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Tuesday, July 22, 2014

New York Knicks Coaching Roundup, Part 2

We’re closing in on a month since Steve Kerr to the Knicks watch first began, but the Knicks and Kerr have been unable to reach an agreement as of this moment.

As many expected, Kerr didn’t immediately take the Knicks job once it became available. Kerr is the hottest head coach candidate on the market, so he’s taking his time. The Golden State Warriors job is reportedly his if he wants it, and the Utah Jazz have also been rumored to be interested in him. The Warriors job is the best head coaching job available, but it doesn’t appear as though Kerr is heading to the Bay Area.

Rather than choosing a coaching job close to home, like Golden State or Utah, it appears working with Phil in New York is too compelling of an opportunity to pass up.

Marc Berman of the New York Post reported on May 9 that the Knicks are OK with Kerr completing his contractual obligations with TNT, but a deal could be finalized by May 12.

Speaking of contracts, Berman reports that money is the only obstacle remaining before Kerr signs on to become the next Knicks’ head coach.

“Kerr’s agent is Mike Tannenbaum, the former Jets general manager. It is believed Tannenbaum is seeking a five-year deal for Kerr, the same length as Jackson’s.

It is also believed Kerr is seeking a similar financial deal as Mike D’Antoni had when he inked a four-year, $24 million pact with the Knicks in 2008. Jackson and owner James Dolan might have to overpay to get Kerr to move across the country.”

So it looks like the original plan of bringing in Kerr to do Phil’s bidding is what’s ultimately going to happen.

Get excited, maybe?

27 comments on “New York Knicks Coaching Roundup, Part 2

  1. thenamestsam

    At the risk of possibly reading too much into the current lack of action I think maybe we’re seeing a little bit of Phil’s inexperience as an executive showing here. He’s made no secret of the fact that Kerr is Option 1 and that option 2 is effectively nonexistent right now. He willingly gave up any leverage he might have had, and now it’s basically all in Kerr’s hands – that’s an awfully cushy contract for a first time coach and it seems like the Knicks are effectively letting him shop the offer around the league by letting him sit on it for the duration of the playoffs and wait to see if any preferred jobs open up (OKC and Indy are both potentially intriguing jobs that could still be available depending on where things go from here).

    It does look like we’re going to eventually get our man and the only “loss” will be a few of Dolan’s dollars, so no harm, no foul, but one of the concerns with Phil was that while he obviously has the basketball side of the job covered (and then some) he might be a little short on the business side. This isn’t making me feel any better about that. He’s going to have to be a bit savvier about things when it comes to trades, free agency, etc.

  2. johnlocke

    could be… another way of reading the situation is that Phil trusts Kerr and Kerr trusts Phil, so he put all his cards on the table. secondly, it’s not his money. overpaying for coaches is the least of our concern.

  3. KnickfaninNJ

    I would add that there seems to be a “PJ” effect that maybe Phil didn’t anticipate. Kerr seems to be a hot commodity as a coach now, but two months ago no one was talking about him as a coach. Mark Jackson got much more press as a possible coach while he was an announcer than Kerr did. But as soon as the basketball world realized Jackson was taking Kerr seriously as a possible coach, they suddenly realized that he might make a great coach and he became a hot commodity. So Jackson’s interest in him as a coach made him into a hot commodity when he wasn’t one before. This is the “PJ” effect. I hope Jackson learns from this, and can avoid it in the future. You don’t want situations like Jackson saying he wants Aldrich to have a bigger role and other teams then concluding, “Phil likes Aldrich so he must actually be good” , and thus driving up the price of Aldrich.

  4. Brian Cronin

    The weird thing to me is that Kerr seems like he wants to run the Triangle and I don’t think any team but the Knicks want to run the Triangle, so you already see things like “Kerr would be willing to do a different offense if he took the job in (Fill in the blank city).” But doesn’t that sound dumb? Hiring a brand-new coach and then have him not do the system he has specifically trained to run?

  5. Cock Jowles Has Predicted the Last Three Knicks Seasons

    The players still suck. Who cares?

  6. Kahnzy

    Does anyone actually believe the hype/nonsense that Kerr might go to Cleveland now that they’ve fired Brown (again)? I can see GSW over the NYK, but Cleveland? That’s gotta be the one franchise that could rival our own beloved Knickerbockers for futility.

  7. Totes McGoats

    Big week in NYC, huh? I’m a Marylander but from here I can see excitement coming. At least a little. Kerr, though at a bad price if the rumored 5-6 mil a year is true, on the verge of becoming our Knicks coach. Jets and Giants coming off of solid drafts..Giants moreso with the addition of Beckham. And the “Subway Series” starting this week..even though my Mets lack big names and are in a terrible tailspin. Certainly more exciting than here in MD..lol. I’m upset with the Wizards because as a Knick fan I ABSOLUTELY CANNOT root for Indy or Miami next round and the Wiz are giving the series away. And..well..who wants to root for the Skins or Ravens? Or the Nats? I think Strasburg can be great but the current culture of American baseball has almost ruined the kid. Rushing power pitchers to the bigs before their arms are “mature” and they have more than 1 reliable pitch..or making kids pitch too hard at an early age. Harvey’s staring down the barrel 2..smh.

