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Sunday, September 21, 2014

Melo’s a Knick

The essay just dropped on Melo’s site making it official. From a pure writing perspective, it’s not as good as LeBron’s–and just because of the timing, it feels like he’s cranking out a tepid knockoff, a sub-par copy of the King’s speech–but then again, Melo didn’t have the clout to enlist the great Lee Jenkins as his ghostwriter. I really wish he’d reached out to some of the fine scribes at Knickerblogger. Next time. Here’s his words:

A few years ago I dreamed of coming back to New York City, the place of my birth, and on February 23, 2011 that became a reality. This organization has supported me and in return, I want to stay and build here with this city and my team. At this pivotal juncture in my career, I owed it to myself and my family to explore all of the options available to me. Through it all, my heart never wavered.

During this journey I met with some quality organizations who have amazing talent and leadership. I thank them for their consideration, belief in my talent, and opportunity to imagine the possibilities.

I will always remember this chapter in my life. In the end, I am a New York Knick at heart. I am looking forward to continue my career in Orange & Blue and to work with Phil Jackson, a champion who builds championship teams. Madison Square Garden is the mecca of basketball and I am surrounded by the greatest fans in the world.

Coach Fish appears to be pleased:

The “My City, My Heart” header is nice, but look, press release notwithstanding, this is as much wholly about his heart as it is his wallet and liking Phil/Fisher and shlepping his family to the Midwest or across the country. What I’m saying is, it’s complicated.

One of the great things about sports, what makes it so universally appealing, is that aside from the score, there are very, very few concrete, unassailable facts. You can take what happens on the field or court or ring and make it into whatever story interests you the most. If you want to scream that Melo is selfish and greedy, hey, if that’s what pings your entertainment cherries, cool beans. If you want to build cathedrals to his greatness, write epic poems to his loyalty/declare him the heir to Ewing’s throne (with all that encompasses), swell.

There really is no wrong way to be a fan. If it feels good, do it, Bruh. I mention this because so much ink/bytes have been spilled discussing Melo-as-a-concept/symbol of what’s wrong (or right) with the ‘Bockers franchise and/or Dolan, that I it can bury Melo the actual player. And yes, there’s a complex conversation about his value, but that’s an interesting conversation (again, from my personal preference with regards to fandom) to have.

For the moment, that’s over (thankfully). Contract deets will be forthcoming shortly (we assume).

UPDATE 1:18pm: TEAM OF EXCELLENCE

After three months of questions around Carmelo Anthony’s return to the New York Knicks, we are now happy to know that we have the cornerstone of what we envision as a ‘team of excellence.’Steve Mills and I have assured Carmelo through our conversations, that we have the vision and the determination to build this team and he has clearly bought into our message.

UPDATE 7:20pm: No actual numbers yet, but Phil said Melo took a pay cut heading into 2015. You can read it here.

119 comments on “Melo’s a Knick

  1. er

    Lol is this essay thing now a “thing” ? Bron and Melo were like”bruh , remember English 101″?

  2. The Prescient Cock Jowles

    With a little truth serum:

    “A few years ago I dreamed of coming back to New York City, the largest media market in the country, and on February 23, 2011 that became a reality. The organization traded the farm for me and, keeping things constant, I want to stay and accept the crippling $120M contract from this city and my team. At this pivotal juncture in my professional career, I owed it to myself and my family to see if I could make more money elsewhere through actually winning something for the first time since my year in the NCAA, and thus, bigger endorsement deals. Through it all, my strong-arming agent and the rest of his team at CAA never wavered.

    During this journey I met with some quality organizations who have superior talent and leadership. I thank them for their offers, belief in my shooting volume, and opportunity to imagine how much more I could win elsewhere with a cheaper contract.

    I will always remember this chapter in my earning potential. In the end, I am a New York Knick via contract. I am looking forward to continue my career in Orange and Blue and to work with Phil Jackson, the man who inexplicably offered me more money than any other team could offer me. Madison Square Garden is a great stage in this outstanding media market and I am surrounded by fans who, by and large, think I am a top 5 player in the league, which may or may not be true.”

  3. Hubert

    If you want to scream that Melo is selfish and greedy, hey, if that’s what pings your entertainment cherries, cool beans.

    I don’t think this a thing. No one is mad at Melo for wanting to get paid or not taking a “discount”. There is some disappointment in the Knicks FO for valuing him at a price more than we think he is worth, that’s all.

  4. The Prescient Cock Jowles

    I think Carmelo Anthony did the right thing for himself. I just don’t want to hear that he’s all about winning. And I don’t want to hear that there’s some intangible benefit to offering him significantly more money than anyone else could, even if they would have offered him (lol) $250M if they could have.

  5. GoNyGoNYGo

    I, for one, am glad to have Melo back. He is coming back to win and I think this team is underrated – even by those here. Overall health is the main question followed by chemistry. Leadership is what we need and that starts from Phil Jackson to Derek Fisher and on to Carmelo Anthony himself. They should not concede anything in 14-15. A single good piece, whether that piece is a free agent or comes in a trade will make a big difference.

    I already see some emerging youth on this team; early signs about Early are good. We need a resurgence from players on the team. If JR stayed away from the weed, Bargnani has healed and gotten his strength back and Stoudemire has kept those knees well oiled, the foundation will be there. The Knicks can turn-about immediately. Defense and rebounding are the big question marks from a skills standpoint but I think there’s gonna be a move to get a thumper.

    There is a drop off from Chandler to Dalembert but the difference between Calderon and Felton is huge. Having another outside threat at a new position in the rotation is going to help. Let’s just hope that whoever starts at center can defend the paint and sweep the boards.

    I’m excited for 2014-15. It’ll be a fun team to watch.

  6. ess-dog

    Jowles is right. It’s bad business, although this seemed inevitable, considering all we’ve done for Melo already. The organization is just staying consistent. I look at it this way: Phil can’t just be good moving forward, he has to be one of the best rookie GMs ever to get us over the hump.

  7. er

    I just don’t want to hear that he’s all about winning

    Isn’t this a misnomer though? If all any athlete cared about was winning they would play for minimum money and join a power team in their prime

  8. Hubert

    accept the crippling $120M contract

    I don’t like it, either, but it isn’t crippling.

  9. hoolahoop

    Kudos. Well done. Everyone loves a little honesty.

