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Wednesday, April 23, 2014

NBA News and Notes for April 29th (Updated 8:03 PM)

* The biggest news of the night has to be the Atlanta Hawks taking two in a row at home from the Boston Celtics, to go back to Boston tied at two games apiece! Joe Johnson was simply amazing in the fourth quarter, hitting incredibly difficult shots and also getting to the basket with stunning ease. Josh Smith had another great game, combining with Johnson for all 32 points the Hawks scored in the fourth quarter (Johnson 20/Smith 12).

The Celtics played well, but the Hawks just played out of their minds in the fourth quarter (which the Hawks entered down ten points).

* Our old friend Larry Brown is returning to coaching, taking on the Charlotte Bobcats (as everyone knows, Brown is a huge UNC guy). The Bobcats have a number of players that Brown should love, particularly Gerald Wallace, so I think this may be a good fit, and leading the Bobcats to their first-ever playoff berth is certainly a better final legacy than his terrible Knick tenure.

* Our other old friend Pat Riley has quit as the Heat coach, but will stay on as president of the team. Erik Spoelstra will become the youngest NBA coach at 37 years of age. Since he is a Riley apprentice, I figure he’ll do a fine job.

* There were two series clinchers tonight, with the Magic eliminating the Raptors and the Lakers completing their sweep of the Nuggets. The Nuggets really need to rework that offense – it looks terrible, and they have too many talented offensive players to be that bad on offense. The Raptors are going to be interesting this offseason – what will they do with Calderon?

* Quick history question – did Michael Jordan complain when the Bad Boys used to abuse him? Brendan Haywood, in complaining about Lebron complaints about the Wizards’ hard fouls, seems to believe he did not. I’ll admit that I do not recall him ever doing so, but that was about twenty years ago, so I may be misremembering. I don’t recall him complaining about the Riley Knicks’ style of play, either, but again, I could just be forgetting.

EDITED TO ADD * I can’t believe I forgot to mention it, as it was one of the major reasons I put up this bit initially, but why doesn’t the NBA have a “flopping” foul? The NHL has a diving penalty, and that’s the exact same thing. A foul if you flop, plus a fine if you get called for five flopping fouls, plus a suspension if you get called for six – I think that would both A. be feasible and B. be effective in curtailing the amount of flopping in the NBA. What say you all?

51 comments on “NBA News and Notes for April 29th (Updated 8:03 PM)

  1. TDM

    It was a different game back then. By today’s standards, McHale would be banned for the year for a clothesline like the one he threw at Rambis back in the 80′s.

  2. dave crockett

    Phil Jackson did all the complaining for those squads. So Jordan never had to say anything publicly. Jackson would go right to NBC, soft white light shimmering behind his head, and gripe about the officiating. I remember JVG once griping about Jackson’s griping, and how Jackson never got fined.

  3. caleb

    I would blow up Denver completely. Trade Carmelo before the league catches on what a limited player he has, and before he starts costing $12 million a year…

    See what you can get for Iverson…

    If it looks like you can rebuild on the fly, keep Camby, coming off two great years… otherwise, trade him, too – wouldn’t he look awesome in Atlanta, in exchange for, say, Marvin Williams, Zaza Pachulia and Acie Law?

    Toronto will match any offer for Calderon — I’m more interested to see if they’ll get a serious offer for TJ Ford. With that contract, and injury history — wouldn’t be surprised to see the same backcourt next year.

  4. jon abbey

    I think it’s getting harder and harder to trade established guys with big salaries and obvious limitations, like Carmelo and Iverson, unless you just want to exchange them for someone else’s problems or get virtually nothing in return. also, Carmelo already signed a big deal, so not sure what you mean there.

    how about Iverson and Kenyon Martin for Marbury and Zach? that might actually make sense for both teams, and the salaries and lengths are almost identical. that would free up time for Lee and JR Smith, respectively, and give NY a perimeter scorer and Denver a post presence.