    Anyway..looks like Kerr is the guy. I don’t understand why Kerr is a hot name in any other city but NYC. It’s perfect for him. A year to learn..under Phil..with expectations that aren’t so high. Then in year 2, he has a 1st rounder and cap space to help him along the way. It’s perfect for Phil 2. He can kinda coach vicariously and be hands on in the development of the players without undermining Kerr’s authority..until Kerr establishes himself. Kinda like the Riley/Spoelstra dynamic. Hopefully as successful.

  8. lavor postell

    I don’t think the Nets blew it as much as Lebron took that game. Brooklyn had some bad possessions at the end of the game, but Lebron basically went 1 on 5 tonight and took that game for Miami. Wade is done

  9. Mars

    I take nothing away from Bron but at the same time Brooklyn had their chance and let it slip away. Bron had an amazing performance though.

    Leonard is playing great basketball. I wonder how great he can be once the veterans around him retire

  10. BigBlueAL

    As old and banged up as most of LeBron’s teammates are right now they are still miles better than what he had in Cleveland. Not to mention a much better coach and front office.

  11. Will the Thrill

    I think he is kinda mad that his load is so big. He coulda stayed in Cle for this

    If he is mad after winning multiple championships, I don’t know what’s wrong with him. I could see him not wanting to carry a team that was losing (Cle) but if the Heat are winning, I don’t know how putting on great performances to help them would make him mad. It actually seems like he would enjoy the winning more.

  12. KnickfaninNJ

    LeBron is amazing. Cleveland made the playoffs every year he was there, and they were coached by Mike Brown and had nobody special besides him. I don’t think there’s any other player in the league whose presence basically guarantees you a playoff position. Last night he clearly imposed his will on the Nets, just like he did in Boston a year ago. At the end, the Heat won by a spurt of great defense, but he was part of that too.

  13. thenamestsam

    Cleveland made the playoffs every year he was there, and they were coached by Mike Brown and had nobody special besides him.

    This might even sell him a little short. They not only made the playoffs – they won 66 games one year. And they not only had nobody special – those teams had almost entirely bad players. The year they won 66 games their top 5 in minutes player was Lebron, Mo Williams, Anderson Varejao, Delonte West and Boobie Gibson. To me that’s Lebron, two good bench players/bad starters, one average bench player, and a D-leaguer. With Mike Brown as the coach. Conference was weak, but still to win 66 games with that group is unbelievable.

  14. d-mar

    I still think the Spurs have the best chance of derailing Miami’s threepeat. In last year’s finals, LeBron’s TS% was a pedestrian .529 (as compared to .649 this season)

    If anyone can figure out how to at least slow LBJ down, it’s Pop. I like the Spurs chances.

  15. Hubert

    I don’t think Lebron is leaving Miami

    Now? No.

    But after next year? When Wade is even more decayed? And Bosh might decide he wants to go be the man somewhere?

    What about LeBron indicates that he wants to put down roots in one place? I could be projecting my own dreams on him, but if you were him, wouldn’t spending 5 years in Miami and winning 2-4 titles, then spending 3-4 years in NY winning more with your best friend seem like a fun career trajectory? And then when you’re career is winding down you head back to Cleveland and make amends.

    Seems like a perfect story to me. Biased little me.

  16. Hubert

    Btw I just saw a headline on Grantland for a podcast titled:

    “Michael Rappaport pleads for Mark Jackson to coach the Knicks.”

    I laughed for a second, then I realized that he’s the type of idiot MSG spent the last 12 years making terrible moves to try to appeal to. And there’s more of them than us.

    He was probably excited that we traded a 1st for Bargnani.

  17. DRed

    He was probably excited that we traded a 1st for Bargnani.

    Okay-which one of you guys is Michael Rapaport? I’ve got some great ideas for a movie.

  18. lavor postell

    Well I think Miami will have some cap flexibility in the coming seasons so they can reload around him. He’s also at a point in his career where I don’t think he’s going to go around chasing titles and would rather have people come and join him. If he opts in this season and decides to enter free agency next summer, I’m sure that we’ll make a run at him. I just don’t personally think he’s going to leave Miami since I expect they’ll be able to make some moves to provide him help. If he doesn’t feel like they can then we will have positioned ourselves well to potentially land him, but it’s not something I’m getting my hopes up for.

  19. Kikuchiyo

    To be fair, the Rapaport interview was hilarious. I don’t for one nanosecond want Mark Jackson to come here, and I think PJ’s presence means, thank god, it won’t happen. But that BS Report was great.

  20. Hubert

    Well I think Miami will have some cap flexibility in the coming seasons so they can reload around him. He’s also at a point in his career where I don’t think he’s going to go around chasing titles and would rather have people come and join him. If he opts in this season and decides to enter free agency next summer, I’m sure that we’ll make a run at him. I just don’t personally think he’s going to leave Miami since I expect they’ll be able to make some moves to provide him help. If he doesn’t feel like they can then we will have positioned ourselves well to potentially land him, but it’s not something I’m getting my hopes up for.

    But who can Miami add in 2015 that would be more appealing to him than playing with Melo?

    Melo gets a lot of stick here, much of it deserved, because he isn’t a max player that you can build around. But he would be worth the max playing as LeBron’s #2. They would be the next Jordan & Pippen, except for the fact that Melo isn’t nearly as good as Jordan or Pippen, and actually LeBron’s game is closer to Pippen’s than Jordan’s, and Melo plays more like late-style MJ (not as well, of course) than any model of Pippen. So they’d be more like the Bizarro Pippen and Jordan.

    Whatever you think of my fantasy, just know that it’s what’s keeping me alive right now.

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