    “A few years ago I dreamed of coming back to New York City, the largest media market in the country, and on February 23, 2011 that became a reality. The organization traded the farm for me and, keeping things constant, I want to stay and accept the crippling $120M contract from this city and my team. At this pivotal juncture in my professional career, I owed it to myself and my family to see if I could make more money elsewhere through actually winning something for the first time since my year in the NCAA, and thus, bigger endorsement deals. Through it all, my strong-arming agent and the rest of his team at CAA never wavered.

    During this journey I met with some quality organizations who have superior talent and leadership. I thank them for their offers, belief in my shooting volume, and opportunity to imagine how much more I could win elsewhere with a cheaper contract.

    I will always remember this chapter in my earning potential. In the end, I am a New York Knick via contract. I am looking forward to continue my career in Orange and Blue and to work with Phil Jackson, the man who inexplicably offered me more money than any other team could offer me. Madison Square Garden is a great stage in this outstanding media market and I am surrounded by fans who, by and large, think I am a top 5 player in the league, which may or may not be true.”

  10. bocker84

    Isn’t this a misnomer though? If all any athlete cared about was winning they would play for minimum money and join a power team in their prime

    THANK YOU ER.

    I’ve been reading site for years and I hardly comment, but I just had to show my appreciation for that line.

  11. hoolahoop

    That’s why if I was an athlete I wouldn’t give a fuck about fans. You can’t win.

    If I was an pro athlete making $22 million a year for five years, or $16 million, wouldn’t matter an iota to me. I’d play for my teammates, the fans and the organization that’s paying me crazy money. And forever, I’d always being trying to live up to the expectations of the former two.

  12. GoNyGoNYGo

    @8 – I know the debate about how much Carmelo would be worth on the open market seems ludicrous to you, but if there was no cap nor a limit on years, don’t you think that a 10-year $250M contract would be out there?

    Yeah, Melo, because of his age, wouldn’t get a 10 year deal now. What about a $35/year over 7? Do you find that far fetched? Don’t you think that teams like the Knicks, Bulls and Lakers wouldn’t be willing to shell out oodles of money for stars if there was no salary cap or luxury tax? I do.

    Look at MLB. Is Robinson Cano worth what he got? CC Sabathia looked good and got a ring. What about now? The NBA, with it’s premium on the superstars, would certainly have the highest paid players in a free market.

    Don’t get me wrong. I agree with everyone’s statements about value in current CBA terms. His earning max or near max dollars is going to limit access to free agents down the road. It means the Knicks need to be judicious on how to spread the balance of available money. I do expect them to go after another big contract in 2015-16. That’s a drama for next summer. Stay tuned.

  13. hoolahoop

    Now, all there is for us to do is get behind him and hope the front office doesn’t keep screwing up.

  14. johnlocke

    I think it’s a fad on here to smugly criticize… but w no realistic viable alternatives. I’m glad Melo’s back, and it’s reported he struck a deal that will give us a little more cap flexibility in 2015. Good news all around. There is no 14 yr old Lebron on the horizon to tank for, and players want to play with Melo and for Phil…should be an interesting ride

  15. GoNyGoNYGo

    I think it’s a fad on here to smugly criticize… but w no realistic viable alternatives.

    Bingo. Let’s see what the tone is in December. Winning tends to change attitudes – so does losing. Bitterness is the latest taste in our mouths.

  16. Kahnzy

    I already see some emerging youth on this team; early signs about Early are good. We need a resurgence from players on the team. If JR stayed away from the weed, Bargnani
    never heals and Stoudemire has kept those knees well oiled, the foundation will be there. The Knicks can turn-about immediately.

    Fixed that for you.

  17. Mike Kurylo

    Bargnani has healed and gotten his strength back

    Really does anyone believe this? 10 years of Knicks advanced stats, and this is where we are?

  18. 2FOR18

    I’d respect him if he just came out and said that he came back because the Knicks offered him the most money, because after all, there is nothing wrong with that, in a vacuum. But in the context of the salary cap, and his quotes about not caring about money and only caring about winning, that letter is pure BS political spin.
    He is all about the money, and that’s fine, but:
    1) be honest about it
    2) LeBron has now twice taken less money to go play where he wants.

  19. Unreason

    If Sam Hinkie is Max Bialystock, isn’t Bargnacolypse’s contract the irresistible script for Springtime for Hitler? Fish in a barrel, right?

  20. Frank O.

    I still want to see the numbers.
    I reserve how I feel til then.
    One nice thing: rather than Melo taking the two option years and forcing the Knicks to consider signing him to a max deal at age 32, they do five years at 30. That’s the half full view.

    But if he takes $120 million over fiveless than $2 mil per year, which isn’t much. Maybe he structures it to back load the money and gives the Knicks greater flex this year and next.

    But we have to see.
    He messed things up by forcing the Knicks to trade too much for him. I hope he learned from that.

  21. er

    @23 so you don’t think Melo likes playing here? If something is ALL about money that means there are 0 other factors. The poster who used the wimped smug was right

  22. Unreason

    @ 26 ER: Did you mean my post?

    I’m just hoping that Jackson recognizes the marvelous fit between the 76ers tanking and salary floor needs and Barngani’s prodigious contract and ineptitude. Nothing to do with Melo.

  23. Will the Thrill

    By giving those interviews and saying that he doesn’t care about money and he wants a ring, Melo sure made it seem like he was willing to take a meaningful discount to help the team win. ~7 million over 5 years is pretty much nothing. I don’t blame Melo for getting his money, but he shouldn’t have said he doesn’t care about money because him taking a meaningful discount (~100 million over 5 years) would make winning (his supposed top priority) a whole lot easier for this team.

  24. er

    Melo sure made it seem like he was willing to take a meaningful discount to help the team win

    Meaningful for who? Everyone has their own arbitrary number.

    If all you guys are hanging off of every word an athlete says then you have the root of the issue . It’s been long known to take it all with a grain of salt. If an athlete says Money doesn’t matter, why don’t you ask him to play for the min? You don’t because it’s ludacris.

  25. Hubert

    LeBron has now twice taken less money to go play where he wants.

    LeBron did not take less money to go to Cleveland. He sacrificed long term security for a short term deal that enables him to have more control over Gilbert.

    Let’s put aside his bullshit PR letter than so many people want to believe is true. LeBron just became the first player/owner in sports. He and his people are going to run that team and he’ll probably eventually get an ownership stake.

    There were a lot of reports recently that LeBron didn’t like how Riley didn’t let LeBron’s people be more involved. They’re going to be involved now with the Cavs. It wasn’t about NE Ohio, it was about power, and control.

    So please spare me how Melo looks greedy compared to LeBron.