  5. caleb

    I wasn’t thinking straight… Carmelo’s extension kicks in next fall. They could have traded him this fall, without taking back a huge contract. (for example, they oculd have traded him for a top draft pick).

    Your trade with Denver isn’t crazy, but I don’t really see the point — doesn’t address the long-term issues. I’d rather keep hope alive that we can eventually trade Zach for a shorter deal (more likely to happen next year, if ever). Now, if they threw in a draft pick…

    From Denver’s perspective, you’d get nice salary relief in a year – but in the short-term, you’re making the team a lot worse. So, I wouldn’t do it, unless you’re doing other things (like trading Camby and/or Carmelo) to rebuild completely.

  6. jon abbey

    “From Denver’s perspective, you’d get nice salary relief in a year – but in the short-term, you’re making the team a lot worse. So, I wouldn’t do it, unless you’re doing other things (like trading Camby and/or Carmelo) to rebuild completely.”

    that’s a terrible analysis IMO. first of all, there’s no salary relief there, Iverson and Marbury’s remaining deals are almost identical, same with Zach and Martin.

    I also disagree that you’d definitely be weakening Denver, you’re diversifying the offense by adding a post scorer which they don’t have now, and Smith’s added minutes would make up for losing Iverson’s production. Zach blows on D, so does Iverson. where it helps, as I said, is that Lee and JR Smith would both get more minutes to hopefully further develop, the success of the move for both teams would depend on how well they stepped up.

  7. jon abbey

    actually, Iverson and Marbury’s deals are precisely identical, amusingly enough. each is owed $21,937,500 next season and is a free agent after that.

  8. caleb

    first of all, there’s no salary relief there, Iverson and Marbury’s remaining deals are almost identical, same with Zach and Martin.”

    Sorry, I’m getting lazy — thought AI expired a year later than Steph. You’re right, it’s a total wash, salary-wise.

    On the court, though… Randolph isn’t a very good low-post scorer, as we’ve been complaining all year. ALl he does is shoot (and miss) jumpers. He’d just take touches from Carmelo, who may not do much but at least is a good scorer.

    Meanwhile, Marbury does the same things as AI, but not as well.

    To your point about JR Smith – this is why you’re always touting addition by subtraction, whereas I prefer the simpler solution — just play the guy who needs more minutes.

  9. caleb

    p.s. Denver would also get hurt pretty badly on defense — Iverson isn’t great but he’s a lot better than Marbs, and Kenyon Martin – even at this point in his career — is in another universe from Zach, altogether. Here’s a fun mental picture: Zach trying to guard Kobe.

  10. jon abbey

    it wasn’t like Martin or anyone else did very well shutting down Kobe, and clearly you normally don’t have your 4 guarding the other team’s 2.

    anyway, most proposed trades don’t make sense to me for one reason or another, this one I like. but I don’t care enough to defend it anymore, just an idea.

  11. W.C.

    >The Raptors are going to be interesting this offseason – what will they do with Calderon?<

    Don’t you mean what are they going to do with Ford?

  12. Brian Cronin

    Well, what they are going to do with Calderon dictates what they are going to do with Ford, right?

  13. retropkid

    Denver sucked in the playoffs, but they won 50 games in a tough west and battled down the stretch to beat out Golden State. I don’t think Carmelo can be the most over-rated player because he has only been an all-star once. He’s very up and down, and clearly hasn’t found the intensity to win the big games in the NBA…

    Most over-rated this year? Nash. Or maybe J Kidd. Neither really helped his team as much as they have done in the past. Melo still has room to improve, these two guys are way on the down slope…

  14. caleb

    I’ll agree that Kidd and Nash are overrated (Chauncey Billups, too) — in general perception lags behind reality with older players. But I’ll still take Carmelo as most overrated.

