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1)Thomas’ most diasterous move was only the Curry trade because we have hindsight. At the time there is no way any of us thought we’d be in the low lottery. This was just after we got Brown.

To me a disaster trade is one where most reasonable people saw the horror right off the bat and knew Thomas was walking into a brick wall.

While there was disagreement over the merits of the trade nobody…nobody thought it was Mike and a top 3 pick for Curry. Including Thomas.

It was not a horrible trade, it turned INTO a horrible trade and while maybe it’s an argument of cimantics it is relevant.

2) Some young players do not respond well to being benched for stupid reasons. Most of them feel like their hard work is wasted and they don’t have the fortitude to continue to work when they know they won’t be rewarded and that ability is not rewarded with time.

Some players don’t mind that and can press on. Mike is a guy that can’t.

I have tried but fail to see the argument that Mike was not totally misused when he was here. I also fail to see the argument that his early work and results were rewarded adequatly.

Some players can continue to work hard, some get depressed and fall off the face of the earth. Mike is such a player.

In my view there is blame all around. Mike should have been a tougher personality and tried harder, but I also blame the mgt and coaching staff here for not using him properly.

While I haven’t looked too deep here I have a hypothesis that great players are great young as much because they are given the opportunity right away as that they are given the opportunity right away because they are great.

Amare Stoudemire was set to be the backup PF for the Suns the year he was drafted. Yes the team DID put Tom Gugliotta ahead of him going into the regular season. Long story short Tom goes down and Amare is forced to start and “out of nowhere” wins the rookie of the year.

How much of that was Amare already being great and how much of that was him not being yanked around and benched simply because of inexperience?

Meaning he had no time to ride pine behind an inferior player and what did that do to his confidence and how much did it speed up his learning curve.

In my opinion young players develope if they are allowed to PLAY. Not practice or scrimmage…but PLAY the games. Anyone who has ever seen young players in practice knows that practice is overrated. It’s one of the dirty little secrets in pro sports.

Mike should be mentally tougher, but the team should have played him when his per-48 numbers dictated he play more. And that was very early on.

I dunno, you’re probably right. Zeke has really screwed over this team, but given the talent on the roster, the team has the potential to become a better team than the one that he inherited; we’ve got one of the deepest backcourts in the league, and a bunch of young players with some big upsides. It’s just that Zeke has no idea how to find the players necessary to create a cohesive team. I agree with you 90%, I’m just playing devil’s advocate a bit.

I still have a bit of hope that LB will work with Zeke to make the roster changes he needs to run a successful franchise. Anyway, as a lifelong Knicks fan, I’m always hopeful…even now…to a degree. ^_^