  26. The Prescient Cock Jowles

    er,

    That’s a false dilemma, bro. There’s a lot of space between “accepts minimum offer to free up cap space” and “accepts nearly the maximum offer and totally wrecks future cap flexibility.”

    I don’t think Carmelo did anything wrong beyond talking about his “win-first” mentality. He’s max-salary-first, then win-first. Phil Jackson offered his quee and Carmelo took it. Now Jackson has to figure out how to be competitive despite that.

  27. massive

    I’m not worried about how much Melo makes as long as Cole Aldrich and Tim Hardaway Jr can develop into Spurs-level rotation players that make below market value. Dalembert, Aldrich, Calderon, and Prigioni guarantee us good play from the two most important positions in basketball, so we’ll be a better team than we were last year. Maybe our 2015 pick works well for us, maybe we strike gold in the 2015 FA market, or maybe we bottom out over the next five years. A lot of winning a championship has to do with the supporting roster, and how Jackson decides to build that roster is still very much up in the air as we have contracts coming off the books next season. I’m hoping for Marc Gasol and some supporting pieces.

  28. JK47

    So, the Knicks now only have the taxpayer exception and veteran minimum contracts left to spend. There’s also a bit of a roster crunch. If the season started right now, the roster would look like:

    C Dalembert, Aldrich, Bargnani
    PF Stoudemire
    SF Anthony, Early
    SG Smith, Shumpert, Ellington, Hardaway
    PG Calderon, Prigioni, Larkin

    That’s 13 guys, with Thanasis in the D-League. The most glaring need on the team right now is a banger power forward. WP48 fave Jeff Adrien is out there; he’s undersized for a PF and he stunk until last year but he did deliver bread-and-butter WP48-type performance last season, putting up a not-bad .553 TS% to go along with his 11.5 REB/36. Ed Davis is a free agent but he’ll probably make more than the taxpayer exception somewhere else. Kris Humpdashian is a free agent, but, erm, I dunno. K-Mart is an option but I think I’d want someone healthier than him. Then there’s Trevor Booker, who seems like a good fit in some ways– has some post-up ability, good offensive rebounder– but is not a strong defender.

  29. JK47

    I also would not mind MWP coming back on a minimum contract, assuming he is not completely broken down physically. He was a fish out of water playing for Mike Woodson’s Switchapalooza Defense, and never got a chance to do the thing he is good at, which is to play smart, tough half-court defense. Metta does not look pretty on a stat sheet but as a defensive specialist role player he might be a decent vet min addition.

  30. ephus

    The haircut that LBJ took to go back to Cleveland is pretty small. He took the same money this year in Cleveland that he could have gotten in Miami under a new contract. That money is 2.5% below what he would have gotten if he had not correct.

    For next year, he is only scheduled to get a 4.5% raise. That is less than the 7.5% raise he could have gotten from Miami. But LBJ can opt out again next year and get up to a 20% raise to the new maximum using Non-Bird Rights. If the salary cap is $66 million next year, the Max would be $23.1. I would expect LBJ to sign another 2 year contract, with a player option on the second year.

    In 2016, LBJ will be in position to cash in on the big expected rise in the salary cap with the new NBA national media contract. ESPN has reported that the salary cap may move up to $80 million. If it does, LBJ could sign a 5 year/$161 million deal with Cleveland (using Early Bird Rights – up to 175% of prior salary) starting at $28 million.

    LBJ may be going after the money in a more methodical way than Carmelo, but do not believe the hype that LBJ is Mr. Self-Sacrifice and Carmelo is Mr. Greedy. They both are trying to get paid.

  31. Hubert

    ESPN has reported that the salary cap may move up to $80 million. If it does, LBJ could sign a 5 year/$161 million deal with Cleveland

    And if at that point we have Melo signed for 3 years at the current max, it might not be as bad.

    Look I’m not crazy about Melo at the max, but it’s not like we just handed it to him (he played his cards well, had legit offer from Lakers and the rockets loomed large). And if the salary landscape changes it may mitigate the damage of his final three years.

  32. Frank O.

    Oh, I think we’re 10 games better swapping Calderon for Felton.
    That will make Melo better.
    It will make stat better.
    It makes our three point and PnR better.

    Melo and Stat really figured out how to play together. If Stat can be the guy he was over the last 22 games, we could be dangerous. You know he’ll be fit for the season. I believe in Stat

  33. Hubert

    Ephus, a few thoughts on your points in the other thread:

    I don’t expect another amnesty because I think enough well run teams will fight against it bc it’s such a huge boon to poorly run teams. This last CBA was so game changing that you had to include it because any team stuck with one of the old deals was at too drastic a disadvantage. I can’t see the owners even attempting to take away so much more money from the players in 2017 after their total victory last time so there probably wouldn’t be any holdover contracts that don’t fit the new landscape.

    If anything, there should be a strike by the players before the CBA expires. They can never win a lockout, it’s obvious. But if they can sit out an all star game, or miss a postseason, they might actually be able to get something back.

  34. ephus

    The players are NEVER going to be in a position to time a strike to disrupt the ASG or the Playoffs. The CBA has a very strong no strike/no lockout provision that only allows a stike or lockout after the expiration of the deal or if either side opts out in the summer of 2017.

    The NBA learned the lesson from MLB, which allowed the season to start in 1994 without protection against a strike. The MLB teams tried to protect themselves by imposing a mid-season lockout, hoping they could get a deal out of the players in time to save the playoffs. It did not happen.

  35. JK47

    Oh, I think we’re 10 games better swapping Calderon for Felton.

    I don’t know about 10 games, but 4-5 wins is a realistic projection. I do think the Knicks can add several more wins by simply not playing Bargnani, and by playing a defensive scheme that makes sense. The Knicks were an incredibly poorly coached defensive team last year. Actually, for the last several years.

    The triangle offense has a bit of defense built into it; the guards are generally positioned to prevent transition buckets going the other way. Right now the Knicks do have some decent defensive personnel– Prigioni, Shumpert, Ellington, Aldrich and Dalembert are all good defenders, and Melo is not a total sieve. The problem areas will be Calderon, Stat, Bargnani, JR and THJ. I think JR and THJ are redundant players, and would like to see one of them moved for another defensive-oriented forward.

    The Knicks should be a top 10 offense, and I think the defense should be improved over last year when they ranked 24th.

  36. yellowboy90

    Why is Ivan Johnson playing in the summer league? He seems like a good front court player to add for depth. I think I would take him over Tyler the way he has approached his offseason. There is still time for Tyler to get in shape but for a fringe player to not put in work to get into the best shape of his life is concerning imho.