  15. Ess-dog

    Kidd is the most overrated in my opinion. Hands down. Jump shot like a wounded pheasant. It’s tough to have a shoot first pg – Iverson, Marbury – are you listening? Unless you have a Joe Johnson 2 guard that can do everything. I would NOT trade Marbs and Zach for Martin and Iverson. What about Curry and Jeffries for Nene? I’d do it, I would! Then you’ve got Marbs, draft pick, Balkman, Zach, Nene. That’s a mean, ugly lineup.

  16. jon abbey

    well, Nene for the five games a year he’s healthy for at least.

    Nash was just dreadful tonight, I hope for his sake it turns out that he was hurt, because if he was healthy and put up that stinker with his team on the verge of elimination, wow.

  17. Owen

    Nash did have an unbelievably bad line. And Paul was amazing, another triple double. The Hornets committed only five turnovers. I would love to root for a team that played like that.

    On a totally different note, what are we to make for the TJ Ford for Jamal Crawford rumors? That sounds like the kind of trade I could possibly get behind. Although it would make even more sense if OJ Mayo is going to be our new shooting guard, which is a highly unnappetizing prospect in my book…

  18. nj hoop

    Does anyone think the Hawks have a chance to at least take this to 7 games? I personally think the C’s will wake up and take games 5 and 6, but it has been very enjoyable watching them sweat a little. Before this series, I thought they would cruise through the East, including the Pistons, but now I think LeBron and Co. may actually have a shot, as they’ve been exposed a little. You know Cavs coaching staff will watch film of this series very closely.

    On another topic,what do you think Cuban will do in the offseason? You know there’s steam coming out of his ears after 2 first round exits in a row. He’s not the type to sit tight, will be interesting to see if he blows it up. Johnson is definitely gone.

  19. o_boogie

    si.com reporting d’antoni is not going to coach the suns next season. d’antoni to the knicks???

  20. W.C.

    >Calderon is a free agent, Ford is under contract. so “what will they do with Calderon” is the proper question.<

    Calderon is the better player, management knows it and has said they will resign him etc…

    Ford may be a bit delicate, was a problem when Calderon won the starting spot (which Calderon voluntarily gave up to smooth things over – most likely further endearing him to management) etc….

    The correct question is what are they going to do with Ford?

    I already know that Calderon will be back.

  21. jon abbey

    D’Antoni will coach in Toronto if anywhere.

    TJ Ford is too much of a health risk for me to deal Crawford straight up for, but yeah, it depends somewhat on who we can draft.

  22. retropkid

    I would trade Crawford for TJ Ford. Crawford shouldn’t be a starter, let alone a go-to guy, on any team…he’s too erratic. Shooting guards who can’t shoot shouldn’t be hard to find to replace him…

    Ford isn’t nirvana, not by a long shot. But he has a chance to help the club.

    On the other hand, I wouldn’t trade Ford for Crawford…I can’t imagine there being much interest in Crawford around the league.

  23. W.C.

    I think Pheonix missed Grant Hill.

    The combination of Hill being out and Marion being gone took them out of their game. They had more or less worked out a decent chemistry with Shaq (even though there were pluses and minuses), but it just never flowed right without Hill too.

    I think that also impacted Nash. Nash is another great PG, but there is no stat that measures the number of assists that high level athletic open court players (and those that can operate above the rim) contribute to the assists and scoring of a good PG. It works both ways.

  24. W.C.

    If I were Cuban I’d start rebuilding the whole team up except Dirk.

    A lot of the core is getting old and the payroll is ridiculous. They also aren’t going to get better now that they traded Harris for Kidd and went for it all this year. That just made them older and on put them on a faster downward slope.

    You can make a good case for keeping Howard, but I think this whole episode of publicly admitting to pot smoking and more or less indicting the whole league, plus his collapse in the playoffs makes you wonder where is head is at and where he’s heading (forward or backward).

  25. Frank

    I’d rather have ‘lil general Avery Johnson coaching the Knicks than either Mark Jackson or D’Antoni. Jackson has no experience and D’Antoni doesn’t develop young players or stress defense. I think Avery’s getting a bad rap for what happened to the Mavs this year. They ran into the best PG in the league and the front office decided to trade their best on-ball defender for an old guy who can’t guard point guards anymore. The Mavs defense was clearly better under him than it was under Nellie, and he has done a nice job developing Josh Howard, Brandon Bass, and Harris before he left.

