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Friday, August 22, 2014

NBA Draft Lottery – On Twitter

Follow me on Twitter for updates from the draft lottery. KnickerBlogger’s own John B. Kenney & Robert Silverman are there to dish the dirt & provide coverage, 140 characters at a time.

28 comments on “NBA Draft Lottery – On Twitter

  1. ess-dog

    Man, who the hell do the T-Wolves take? The last thing they need is another tweener pf.

  2. Garson

    Caves taking Irving makes sessions expendable … No? Would love him coming off the bench with td.

  3. ess-dog

    Garson:
    Caves taking Irving makes sessions expendable … No? Would love him coming off the bench with td.

    I was thinking that but it would probably cost us TD to get him – or our #17 pick.

  4. ess-dog

    I think the Wolves have to take Kemba #2. Not feelin’ Williams or the euro bigs.

  5. daJudge

    Sorry for the re-post and length. Please, please, please, don’t take Charles over Jimmer (or any other guard), if he is available. This would be a terrible mistake. Jimmer can play the One and will be an awesome NBA player. Great scoring ability, crazy range, shot maker, smart, can pass, will hustle big time, vastly underrated athlete (for stupid irrational cultural reasons), insane vertical and can readily be coached. Great kid—you’all can take that to the bank. That’s first hand. Dealt with the huge hype and BS and will freak’in thrive in NY. Also, dealt with a teammate who was excluded from the Big Dance for having consensual sex. Unbelievably solid family with a serious basketball pedigree. Please do not pass on him he is available. If the Knicks go for a Big, I get it. However, he is the guard to pick if he is on the board. Disclaimer—If you didn’t guess it, I am a big time homer (which would otherwise be clear, but most of you don’t seem to read or respond to my posts, which is cool), but that doesn’t mean I am not right.

  6. BigBlueAL

    Chad Ford’s latest mock draft has both Morris and Faried gone by #17 so he has the Knicks drafting Josh Selby.

    I may kill myself if that happens. He might be the worst statistical PG in the entire draft. If they go PG at 17 because the best bigs most likely to fall to them are gone then I hope they go with Reggie Jackson.

  7. SeeWhyDee77

    BigBlueAL:
    Chad Ford’s latest mock draft has both Morris and Faried gone by #17 so he has the Knicks drafting Josh Selby.

    I may kill myself if that happens.He might be the worst statistical PG in the entire draft.If they go PG at 17 because the best bigs most likely to fall to them are gone then I hope they go with Reggie Jackson.

    Thank you BBA!! Finally someone who agrees with me on Jackson lol. Here’s the million dollar question..and this is assuming that we are all in unison on Fredette…if he were to miraculously fall to 17 and both he and Jackson are available, who do we pick? Do we go with the insane offense of Fredette (whom I believe will be outstanding as long as he’s coached by Mike D), or the insane defensive potential and problee half the offense of Fredette, of Jackson? I’m old school, so I’m a lil biased to Jackson and his upside defensively..but the offensive talents of Fredette may be too hard to pass up.Fredette’s like a Steve Nash with more scoring ability and less court vision to me. Jackson’s like a Scottie Pippen(freakishly long, can shoot-pass-dribble-rebound-defend) in a PG’s body sort of..with less scoring ability..thas the only comparison I can come up with. I wouldn’t wanna make that decision. With D’Antoni in town, passing over Fredette would get u raked over the coals by the media. But at the same time passing over Jackson may not be the best decision if u wanna build a well rounded team..which could get u raked over the coals as well.

  8. DRed

    That was just an insane display of shooting by Dirk. Holy shit. 46 points on 15 shots, and no threes!

  9. Owen

    Dirk was ridiculous tonight. I don’t know what the most efficient 40+ game in NBA history is but if it wasn’t tonight I would be surprised. 48 points on 27 possessions. That is bananas.

    And despite that it was a reasonably close game late. Should be a heck of a series.

    I find it somehow fitting that the Clippers traded away the top pick in the draft. Obviously they couldn’t have known that but the bad Karma there continues. Irving to Griffin would have been quite a combo.

  10. jon abbey

    actually I’d be pretty happy with Selby, who I think has good upside after a year at Kansas that didn’t work out very well for him. Reggie Jackson might be good too, it seems to me that all of the big men who might be there are not big enough, a legit 7 footer is what we need. if Tyler Zeller had declared, I might have hoped for him but as it is, it seems like a PG might be the best bet.