  37. lavor postell

    The Knicks should be a top 10 offense, and I think the defense should be improved over last year when they ranked 24th.

    I agree with this. If we can just be a league average defense that would be a major boost.

  38. Kahnzy

    If we can just be a league average defense that would be a major boost.

    If we can get league average guard play, that would be just as big. The lack of Raymond Felton, more than anything outside of Melo re-signing, will be the biggest improvement. Yes, even over no more Mike Woodson (I put him, or lack thereof, at a close 2nd)

  39. lavor postell

    If we can get league average guard play, that would be just as big. The lack of Raymond Felton, more than anything outside of Melo re-signing, will be the biggest improvement. Yes, even over no more Mike Woodson (I put him, or lack thereof, at a close 2nd)

    Yep the combination of no Felton and no Mike Woodson is worth about 10 wins probably.

  40. BigBlueAL

    Rockets not matching Parsons contract. Wow. Not exactly a great off-season for Morey.

  41. lavor postell

    Rockets not matching Parsons contract. Wow. Not exactly a great off-season for Morey.

    And I’m enjoying every minute of it.

  42. ephus

    I do not have words for how badly Morey screwed up the handling of Chandler Parsons:

    1. Could have renewed him for next year at 900K. The only downside was that Parsons would be an Unrestricted Free Agent after next season, if he was not resigned before then.

    2. If Parsons had been renewed, the Rockets would have had an extra $1.7 million in salary cap space. Could have offered Bosh 4 years/$89 million instead of 4/80. Who knows if that made the difference.

    3. Could have done a sign and trade with Dallas for Parsons. Had to know they were not going to match when they rejected Dallas. I guess they would rather he walk than take back what Dallas offered.

    4. If they had renewed Parsons, they could have offered him a 3 year/45 million extension so that he never made it to become an Unrestricted Free Agent.

    Morey is a really smart guy, so I am sure he has an explanation. I would love to read it.

  43. lavor postell

    4. If they had renewed Parsons, they could have offered him a 3 year/45 million extension so that he never made it to become an Unrestricted Free Agent.

    Wow I did not know this. If that’s true then he screwed up even worse than I originally thought.

  44. ephus

    I need to retract #4. They could not have signed Parsons to a big contract as part of an extension. Limited to 107.5% of prior contract because he was not on a rookie scale contract.

  45. Z-man

    Jowles said: “And Ariza to the Rockets. Morey can now resign Parsons. What a team they have. If Ariza stays anywhere near as productive as he was last year, that team is going to be a force.”

    Yeah, that Morey sure is smart.

    PS: last time Ariza played for the Rockets he posted a whopping .058 WS48. Funny how his two best stints were with the Kobe Lakers and the Wall Wizards.

  46. Brian Cronin

    PS: last time Ariza played for the Rockets he posted a whopping .058 WS48. Funny how his two best stints were with the Kobe Lakers and the Wall Wizards.

    Which is why he’s a great fit on the Harden Rockets.

    But yeah, while Ariza was a fine pick-up, it’s absurd for Houston to not match on Parsons. It’s almost as dumb as the Bulls and Knicks letting Asik and Lin go (Parsons is a tougher match because he’s making $20 million more over the same time period as Asik and Lin’s deals). To specifically make Parsons a free agent so that you can re-sign him and then not re-sign him? Just moronic.

    Overpays are not a problem for teams already over the cap. Just suck it up, owners, and pay the tax. I don’t care if $15 million is more than Parsons is worth – you hurt your team by not keeping him.

  47. Brian Cronin

    On that same point, this is why I don’t get “If Phil Jackson thinks it is a good idea, then it must be a good idea” approach, as Daryl Morey is clearly a great GM and he made two major screw-ups this offseason (making Parsons a free agent so that they could re-sign him and then not re-signing him and dealing Lin to make room to sign Bosh without making sure that Bosh was coming). So it’s not like you can just say “If Daryl Morey did it, it must be a good move.”

  48. ephus

    According to Mark Stein, the Mavs and Rockets are looking again at sign-and-trade. It would be legal (per Larry Coon) if the offer sheet was rescinded and the Rockets sign him to a contract at the same salary. Houston would get a trade exception.

    I guess Morey was going to match if Bosh came. When he didn’t, they scrambled.

  49. Brian Cronin

    Yeah, I agree that he was going to match if Bosh came, but that’s why I don’t get why not match still? They can’t trade him right away for a power forward, but eventually they’ll be able to do so. So just do that. Giving up talent and getting nothing back when you’re a good team is just dumb. But yes, good for Houston to at least try to get something at the last minute for him in a sign and trade. That’s better than nothing. Grunwald and Paxson should have done the same with Morey with Lin and Asik, respectively, as obviously Morey would have been open to sign and trades at the time.

  50. ephus

    There is a huge difference between Morey and Phil Jackson. Jackson is the most successful coach in NBA history, and it is not even close. If Phil Jackson has a thought on NBA talent evaluation or how to deal with the ego of an NBA star, I am 100% going to trust that he is right, even if his view is different from my gut reaction.

    Morey is a quant guy who has built a strong reputation for figuring out (1) the hidden crevices of the CBA and salary cap and (2) how to use advanced statistics to spot undervalued players. At the risk of hubris, I think that expertise is more accessible and more easily subject to second guessing.

  51. Donnie Walsh

    if I was an athlete, I wouldn’t give a fuck about fans. You can’t win

    Pretty much everybody on this site believed that Melo re-signing at the mega-max was the absolute worst scenario. (Even Ruruland!)

    Anthony went on record and publicly declared that money is less important than winning.

    Now that the worst scenario has happened, it’s only fair to let people vent about it.

  52. ephus

    But the “worst” scenario did not happn. Melo did give a small discount for 2015. Phil Jackson has been quoted today saying that Melo did what the team requested. While that may be lipstick on a pig, it is something.

    Also, I think there were a number of people who joined me in hoping that Melo would give a discount, but preferred that he stay over leaving for nothing.

  53. yellowboy90

    What do the Mavs gain by doing an S&T. Would Houston actually give up a 2nd rd pick or the right to one of their many Euro’s just to gain a TPE?

    Would Houston be interested in JR? They have nothing coming off the bench right now and I think he would welcome the way Houston does things offensively. A part of me thinks Jr will have a breackout year considering this is a potential contract year. He agent has to be telling him look around the league JR. If you have a great season next year you will get paid. Marvin freaking williams just go more money than you.