    I think D’Antoni’s offensive style will be tough to duplicate when you don’t have Steve Nash running the show. Can you imagine Nate Robinson trying to play like Nash? Or Marbury?

    So for me, this is my order of preference for coach:

    1) Avery Johnson assuming he gets fired
    2) Tom Thibodeau
    3) Mark Jackson
    4) D’Antoni

    And for the record I think I’d trade Crawford for Ford in a second, regardless of health issues. Crawford’s deal expires one year later than we need it to, and I can’t stand watching his matador defense. Even if Ford is a complete bust and gets injured, at least his salary comes off the cap after 2010 when we need it to. Bring Ford in, move Marbury off the ball, play Balkman/Chandler at the 3, Lee at the 4, and Curry at the 5 for starters, then bring Nate, Balkman or Chandler, and Zach off the bench.

  26. caleb

    I’d consider all 4 of those guys decent choices, actually.

    I’d like to see D’Antoni, although I can’t imagine why he’d take the job.

    He showed his weakness this postseason – in-game strategy – but in general I think that part of the coaching game is overrated. I think he’s terrific – great imagination, and knows how to get his best players on the floor. For example, I think a lot of coaches without a traditional center would have played some chump in the middle, and left Amare at PF…

    I think Thibodeau has a chance to be terrific — call him my co-#1 pick.

    Avery is fine, but hasn’t mastered that notion of adapting to his personnel. I also don’t see where we did anything for Devin Harris. IMO, Dallas’ problems are more due to bad personnel decisions than coaching issues, but it seemed a lot of those decisions were based on Avery’s desires… Dallas has been excellent the past few years, but it’s hard to argue that they’ve overachieved. And if you want to talk about in-game coaching, do you want the guy whose team wiped out in the first round two years running, and also blew that Miami lead a few years ago?

    Even Jax – obviously a big gamble, but if you’re going to consider anyone with no coaching experience (remind me why, again?), it’d probably be him. Smart guy, long career, almost a player-coach on the floor…

  27. caleb

    re: trades…

    “Even if Ford is a complete bust and gets injured, at least his salary comes off the cap after 2010 when we need it to..”

    Unfortunately, he’s got an $8.7 million player option for 2010-2011, which he’ll no doubt pick up while he convalesces in the hospital. If he actually expired in 2010, I’d do it in a heartbeat to clear the cap space, but I honestly think the odds are less than 50-50 that Ford’s career even lasts that long.

    “What about Curry and Jeffries for Nene?”

    Assuming the medical prognosis was for Nene to be able to really play, long-term, I’d go for it… Nene is solid, especially on D, and even though his contract is long, it’s not THAT big on a per-year basis. He’s also young enough, that if healthy we could probably re-package him in a year, if that’s the way way wanted to go. I doubt Denver would do this one, though.

    In general – it should be an exciting off-season for non-Knick fans. Lots of big-time players on teams with virtually no chance of getting better the next few years. if they want to sell high and avoid a Garnett situation… these guys could be on the market.

    Like Dirk – I mean, by the time the Mavs have any chance of patching things up, in 2-3 years, he’ll be in his 30s… why not try to trade him now? Like, to Cleveland for Ilgauskas, Szerbiak, a pair of first-roudners and Boobie Gibson? One one level it sounds ludicrous, but on another level — Dallas is going nowhere WITH him; this way they get huge cap space in a year, and 3 1st-round picks. Maybe they can do better, but that’s the idea…

    (I’d probably keep Josh Howard, but listen to offers. Would Dallas take Wilson Chandler & Crawford? Throw in a re-signed Randolph Morris?)