    I would not be happy with Jimmer, I think he’ll be a sieve on D and too one-dimensional.

  11. taggart4800

    We are a veteran team now with an offseason to work with… Sean Williams anybody?? Great athlete who has done his time in the D-League and surely would be worth a shout. With the veteran presence around him to control his behavior he could be an absolute steal. Then if we could buy 2 picks and draft Klay Thompson, Tobias Harris and Charles Jenkins/ Reggie Jackson we would be about set :)

    Whilst I am dreaming how about Tayshaun Prince decides to play for the Vets Min as does Michael Redd and Sam Dalembert. God I’m looking forward to next season now!!

  12. daJudge

    Jon Abbey: I don’t think Jimmer is a great defensive player, but I would temper this by noting that BYU’s defense was designed in part to keep him out of foul trouble and on the court. He certainly has a fine work ethic and is not afraid of contact. I think these are two traits that can lead to good defense. I think Jackson is also an excellent player. My case for Jimmer is that he is not just a shooter and I believe he has what it takes to run the offense and certainly the pick and roll. He would also be a lethal stretch player cutting through the baselines. I would also cut him some slack on the defense, given his position, like I would do for a Steve Nash type of player. I would be more focused on defense if I were drafting a Big. As noted, the so called Bigs that might be available are not that Big.

  13. flossy

    I don’t know much about Reggie Jackson. All I ask is that if we end up drafting someone the size of a point guard, that he have the skill set of a point guard. Toney Douglas is already a perfectly capable combo guard off the bench. I don’t see the upside in drafting someone too small to play significant minutes at the 2 (i.e. Jimmer, and maybe Jackson from what I’ve ready) who will need to learn on the job as far as running an NBA offense is concerned. I all I want on draft day is a pass-first PG, if we end up going small.

    I guess what I’m saying is if Jimmer and Darius Morris are both available at 17 I’d prefer the latter even though he can’t shoot. Then we wouldn’t even need Ramon Sessions and we could keep Toney Douglas.

  14. flossy

    @DaJudge

    I just think Jimmer is one of those players who looks great on a team built around him (and against amateur competition, I might add) but who would provide diminishing returns as the fourth option (at best) on the Knicks. Let’s just say Melo, Amar’e and Billups did not buy tickets to the Jimmer Fredette show.

  15. Brian Cronin

    I like Derrick Williams, but he doesn’t really seem to fit in either Minnesota, does he? What do you think Cleveland would have to give up along with the #4 pick to move up to #2? Or do you think Minnesota would be better off just trading out of the lottery period (presumably to a team with a veteran player to offer)? It would be amazing if Cleveland could pick up Irving and Williams in one draft and basically re-make their team right away…

    Irving
    Parker
    Williams
    Hickson
    Varejao

    That’s not a half bad team.

  16. Frank

    There’s probably not a chance in the world of this, but Daniel Gilbert’s ridiculous prediction at the time that the Cavs would win a championship before Lebron is not THAT farfetched. I think Miami’s window is probably open until the 2013-14 season – Wade will be 32 by the middle of that season, and seems likely to break down by that point, if not before. They are totally capped out until 2015-16, and have few draft picks to improve their team. It seems likely that in the new CBA the MLE will either be much smaller or that there will be a hard cap, meaning they’ll have to convince FA’s to take big paycuts in order to play with Miami Thrice.

    Meanwhile – and not even talking about our NYK – assuming that the new CBA makes it feasible for Chicago to resign Rose – the Bulls roster is basically signed through 2013-14, with Noah signed through 15-16 and presumably Rose signed long-term. Chicago has ALL their own 1st rounders, and has Charlotte’s 2012 lottery-protected pick (and 2 late 1st rounders this year) to boot.

    Cleveland, on the other hand, has 8 1st rounders in the next 5 drafts (2 in 2011, 1 in 2012, 2 in 2013, 1 in 2014, 2 in 2015) and by next summer will only have ~$28M in salary commitments for 2012. They’d have to hit on their draft picks and not do stupid things like trade for more Antawn Jamisons, but it’s not inconceivable…

  17. Frank

    @15 and 17 – I’m not sure that we have the luxury of picking another guy whose major value is volume scoring. I think Jimmer is great but his ceiling feels like maybe a slightly better JJ Redick – I love Redick but I think we have bigger needs – like a true PnR type distributor to play with Amare, a true big man that can protect the rim and take the pounding that wore Amare down all year, or a real dominant-type wing defender/3 point specialist.