    Also, I keep bringing him up but the Stephenson market is really getting small. I personally wouldn’t mind if Phil gave up some assets Shump/Thjr if it meant they could move an Expiring to make room for Stephenson. I mean Lance is basically a better combination of both anyway. Earlier, I would have said that a big 2yr deal would have been a smart way to go but with the possible exploding cap that may come a 4 yr deal may be a smarter move. I do worry about him being back in Ny.

  54. Donnie Walsh

    I think we’re 10 games better swapping Calderon for Felton.

    I think this may, significantly, under-appreciate what Tyson Chandler brought to this team. I understand there is a backlash against him because of the pedestal that WoW guys place him on, but he is a really good basketball player who does things that nobody else on the roster is capable of doing (namely anything even remotely resembling defensive effort).

    And, worst of all, trading your starting center frees up about 30 minutes a game for the backup, who is, by default, Andrea Bargnani.

  55. ephus

    Dallas has to send something back to Houston. Probably $75,000 or the rights to some Euro stash. Houston could give up one of their many 2015 second round picks (they have four, including from the Knicks).

  56. Brian Cronin

    And, worst of all, trading your starting center frees up about 30 minutes a game for the backup, who is, by default, Andrea Bargnani.

    Not if Cole becomes the back-up!

  57. yellowboy90

    I really would like if the Knicks scoop Patric Young up. He has been working with Teddy Dupay on his jumper but I think he needs a look. He is playing for the Pelicans and I’m not sure if they will have room for him.

  58. JK47

    I think this may, significantly, under-appreciate what Tyson Chandler brought to this team.

    I like Tyson Chandler a lot, but Sam Dalembert is not a huge drop off a cliff, and Dalembert/Cole is a better tandem than Chandler/Bargs.

    If Bargs still gets lots of minutes, then yeah, the team is probably going to still suck.

  59. yellowboy90

    Casspi included in the N.O./Hou/Was. deal. Houston bench getting smaller and smaller. I guess Danials will likely come back into the fold now.

  60. The Prescient Cock Jowles

    Let’s not forget that Aldrich was available all season but Woodson and company played Bargnani because the East is big.

  61. 2FOR18

    - There is nothing untrue about my statement that LeBron has twice taken less money.

    - No one is saying that you have to take the minimum if you care about winning, and no one has said the LeBron cares nothing about money.

    Enough with the straw man arguments; they’re weak sauce.

  62. lavor postell

    Daryl Morey is great at recognizing value and assets, understanding the cap and it’s various mechanisms and exceptions. That being said he treats being the GM of a team as running some kind of fantasy basketball team. He always wants to make big-time moves and is always willing to dump a player in the chase for a flashier name. He’s a starfucker who loves making flashy moves, but isn’t smart enough to realize that at some point you have to build with what you have.

    If I was a player I wouldn’t want to sign in Houston because Morey views his players as assets and nothing more. He signed Asik to be a starting and then signed Dwight Howard to replace him. That’s a fine move and one every GM in the league would make, but then he placed a ridiculous price tag on Asik of two first round picks that he was never going to get and that’s a shitty thing to do for a guy who clearly didn’t want to stay on a team where he was going to be a back-up.

    There’s a lot of small things I could continue to detail that demonstrate to me that he’s a smart dude that always wants to prove he’s smarter than everybody else rather than just building the best team. Did they really need to get a 3rd max guy or would they have been better off using the cap space to get depth up and down the roster and finding a stretch 4 on a reasonable deal like McRoberts? Then they could have matched on Parsons and been a way better than they were last year when their bench was Lin and a bunch of bums.

  63. 2FOR18

    Speaking of Booker, I read a blurb somewhere about the Knicks considering him. I always liked him.

    I think Cole/Dalembert/Tyler will get all of the center minutes.

    As the team is now, I assume JR will get the back-up SF minutes, unless Early is deemed ready.

  64. swiftandabundant

    I for one am happy Melo has returned. Of course I would love him to take less, but when other dudes around the league are getting paid, it isn’t really reasonable to expect Melo to take some huge pay cut. And it sounds like he did take one in 2015 to help with cap space and the cap is gonna go up anyways. I also don’t think Dolan cares about paying the tax on going over if it means getting one more key piece to put us over the top. We have young assets now (Shump, Hardaway, Early, Larkin, etc) and we’ll have another first round pick this next year.

    We can argue if Melo is truly a superstar or not but the fact is he is perceived as a star around the league. The Bulls, Lakers, and Rockets were all very interested in his services. Keeping Melo makes it easier to attract Marc Gasol, Aldridge, Love, etc. We never know who might grow unhappy and want to force a trade either. Fact is, Amare getting hurt and not living up to his 100 million dollar contract is more to blame for the 2010 rebuild not being a success than The Melo trade.

    I think this team is being looked over a lot this yr bc of how bad last season was. Chandler was great when he got here but ever since he hurt his neck he really hasn’t been the same and his attitude last yr sucked. I think we’ll see a better overall year from JR and Shump, a better overall team attitude with Phil in charge. I think Dalembert and Calderon will be more important than we think and Cole’s gonna get more minutes. If STAT can stay healthy, even on a minutes restriction, and produce like he did the second half of last year all next year and Bargnani can give us anything (or get traded), we have a real shot to be a top 4 team. East is wide open. Lets be positive Knicks fans!

  65. 2FOR18

    The hate on Morey reminds of the Billy Beane hate, in that others are taking the praise they receive as if that praise was coming from the men themselves.

    He fucked up on Parsons, but if Bosh had signed that team would have been right there with anyone. He gambled wrong here, but I’d still take his roster over most and him as a GM over most.

    For Knicks fans to mock Morey is hilarious to me, after what we’ve endured here this century.

  66. lavor postell

    The hate on Morey reminds of the Billy Beane hate, in that others are taking the praise they receive as if that praise was coming from the men themselves.

    He fucked up on Parsons, but if Bosh had signed that team would have been right there with anyone. He gambled wrong here, but I’d still take his roster over most and him as a GM over most.

    For Knicks fans to mock Morey is hilarious to me, after what we’ve endured here this century.

    I’m sorry what has Morey accomplished so far? A couple of first round exits? The guy hasn’t won shit and comparing him to Billy Beane in a capped league is laughable.

    He’s a smart guy and I think he’s great at unearthing hidden talents for cheap which is why I thought even if they overpaid for Bosh, matched Parsons and went way over the cap they’d be fine because Morey would unearth rotation players on vet. min, mini-MLE and second rounders.