    And if you were the GM, wouldn’t you try to trade Steve Nash, Carmelo Anthony, Gilbert Arenas & Antawn Jamison (sign-and trades), Baron Davis… maybe Yao, considering what they could get for him, and how good they are without him? Not to mention the perennial trade bait like Kirilenko and Artest… and the big expiring contracts of Kidd, Iverson & Shawn Marion…

  28. Ted Nelson

    “why doesn’t the NBA have a “flopping” foul?”

    If you want to fall on the ground for no reason I’m not sure you should be penalized. If the refs are doing their jobs you’re only hurting yourself by flopping.

    “how about Iverson and Kenyon Martin for Marbury and Zach?”

    Denver isn’t great but they’re a playoff team in the West, I don’t see them jumping at the chance to take back two career losers.

    I agree that Carmelo’s not a first Team All-NBA type, and is therefore likely overrated by most, but he’s still a young guy whose done nothing but win in college and the NBA. I think Denver will be keeping him and trying to “build around him.”

    “Camby, coming off two great years…”

    They’ll likely keep Camby, but they might be smart to move him while his value is high and before he starts to age (they were smart to sign him to a deal that declines every year). Marvin Williams wouldn’t be a bad guy to get in return… some lottery team would likely give their pick, a shorter deal, and maybe another young piece hoping that Camby’s D will put them in the playoffs.

    “I can’t imagine there being much interest in Crawford around the league.”

    I’ve been beating a dead horse for months on this, but I disagree. Not that every team in the NBA is dying to get Jamal Crawford, but I have to assume that anyone who doesn’t love David Lee sees his as the Knicks most attractive piece (in part because if they don’t love Lee they don’t put much stock in advanced stats). He averaged 20 points and 5 assists in 40 mpg, I’m not sure how many NBA decision makers look at advanced stats (certainly a growing number, but I would still think a minority).

    If you can trade an aging Big Dog Robinson for the pick that landed TJ Ford, I have a hard time believing that there’s no interest in Crawford. Cap flexibilty has become more valuable around NBA front offices, but there has to be one or more team that takes a look at their roster and decides Crawford will help them out more than a mid-late lottery pick and/or a young guy on their roster. Ala Charrlotte trading the pick that turned into Brandan Wright for Jason Richardson last offseason.

    “I would trade Crawford for TJ Ford.”

    I probably would, but I’m not really sure. I’m going to wait until after the lottery drawing to even consider it…

    “In general – it should be an exciting off-season for non-Knick fans. Lots of big-time players on teams with virtually no chance of getting better the next few years. if they want to sell high and avoid a Garnett situation… these guys could be on the market.”

    I don’t necessarily disagree, but I’m not sure this is how most NBA decision makers think. Teams don’t usually move their franchise player for scraps if they’re making the playoffs. I’m not sure the Mavs and Suns front offices are on the “they’re on the decline” bandwagon. More likely they’re blaming it on their coaches and trying to tweak the roster around the core they’ve worked hard to assemble. Overall, I sort of assume this will be a relatively quite offseason with the teams that made huge in-season deals waiting till next season when their “chemistry” is better. You never know though, I definitely didn’t think the Suns would ever trade for Shaq. If I were a decision maker on some of these teams I might consider some big chances, I just doubt the actual decision makers will.

  29. dave crockett

    I doubt that D’Antoni is a fit for NY. I’d imagine he has little interest in rebuilding and that he’d also have the same philosophical clash with Walsh he is alleged to be having with Kerr and Sarver.

    Professionally, Toronto is the most logical destination for D’Antoni as jon abbey points out. However, he may be a candidate that opens up opportunities. If Nellie walks away from Golden State that’d be another fairly clean fit for D’Antoni.

    When all is said and done I anticipate that Walsh will pull the trigger on Mark Jackson with Thibodeaux as the dark horse. I think he prefers an inexperienced coach for a rebuilding situation.

