes.

    On the other hand, the way the Knicks are playing (and the personnel they currently have), are they better than the Sixers right now?

  13. BigBlueAL

    Brian Cronin: On the one hand, definitely yes.

    On the other hand, the way the Knicks are playing (and the personnel they currently have), are they better than the Sixers right now?

    Assuming Shump doesnt get hurt in a Game 1 vs the Bulls and Amar’e doesnt act like an idiot after a Game 2 vs the Bulls then definitely yes. Plus with Lin at least looking like he is progressing a series vs the Bulls presumably would last longer and therefore give Lin a better chance to return.

    But really who cares since its a moot point right now lol

  14. Brian Cronin

    Oh yeah, healthy the Knicks are better. And that’s a fair point that STAT wouldn’t be breaking his hand if they weren’t losing so badly.

  15. Brian Cronin

    I think the Knicks have to root for OKC if they lose on Sunday. I don’t want them to be the only team to get swept. Oh, the Jazz will probably get swept. Never mind.

  16. BigBlueAL

    Brian Cronin:
    How pumped were you when you saw the Mo news tonight, Al?

    Absolutely thrilled!! Didnt want that to be my last vision of him. Seeing him that emotional last night was really hard to watch. It does make it an interesting off-season decision though since he is a FA after this season. How much money would he ask/sign for coming off this injury?? Since its not 2014 its no big deal I assume because the Yankee goal is to lower the payroll to 189 mil by the 2014 season (good luck with that).

    Thing is I felt awful for Mo obviously but in reality I dont think losing him will be much of an issue at all for the team because of how amazing Robertson has become (Soriano is no slouch either despite his disappointing Yankee career so far). The bullpen in general has been fantastic this season and was the best bullpen in the AL last season.

    Of course the day either of them blows their first save cant imagine the hysteria it will bring to the fan base and especially media lol

  17. BigBlueAL

    Brian Cronin:
    I think the Knicks have to root for OKC if they lose on Sunday. I don’t want them to be the only team to get swept. Oh, the Jazz will probably get swept. Never mind.

    I know the Knick season is basically over but I really hope they win on Sunday. I will still be rooting my ass off for a win and will be thrilled if they do avoid a sweep. Of course if Melo goes off for 40+ in a win it would make it an interesting couple of days at this site before the inevitable ass-whooping in Game 5 lol

  18. nicos

    ruruland:
    If I’m Denver I’m willing to overpay for McGee.

    I hope you like this Nuggets team because this is probably going to it for the next few years- They’re at almost 50 mil for next year before they resign McGee (and given how thin this free agent class is a qualifying offer isn’t going to do it- someone will offer him a big deal). You’d think they’d like to resign Miller too. And with Lawson due to get paid soon…

  19. nicos

    Brian Cronin:
    How pumped were you when you saw the Mo news tonight, Al?

    The issue with Mo is if Robertson has a great year do you want to give his spot back to a 43 year guy coming off major knee surgery- and you can’t think Mo would want to come back to do anything besides close.

  20. Doug

    nicos: The issue with Mo is if Robertson has a great year do you want to give his spot back to a 43 year guy coming off major knee surgery- and you can’t think Mo would want to come back to do anything besides close.

    With all due respect, Mo isn’t just “some 43 year old guy coming off major knee surgery.” He’s a Yankee legend and the greatest relief pitcher of all time. Of course you bring him back and have Robertson step aside.

    Also, if Robertson isn’t the closer he probably pitches more high leverage innings anyway. The cult of the 9th inning is just stupid.

  21. BigBlueAL

    Doug: With all due respect, Mo isn’t just “some 43 year old guy coming off major knee surgery.” He’s a Yankee legend and the greatest relief pitcher of all time. Of course you bring him back and have Robertson step aside.

    Also, if Robertson isn’t the closer he probably pitches more high leverage innings anyway. The cult of the 9th inning is just stupid.

    Yeah, I really hope Soriano becomes the closer and Robertson stays in his current role of 7th/8th inning guy. Saw a stat that Robertson has over 40 1+ inning appearances compared to Soriano’s 4 in the past couple of years. Makes sense to keep them the same way plus I have a feeling mentally making Soriano the closer will actually help him since thats the role he clearly wants.

    Either way the Yankees should really by fine this season in terms of holding a lead late in games, the problem so far is actually having a lead late in games lol

    Also yeah Robertson/Soriano could go perfect in save situations the rest of the season and if Mo comes back in 2013 he still should and will be the closer.

  22. ruruland

    nicos: I hope you like this Nuggets team because this is probably going to it for the next few years- They’re at almost 50 mil for next year before they resign McGee (and given how thin this free agent class is a qualifying offer isn’t going to do it- someone will offer him a big deal).You’d think they’d like to resign Miller too.And with Lawson due to get paid soon…

    Oh, I know all this.

  23. nicos

    Doug: With all due respect, Mo isn’t just “some 43 year old guy coming off major knee surgery.” He’s a Yankee legend and the greatest relief pitcher of all time. Of course you bring him back and have Robertson step aside.