    He struck out on his plan though and just because the Knicks have sucked doesn’t mean we’re not allowed to criticize him (or take some satisfation). I think as a board few people on here have praised the Knicks for their management and have been criticial and continue to be of how they operate. Nobody on here is saying Morey is a bad GM because he doesn’t run a team like the Knicks do, but I for one think he still has a way to go before he gets lauded for being some all-time great GM.

    Stockpiling assets and maintaining cap flexibility is great and gives you a greater margin for error, but when cashing in those chips for the big payoffs is the most important thing. Landing Howard and Harden is a great start, but he was looking to put the finishing touches on a potential championship contender this summer and failed in a massive way. He deserves criticism of his decision making in this process.

  67. Frank O.

    I think this may, significantly, under-appreciate what Tyson Chandler brought to this team.

    Donnie Walsh:
    Felton was literally the worst starting point in basketball. Horrible.
    He was a terrible shooter and a step slow on defense.
    Tyson did not have a good year. Injuries, attitude and from time to time effort were problems. Dalembert is a good defender, probably isn’t much on offense. Cole actually played well. I’m not sure Bargs is going to get much playing time, mostly to rest Amare.
    But Calderon is a bonafide three point threat who is a pass first guy like Prigs. With scorers like Melo and Amare, and Jr, you need guys who can spread the floor and pass.
    Felton single handedly blew at least fives games himself.
    I think the word is out on Bargs.

  68. ephus

    I expect that Bargnani will get a lot of time during the exhibition season, with an eye towards trying to restore his reputation to make him tradable. I still pine for a Bargnani for Larry Sanders trade.

  69. Z-man

    “It’s almost as dumb as the Bulls and Knicks letting Asik and Lin go (Parsons is a tougher match because he’s making $20 million more over the same time period as Asik and Lin’s deals).”

    Brian, every time you say this, I am going to counter with the hindsight that matching that awful Lin deal would have been dumber than dumb. It was dumb for Morey to offer that money to Lin in the first place. He never played up to his salary at $8 million, and wound up costing Houston a first round pick just to dump the last year of his salary at $8 million, never mind that it would have been a $15 million albatross for us. The guy was immediately outplayed by another D-leaguer on a minimum salary! I guarantee you that Morey regretted signing Lin a month into that first season, and he certainly must regret it now. Not to mention that Lin was already on a major decline after 2 weeks of Linsanity, was injured, and was badly exposed by the Heat, the Nets, etc. On the other hand, Parsons is a much more proven commodity, a legit NBA starter at the 3; young, steadily improving, and a trade asset even at that price unless he gets hurt.

    Making the blanket statement that “giving up talent and getting nothing back is dumb” is contingent on the meaning of the word “talent.” Jeremy Lin’s “talent” makes him a marginal rotation player, in the category of Landry Fields, Steve Novak, and Ronnie Brewer. It’s “dumb” to compare these guys to Parsons or Asik, who actually are talented. And the proof is in the pudding.

    Obviously, the Knicks could have done better things in replacing Lin (D-leaguer vs. Felton) or using the cap space (Anybody vs. Bargnani.) But that has no bearing on the decision to match or not match Lin. It was a “ridiculous contract” just as Melo described and Morey was dumb for making it in the first place.

  70. ess-dog

    Looks like we “made a push” for Chris Andersen, who went back to Miami. Still, that is encouraging to think that we are looking to replace Bargnani’s awful minutes with something else.

  71. nicos

    Let’s not forget that Aldrich was available all season but Woodson and company played Bargnani because the East is big.

    Are you surprised no one made him an offer before the Knicks could sign him? Certainly there were a couple of teams who couldn’t afford to take up any of their cap space because they had bigger fish to fry but it doesn’t seem like he was really high on anyone’s wish list given how little it would have taken to sign him. I agree that resigning him was a no-brainer and prefer him starting over Dalembert (not a big fan of Sam) even if I’m not nearly as enamored of him as you WoW guys.

  72. Donnie Walsh

    Dalembert only played 20 mins a game this year, and 16 mins a game last year. He’s not gonna play 32 a night like Tyson.

  73. Z-man

    By the way, let’s also not forget that the great Morey had both Dragic and Lowry available to sign long term while they were still relatively cheap.

    Morey is a grandmaster at outsmarting himself, and this disastrous offseason is his masterpiece. He builds a team with great WoW bargains and superstars, only to lurch at and get rejected by the antichrists of the Berri cult, Melo and Bosh. Alas, maybe master coach McHale can squeeze some playoff wins out of this awkward bunch….not!

  74. Hubert

    There is nothing untrue about my statement that LeBron has twice taken less money.

    He took the max salary to play for Cleveland. Melo actually gave up more money to play for the Knicks. Hard to act like LeBron cares about money less than Melo.

  75. ephus

    I still blame Woodson for the departure of Jeremy Lin.

    When Lin visited Houston during the July Moritorium, he was tenatively offered a four year/29 million deal (5/5/9/10). Before the end of the Moritorium, while the rest of the Knicks FO was playing coy, Woodson opened his mouth and said the Knicks “absolutely” would match the Rockets. He said (no joke) “Jeremy Lin has always been a big part of what we’re trying to do as we move forward as a franchise.” http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/8158354/new-york-knicks-absolutely-match-offer-jeremy-lin-mike-woodson-says

    Morey – not being a fool – never made the offer that the Knicks would match and instead switched to the 3 year/25 million deal that the Knicks did not match.

    If Lin had been resigned to the original deal, the Knicks would have had a PG rotation of Lin/Kidd/Prigioni in 2012-13. Felton never gets here. Kidd probably does not get worn down to a nub during the regular season.

    It’s time for me to get over my anger at Mike Woodson, but I am not there yet.

  76. Brian Cronin

    I remember the “absolutely match” part, ephus, but I didn’t recall the now hilarious in hindsight (based on how much he liked to use that phrase) “big part of what we’re trying to do” quote. That’s awesome. Yep, Woodson was pretty darn incompetent.

  77. Brian Cronin

    Are you surprised no one made him an offer before the Knicks could sign him?

    It definitely surprises me a little bit, in the sense that all you had to do was give the guy $2 million and he’d be yours. So teams with cap room that know they weren’t going to spend it all should have been all over him, if only to trade him after spotlighting him. That said, I think it is fair to say that other teams all had their cap room spoken for, either with teams that were planning on making big moves or teams wanting to keep their cap space available to make room for other teams to trade them players for sweeteners (like Philly).