  30. caleb

    “I’m not sure this is how most NBA decision makers think. Teams don’t usually move their franchise player for scraps if they’re making the playoffs. I’m not sure the Mavs and Suns front offices are on the “they’re on the decline” bandwagon. More likely they’re blaming it on their coaches and trying to tweak the roster around the core they’ve worked hard to assemble…”

    I think you’re right, Ted, that most GMs will not see it the way that you or I do — but right now there just seem to be a few cases where it is more painfully obvious than ever. Especially Phoenix. Granted, they’ll probably wait until the trade deadline, when Nash’s decline will be more obvious and they’ve seen that the #15 pick didn’t solve all their problems.

    Dallas probably won’t see the light — their key players are younger, so in some ways it’s not as critical to move them… but from an objective basketball standpoint, they’re not gonna win with this core of Nowitzki, Howard, Terry and Kidd… and the trade value on those guys will never be higher. Maybe if one of the not-worst teams (like Portland or Chicago) wins the lottery, they’d trade the #1 or 2 pick for a guy like Nowitzki, who knows.

  31. cwod

    I’m a big fan of D’Antoni’s creativity, but he’s not a fit for NY. As people have been saying, he could land in Toronto.

    Wasn’t there some report that Randolph threw a party and told some of the people there that he doesn’t expect to be back next season?

  32. Z

    “Randolph threw a party and told some of the people there that he doesn’t expect to be back next season”

    That is a reason to party…

  33. MJG

    Blowing up the Mavs now makes sense to me. Move Dirk and see if Brandon Bass is ready to take the PF job full time. They need to get him some minutes.

    Friend of mine suggested that the Suns should trade Nash for Gilbert Arenas. Nash would actually help the Wizards with their ball movement, and Arenas gives the Suns another no-defense chucker.

  34. NIck

    I don’t know that I’d be blowing up my team that with the exception of the Kidd trade was in the Finals two years ago and had the best record in the league last year so I could effectively rebuild around Brandon Bass.

  35. caleb

    You wouldn’t be rebuilding around Bass (though he’s a nice player); you’d be rebuilding around your new draft picks (in exchange for Dirk) and your new free agents that you signed with the newfound cap room.

    depends on your priorities — Mavs can be good for a while without doing anything drastic, but hard to see them as championship contenders, unless they get lucky with 1 or 2 late round picks or low-level FA signings who suddenly become big-time players.

    I could see Arenas (or Baron Davis) landing with the Clippers… they could swap a top-6 draft pick and a lot of expiring $$$ (including Shaun Livingston)… and a veteran star might actually make them a good team, alongside Brand and Kaman.

  36. retropkid

    “Not that every team in the NBA is dying to get Jamal Crawford, but I have to assume that anyone who doesn’t love David Lee sees his as the Knicks most attractive piece (in part because if they don’t love Lee they don’t put much stock in advanced stats). He averaged 20 points and 5 assists in 40 mpg, I’m not sure how many NBA decision makers look at advanced stats (certainly a growing number, but I would still think a minority).”

    NBA decision-makers can look at his shooting percentage, including the number of games when it was just god-awful…and watch tape to see his lousy D too…It’s pretty easy to see Jamal isn’t much.

  37. caleb

    Put this in the FWIW category:

    Tom (Sydney, Australia): Who’s the front-runner for the Knicks job now?

    Chad Ford: (5:30 PM ET ) Here’s the order I’d put it in:

    1. Mike D’Antoni
    2. Sam Mitchell
    3. Avery Johnson
    4. Mark Jackson

    I’ve been cracking up on all of the NY media reports that Donnie Walsh is moving at a snail’s pace on the coaching search. Can you blame him? If he can get a coach like D’Antoni, it’s worth the wait. Mark Jackson isn’t going anywhere.

  38. MJG

    Arenas to the Clips makes a lot of sense for both teams, assuming the Clippers want to get into the playoffs next year. They would be interesting with Elton Brand coming back as well.

    My thought on the Mavs getting rid of Dirk now is based on the idea that they’ve had their run with this team and as long as they have Jason Kidd they will not be winning any championships. Kidd is probably not tradeable, but Dirk is.