    Also, if Robertson isn’t the closer he probably pitches more high leverage innings anyway. The cult of the 9th inning is just stupid.

    Mo is probably my favorite NY sports figure but saying “yes I’m going to come back” and coming back without losing a beat from major surgery at 43 are two different things- if he’s 100%, he should close but if he’s 80%? Even 90%?

    Also, anyone think Amar’e might have been blowing smoke by saying he’s doubtful for Sunday? If Woodson says he thinks he might play but isn’t sure if he’ll start, you’d have to think he’s going to at least try to give it a go. Doubt it will help- and if he thinks he’s going to get a Willis Reed-type roar from the crowd he might be sadly mistaken as I’m sure there will be some boos mixed in.

  24. jon abbey

    Brian Cronin:
    I think the Knicks have to root for OKC if they lose on Sunday. I don’t want them to be the only team to get swept. Oh, the Jazz will probably get swept. Never mind.

    game 4 of OKC/DAL is first, I think that’s tomorrow.

  25. Brian Cronin

    game 4 of OKC/DAL is first, I think that’s tomorrow.

    Oops, thanks. I guess I’ll root for OKC to finish it out in 4 (since they’re obviously going to win eventually, it doesn’t really matter).

  26. Brian Cronin

    Thing is I felt awful for Mo obviously but in reality I dont think losing him will be much of an issue at all for the team because of how amazing Robertson has become (Soriano is no slouch either despite his disappointing Yankee career so far). The bullpen in general has been fantastic this season and was the best bullpen in the AL last season.

    Oh yeah, it is more about what he means to the franchise as a whole as opposed to what he means to the team this year. They probably got, like, a win worse with his injury. And that’s not even counting what Aardsdma might give them when he gets healthy. Although, apparently Jose Campos (the other guy the Yankees got in the Pineda deal) is also having an MRI done. The Yankees might be snakebit this year.

  27. Brian Cronin

    The issue with Mo is if Robertson has a great year do you want to give his spot back to a 43 year guy coming off major knee surgery- and you can’t think Mo would want to come back to do anything besides close.

    I wouldn’t mind 80% of Mo as the closer with Robertson pitching the higher leverage innings. Yeah, it’d irk Robertosn, but he’s still under contract for awhile.

  28. Brian Cronin

    I know the Knick season is basically over but I really hope they win on Sunday. I will still be rooting my ass off for a win and will be thrilled if they do avoid a sweep. Of course if Melo goes off for 40+ in a win it would make it an interesting couple of days at this site before the inevitable ass-whooping in Game 5 lol

    You know, some team is bound to be the first one to come back from down 0-3. It’d be hilarious if this Knicks team was that team. Think about it. Melo goes off and they steal Game 4. :Lin comes back and they steal Game 5. Then they go back to the Garden and the crowd pushes them to a Game 6 win. Then Novak and JR each make 8 threes in Game 7 in a stunner.

    Shump recovering in time for Game 4 is probably only slightly less likely than the above scenario, but there’s a chance!!

  29. BigBlueAL

    Brian Cronin: You know, some team is bound to be the first one to come back from down 0-3. It’d be hilarious if this Knicks team was that team. Think about it. Melo goes off and they steal Game 4. :Lin comes back and they steal Game 5. Then they go back to the Garden and the crowd pushes them to a Game 6 win. Then Novak and JR each make 8 threes in Game 7 in a stunner.

    Shump recovering in time for Game 4 is probably only slightly less likely than the above scenario, but there’s a chance!!

    Looks like Brian has gotten an early start celebrating Cinco de Mayo!! lol

  30. daJudge

    Read your article Mike and couldn’t agree more. To extrapolate a bit, under these circumstances, it would be very difficult for Woodson to adjust w/o a solid one guard. Makes me actually feel a little better since Lin will be back at full strength and I am hoping same for Shump.

  31. Mike Kurylo Post author

    Wait, is it ok to openly root for the Knuggets? Has enough time passed since the ‘Melo trade? Or is there some kind of truce, like we can’t mention Faried?

  32. Doug

    BigBlueAL: Yeah, I really hope Soriano becomes the closer and Robertson stays in his current role of 7th/8th inning guy.Saw a stat that Robertson has over 40 1+ inning appearances compared to Soriano’s 4 in the past couple of years.Makes sense to keep them the same way plus I have a feeling mentally making Soriano the closer will actually help him since thats the role he clearly wants.

    I’m just parroting what Mike and the RAB guys think about this, but whoever replaces Mo is going to face the intense scrutiny of, well, replacing Mo.

    Better to throw Soriano to the wolves in that sense to bear the brunt of the criticism. Then after Soriano’s contract runs out/he withers under pressure, Robertson can step in when the pressure isn’t as high.

  33. David Crockett

    Mike Kurylo:
    Wait, is it ok to openly root for the Knuggets? Has enough time passed since the ‘Melo trade? Or is there some kind of truce, like we can’t mention Faried?

    They ARE playing the Lakers. So there’s that.

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