  78. Brian Cronin

    The hate on Morey reminds of the Billy Beane hate, in that others are taking the praise they receive as if that praise was coming from the men themselves.

    He fucked up on Parsons, but if Bosh had signed that team would have been right there with anyone. He gambled wrong here, but I’d still take his roster over most and him as a GM over most.

    For Knicks fans to mock Morey is hilarious to me, after what we’ve endured here this century.

    I think Morey is great. I’m just saying he made two major blunders this offseason. Not as a shot at Morey in general, but just as a commentary on how even really good GMs screw up sometimes. There isn’t a single NBA exec that I think has earned “Well, if they did it, I guess it was a good idea” status. Not even Pop.

  79. lavor postell

    By the way, let’s also not forget that the great Morey had both Dragic and Lowry available to sign long term while they were still relatively cheap.

    Morey is a grandmaster at outsmarting himself, and this disastrous offseason is his masterpiece. He builds a team with great WoW bargains and superstars, only to lurch at and get rejected by the antichrists of the Berri cult, Melo and Bosh. Alas, maybe master coach McHale can squeeze some playoff wins out of this awkward bunch….not!

    It’s funny about Dragic. Morey answered this question on Quora actually. He said that the reason they didn’t sign Dragic is that he wanted the 4th year of his deal as a player option and for Morey that is a big no no. His logic was that if he outperformed his contract he’d opt out and the Rockets would either have to pay up or lose him and of he opted in then he was probably not living up to his contract. Kind of an asinine logic if you ask me.

    I completely agree with you on Morey though. He’s too smart for his own good.

  80. Brian Cronin

    Trading Lowry got them Harden, though, so I don’t think losing Lowry should be considered a criticism.

  81. JK47

    The guy was immediately outplayed by another D-leaguer on a minimum salary!

    Lin had a .572 TS% last year while the Knicks went to war with a fat guy who couldn’t throw a basketball into the ocean if he was standing on the beach.

  82. lavor postell

    Lin had a .572 TS% last year while the Knicks went to war with a fat guy who couldn’t throw a basketball into the ocean if he was standing on the beach.

    Lmao.

    I’d much rather have overpaid Lin than having Ray fucking Felton on this team. Lin’s not a great defensive player, but he’s a hell of a lot better on that end than Felton and on offense Lin can actually make 3′s and finish at the rim.

  83. ephus

    Phil Jackson is the most successful coach in NBA history.

    His achievements did not rest on great in-game x-and-o strategy. In fact, he was famous for saying “you guys figure it out” during regular season time outs.

    BCT’s achievements rest on two pillars:

    1. Getting the most out of superstars. He won championships with Michael Jordan, something no other coach did. He won championships with Kobe, also something no other coach did. He managed the feud between Kobe and Shaquille O’Neal well enough to win three Rings (and make one more Finals). He is good at managing superstar egos.

    2. Implementing the Triangle offense, which creates ball movement, floor balance and great transition defense. He figured out which players worked in his system and shipped out the others. He is good at talent evaluation.

    That’s why Phil has carte blanche from me on player relations and talent evaluation.

  84. DRed

    Are you surprised no one made him an offer before the Knicks could sign him? Certainly there were a couple of teams who couldn’t afford to take up any of their cap space because they had bigger fish to fry but it doesn’t seem like he was really high on anyone’s wish list given how little it would have taken to sign him.

    No. All Cole does is kick ass and get ignored by NBA GMs. OKC certainly plays in more finals if they’d kept Cole and ditched Perkins

  85. ephus

    BAE was not enough to keep Augustin in Chicago.

    “@WojYahooNBA: Yahoo Sources: DJ Augustin, Detroit Pistons reach agreement on deal. http://yhoo.it/1qWRfV8”

    Chicago needs to have a backup PG that can play 18 mpg. No matter how good Mirotic and McBuckets are, they can’t ask Rose to play 35 mpg.

  86. Z-man

    I agree that Lin should have been locked up early, before he went shopping. Clearly the Knicks made no attempt to do that. On the other hand, Lin’s agent mad it clear that they were going to shop around anyway, so there’s no guarantee that Lin accepts an early good offer. But it was a mistake not making an offer.

    I also agree that the notion that Lin could be replaced by Felton was ludicrous (and I bought into it based on Felton’s decent play during the first half of the year with STAT before D’Antoni predictably ran him into the ground.

    However, that has nothing to do with the specific question of whether it was a good idea to match Lin’s poison pill contract offer once it was made. That is very debatable at the least, and in hindsight, his TS does not make up for his weaknesses (TO’s, defense.) That it would have prevented other mistakes is not a valid argument.

    Re Harden vs. Lowry, Harden is another WoW-superstar that plays no D (not that Parsons is Scottie Pippen either!) If Lowry could have been had for 4yrs, $32 million, he’s a better value than Harden at the max, no?

  87. Brian Cronin

    Chicago needs to have a backup PG that can play 18 mpg. No matter how good Mirotic and McBuckets are, they can’t ask Rose to play 35 mpg.

    They’re re-signing Hinrich, I believe.

  88. lavor postell

    They’re re-signing Hinrich, I believe.

    Yeah Thibs loves guys who can defend and are complete zeroes on offense. His devotion to Kirk Hinrich is bizarre.

  89. Brian Cronin

    They definitely are putting a lot of their eggs in the basket of Rose being healthy. Plus Gasol’s problems being primarily a system issue.

  90. GoNyGoNYGo

    @34 – It’s tough to find a thumper but I think it would be a coup if the Knicks somehow managed to get Kris Humphries. He’s not exciting, but for the I wonder if Odom put in a good word for him before he got jettisoned.

  91. danvt

    Melo’s note does not appear to be ghost written. Not even really edited well. Good job. Honesty is nice.

    I guess I’m happy because, losing Melo for nothing would have made NYK a thirty win team this year and not an interesting, let’s watch our ROY candidate thirty win team but a JR chuck fest 3o win team. I think we have playoff potential, so, that makes me happier than having no hope at all. A basketball season is a terrible thing to waste.

    GM’s are held to too high of a standard if that standard is an SAS type dynasty. Hey, we’d all love to root for a roster like POR, right? Well, last year they had 54 wins and lost in the 2nd round. hmm…the year before 33. We actually have three more wins over the last two years. Different conference, yes. SAS in the playoffs, yes. Better than us? Yes, but I think we’re not that far off from being in their stratosphere if not exactly an elite team. That’s enough for me. A championship requires luck beyond that. Like getting an Argentine two in the second round who turns into a HOF player.