  18. flossy

    Frank:
    @15 and 17 – I’m not sure that we have the luxury of picking another guy whose major value is volume scoring.I think Jimmer is great but his ceiling feels like maybe a slightly better JJ Redick – I love Redick but I think we have bigger needs – like a true PnR type distributor to play with Amare, a true big man that can protect the rim and take the pounding that wore Amare down all year, or a real dominant-type wing defender/3 point specialist.

    Couldn’t agree more.

  19. ess-dog

    Ultimately, I think I’m against trading for a pg right now, unless it’s for practically nothing.

    TD has his flaws, but trading him for Sessions doesn’t really move us forward. We have Billups this year, and we can either draft a point guard and/or rent someone on a one year deal. Guys like Ben Uzoh, Earl Watson, or even Royal Ivey (worst case) could come in and give us 10 min. a game on a one year deal. We could also buy a 2nd rounder and use that on which ever pg shakes out: Jenkins, Shumpert, Norris Cole, Selby.

    Faried/Jenkins/Watson/TD/Jordan/Shawne is a pretty good bench. Still no starting center, but the rest of the squad is sound. Maybe you get Williams from the D-league or get a guy like Hollins or Haddadi.

    I just think you don’t mess with the chance to get CP3 so that you can get a guy like Sessions.

  20. GHenman

    Since we’ll be playing against players like Rose, Rondo, and Wall for years to come, a point guard that can play defense like Reggie Jackson would be a great asset.

  21. ess-dog

    GHenman:
    Since we’ll be playing against players like Rose, Rondo, and Wall for years to come, a point guard that can play defense like Reggie Jackson would be a great asset.

    It sounds like Selby or Shumpert could be the best defenders (and best athletes) of the group.

  22. TDM

    If we stay at 17, I think the Knicks have to go for Reggie Jackson or Nolan Smith. Still think we should trade down where we still may be able to grab one of them (if not a guy like Darius Morris would do) and a big like Jordan Williams from Maryland.

    Not for nothing, but I think the Cavs getting the Nos. 1 and 4 is both a blessing and a curse. This draft has been widely ridiculed as the weakest on record, so you would have to think that the potential for plucking a bust are greater than the average year. While Cavs may end up with best pg and c in Irving and Kanter, neither player is a guaranteed superstar. Kanter’s knee issues are also a big concern. The last time I can remember a team having two picks this high was 2001 (sort of) when Chicago traded Elton Brand to the Clips for the second pick (Chandler) and the fourth pick (Eddy Curry). Those picks failed miserably to turn the post-Jordan Bulls into contenders.

  23. SeeWhyDee77

    ess-dog: It sounds like Selby or Shumpert could be the best defenders (and best athletes) of the group.

    Selby’s talented..as is Shumpert. Selby’s pretty tough on defense. But I can’t see burnin our pick on a player who we haven’t seen utilized properly. Maybe he blows everyone away at the workouts. But if i’m picking between Jackson and Selby..Jackson’s the pick. As athletic as Selby..a better shooter..and is incredibly long. Look at the other PG’s drafted recently that are similar to Jackson. 2 come to mind..Jrue Holiday and Russell Westbrook. U mean to tell me that u wouldn’t want that kinda defensive capability at the point? He’s already a better shooter than both guys and a better PG than Douglas. I don’t think that with a 1st round pick that u should ever go with the largely unknown, which is what Selby is at this point because of the way he was used at KU. Now as a young team looking for talent, u can problee afford to draft Selby at 17 since u have nothing to immediately play for other than finding what pieces work. But our Knicks aren’t in that position. Every roster move Walsh makes basically has to fit and be damn near a home run considering he sold the farm for Melo and we are pretty much a defensive/rebounding big and a reliable back up PG away from serious contention. Jackson’s closer to bein that home run than Selby is at this point. I’m not sayin one is better than the other talent wise..but we just know more about Jackson at this point. And the fact that his length will allow him to guard 1′s and 2′s puts him over Selby.

  24. flossy

    How pissed do you think Blake Griffin is that the Clips traded away the pick that would have become Kyrie Irving?

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