    Re: Jamal Crawford, seems to meother GMs could very well see him as a useful piece and chalk up the bad percentages to the general atmosphere surrounding the Knicks…

  39. villainx

    “but why doesn’t the NBA have a “flopping” foul?”

    I agree with Ted. The tele-broadcast made a big deal about flopping and a flopping foul. Why? Properly called, all it does is give an open shot to the opposition.

  40. villainx

    And I don’t know about Dallas. Most here are saying that they can’t advance with the current makeup.

    But they made it pretty deep two years ago, beating Spurs and Suns. Yeah, with different personnel. But new coach and a big man of some sort, maybe? I know, not easy especially with their cap situation.

    But if you have a decent shot, don’t you have to keep trying? Especially with whatever younger/new players gotten from trade/draft ain’t necessarily or even likely to get Dallas to a similar position of success.

  41. MJG

    All true. A lot has changed in 2 years for the Mavs, however. They will be trying to win with a new coach, Dirk is no longer an up-and-coming star but a sketchy playoff performer, Josh Howard had an awful year and a worse playoff run, Terry’s limitations have never been more apparent, and Harris is no longer with the team.

    All this and the only team with a payroll worse than the Knicks. This is why so many people are down on this franchise.

  42. W.C.

    If Cuban decides to blow up Dallas, I don’t it’s going to be in order to rebuild from scratch. I think he’s going to try a quick rebuild around Dirk, but with new pieces. IMO, the only way he would get rid of Dirk is if there’s a deal that’s so good he simply can’t pass it up.

    I think he’s probably going top stay with Dirk and possibly Howard (depending on where his head is at) and move almost everything else he can among the aging players that get a lot of playing time.

    You really only need 3 major pieces to contend. Dirk and Howard are 2 of them. Both have plenty of good years left, but the current mix can’t get it done.

  43. W.C.

    >Not that every team in the NBA is dying to get Jamal Crawford, but I have to assume that anyone who doesn’t love David Lee sees him as the Knicks most attractive piece (in part because if they don’t love Lee they don’t put much stock in advanced stats). He averaged 20 points and 5 assists in 40 mpg, I’m not sure how many NBA decision makers look at advanced stats (certainly a growing number, but I would still think a minority).<

    I would be shocked if any NBA teams don’t keep at least some form of advanced stats, but they also rely on scouting reports a great deal. The stats alone simply don’t tell you enough about a player’s limitations, how much their favorable/negative stats are a product of the talent and chemistry of their specific teamates etc… They also don’t get at intangibles well. You have to watch the games to get at some of that stuff.

    I think everyone in the NBA knows Crawford’s limitations and flaws, but I’d be willing to bet they also think he’s not as bad as many NY stats oriented fans think he is.

    IMO, it would be very easy to improve those stats and his efficiency by putting him on a good team and taking some of the scoring burden off him. He’d score less but take fewer bad shots, hit a higher percentage, play a little more defense etc…. He has been used poorly in NY partly because Isiah is a moron, but partly because he’s the only guy on the team whose Sphincter doesn’t get tight at crunch time. If he was on a team with a couple of players with some heart he would be a lot better.

  44. Ted Nelson

    “I would be shocked if any NBA teams don’t keep at least some form of advanced stats”

    I really wouldn’t be…
    Most top decision makers are former players with big egos and a belief they know the game better than anyone (especially statisticians).

    “IMO, it would be very easy to improve those stats and his efficiency by putting him on a good team and taking some of the scoring burden off him. He’d score less but take fewer bad shots, hit a higher percentage, play a little more defense etc…. He has been used poorly in NY partly because Isiah is a moron, but partly because he’s the only guy on the team whose Sphincter doesn’t get tight at crunch time. If he was on a team with a couple of players with some heart he would be a lot better.”

    He had one of his best seasons with Larry Brown, so I agree. He’s still a bad shooter, but can be a useful player.

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