    A GM can only put in a coach, a system, and play the hand that he is dealt. I think Phil was prudent not to fold or to exchange four cards. There obviously was not a S&T that made sense. I would have loved some blue chip prospects and a pick, but all CHI offered was Boozer. Click. Our cap looks good going forward. We have our first rounder next summer. We have one foundational player going forward, who helps keeps us competitive this year, and we can add another next summer as opposed to trying to get all the groceries from one FA class. If Phil believes Melo is a foundational player I’ll believe it too.

  92. dtrickey

    He’s a starfucker who loves making flashy moves, but isn’t smart enough to realize that at some point you have to build with what you have.

    That’s the name of a Bowie album right?

  93. JK47

    Morey is kind of going all Richie Tenenbaum on us this offseason. Aside from the Parsons/Bosh fiasco, there is also a kerfuffle developing with the Rockets’ 2014 draft pick Clint Capela, picked as a draft-and-stash. Problem is, the Rockets obviously did not adequately communicate the draft-and-stash plan with Capela, who expects to be in the NBA this season. The Rockets have to tender him a contract within the next few days or he becomes a UFA. They’ll probably just tender the contract and stick him at the end of the bench, but this did not go the way Morey planned.

  94. Donnie Walsh

    Melo’s note does not appear to be ghost written. Not even really edited well.

    Yeah, he has some tense-agreement issues.

  95. Farfa

    I’ll say this: I’m not all that happy about Melo’s contract (nor about his essay, which seems pedestrian and rushed at best, but I guess I’m easily swayed by some empty PR words), but I’m totally happy about the way this front-office is carrying itself.

    We no longer have the impression they’re bumbling and crumbling under Dolan’s edicts. Phil seems very, very confident he can build something good here, and that’s really reassuring. I probably was wrong in asking for miracles (Melo at 5yrs/100mln was a longshot, sadly), but I trust his calmness and, as ephus said a thousand times, his most winning coach ever vision. He managed MJ. He managed Kobe and Shaq. Let’s hope he does the same here. The results as of today are not very encouraging, but the process really, really seems to be.

    Bargnani has healed and gotten his strength back

    Lol, I guess. But listen: if we are confident that, under Phil’s guidance, Melo Almost Mega Max can be a boon for us (and startlingly, I’m convincing myself of that too. Such is the merciless grip of fandom), then 10 minutes a night of Bargs could be not bad. If instead it’s bad, let’s sing all together “I believe I can fly” and let’s watch him soar and crash his knees once again.

  96. Hubert

    We still don’t know much about ESPN’s real +/-, but either Calderon is that bad or it fails to capture how terrible a defender Felton is:

    “ESPN’s real plus-minus (RPM) is more skeptical, in large part because Calderon and Samuel Dalembert are much worse defenders than the departed Felton and Tyson Chandler. Using an average aging curve and last year’s RPM shows the Knicks as substantially worse than their disappointing 2013-14.”

  97. Loathing

    @104: Song by Nine Inch Nails (who oddly enough, teamed with Bowie on a song “I’m Afraid of Americans”)

  98. lavor postell

    @104: Song by Nine Inch Nails (who oddly enough, teamed with Bowie on a song “I’m Afraid of Americans”)

    Interesting. I had no idea. Hell of a coincidence.

  99. danvt

    “Bravo, Danvt!
    Exactly what I’ve been trying to say, expressed more coherently.”

    Wow!! Thanks Ephus. Just trying to synthesize what I learn here and you’re a big part of that. Congrats on your trial coverage getting picked up by CNBC.

    Go Knicks!

  100. Hubert

    The knicks also have a 3.4ishM TPE they can use.

    If this is true, I would really like us try to get Chris Copeland back. Indiana seems like a team that wants to cut payroll, and they probably only signed him because they viewed us as threat and they may not any more.

    I know we don’t plan on running the same offense, but let’s not forget (like our idiot coach did during the 2013 playoffs) how dominant this team was when it used Copeland at the 5 next to Melo. I know it was a small sample size, but holy shit was it impressive. If all we have is Dalembert and Aldrich, I don’t see why we can’t find some time for using Copeland at the 5 again. And for 2 years, $6 million, what’s the risk?

  101. Hubert

    It’s time for me to get over my anger at Mike Woodson, but I am not there yet.

    You’re not alone, as my post above indicates. So much stupid from one man it was amazing.

  102. Hubert

    He said that the reason they didn’t sign Dragic is that he wanted the 4th year of his deal as a player option and for Morey that is a big no no. His logic was that if he outperformed his contract he’d opt out and the Rockets would either have to pay up or lose him and of he opted in then he was probably not living up to his contract. Kind of an asinine logic if you ask me.

    Actually I agree with that logic. The final year opt out is completely skewed towards the player’s benefit and puts a team in an unfavorable position. All you have to do is look at our own situation: we gave one to Melo and Amar’e, and both worked out extremely poorly for us in two drastically different ways. We got the worst case scenario from Amar’e and we have a dead contract on our hands, we got the best case scenario from Melo and he leveraged it into forcing us to give him a bad contract. There is no way a player option can work out for a team unless the player does something foolish like Kirilenko did. If I were a GM I wouldn’t give one out, either. (EDIT: oh, and how did the player options work out for Miami?)

    Re: the Morey “hate”, I personally think he is a bit overrated as a GM but he is still a very good one. The only reason I’m thrilled nothing is working out for him this summer is because he took us to the woodshed in two trades and screwed us over with Jeremy Lin. He’s a Knicks villain, like Masai Ujiri, Reggie Miller, Paul Pierce, et al. I respect all of them, but I like seeing them fail.

  103. The Prescient Cock Jowles

    Player options provide no leverage for the GM. Morey’s reasoning is totally solid.

  104. Farfa

    Player options are my favorite tool to attract important free agents to Charlotte when I am particularly depressed and start NBA 2K14 on my PS3.

  105. knicksFan85

    Hello everybody. This is my first post, but I have been reading comments on this site for quite some time now. Happy to have Phil Jackson and Derek Fisher leading our team. Glad to have Melo resign with us–for whatever reason. Pro basketball is a business where the owners make so much more money and nobody calls them out as much. I like the direction and culture change taking place at 1 Penn Plaza. Go NY Knicks!!!!

  106. Crumple

    Fantastic Simmon’s piece on Melo over on Grantland.

    what a great basketball player he is. I’m glad to watch him and root for him.

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