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		<title>By: Frank O.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank O.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 16:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Welcome back, Iman Shumpert’s potential and endless jokes about how “Shumpert” sounds like a Hebraic pickled herring delicacy...&quot;

someone had to say it...? lol]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Welcome back, Iman Shumpert’s potential and endless jokes about how “Shumpert” sounds like a Hebraic pickled herring delicacy&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>someone had to say it&#8230;? lol</p>
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		<title>By: art vandelay</title>
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		<dc:creator>art vandelay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 18:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If Cp3 takes a little bit less than the full max....say $15 or $16 mil rather than the $17-$18M he will be eligible for, would they be able to use that mini-mid level of $2.5M/2 years to sign someone who is a step up from a vet&#039;s min-level player? I am not to clear on how this salary cap &quot;room&quot; exception works.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Cp3 takes a little bit less than the full max&#8230;.say $15 or $16 mil rather than the $17-$18M he will be eligible for, would they be able to use that mini-mid level of $2.5M/2 years to sign someone who is a step up from a vet&#8217;s min-level player? I am not to clear on how this salary cap &#8220;room&#8221; exception works.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 17:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Boston went with three stars but had a great supporting cast, Miami had a better supporting cast than we will have and a better big 3. To be able to sign Paul we would have to trade Shumpert and renounce Fields and Douglas and then prey that Paul takes a paycut. So it would literally be our big three and 12 minimum contracts. It would then take a couple of years to fill in with future picks and MLE&#039;s all the while Miami gets a more solid group around LeBron and Wade and Amare and Paul&#039;s knees take even more pounding.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boston went with three stars but had a great supporting cast, Miami had a better supporting cast than we will have and a better big 3. To be able to sign Paul we would have to trade Shumpert and renounce Fields and Douglas and then prey that Paul takes a paycut. So it would literally be our big three and 12 minimum contracts. It would then take a couple of years to fill in with future picks and MLE&#8217;s all the while Miami gets a more solid group around LeBron and Wade and Amare and Paul&#8217;s knees take even more pounding.</p>
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		<title>By: klownboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>klownboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 17:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[WHOO-HOO!!!  Glory!!!!

Now we can go out and acquire Chris Paul.  Here is my two cents on the NBA lockout:
http://theklowntimes.net/2011/11/28/to-the-nba-way-to-come-to-your-senses-fellas/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WHOO-HOO!!!  Glory!!!!</p>
<p>Now we can go out and acquire Chris Paul.  Here is my two cents on the NBA lockout:<br />
<a href="http://theklowntimes.net/2011/11/28/to-the-nba-way-to-come-to-your-senses-fellas/" rel="nofollow">http://theklowntimes.net/2011/11/28/to-the-nba-way-to-come-to-your-senses-fellas/</a></p>
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		<title>By: The Formerly-Congenial Cock Jowles, #1 Gentleman</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/lockout-over/#comment-347292</link>
		<dc:creator>The Formerly-Congenial Cock Jowles, #1 Gentleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 16:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Post suggestion:

A list of the likely candidates to be cut by each team, and the likely salary each player will receive (and from whom) once signed. All this with a prospectus of the Knicks&#039; possible moves (although I&#039;d be happy if they made no moves now, cut Amar&#039;e after the season, and picked up Paul and Howard at once; wishful thinking, I know).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Post suggestion:</p>
<p>A list of the likely candidates to be cut by each team, and the likely salary each player will receive (and from whom) once signed. All this with a prospectus of the Knicks&#8217; possible moves (although I&#8217;d be happy if they made no moves now, cut Amar&#8217;e after the season, and picked up Paul and Howard at once; wishful thinking, I know).</p>
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		<title>By: art vandelay</title>
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		<dc:creator>art vandelay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 16:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The 3-star model has clearly proven (so far, at least) to be a viable winning strategy....not that it is a necessary condition for winning (see dallas last season) but it is sufficient, definitely (miami made it to finals last season and boston won it all in &#039;08 and nearly won again in &#039;10). What reason do they have at this point to abandon the Cp3 pursuit? They cleared cap space for superstars and they already nabbed 2, even if they didn&#039;t wind up with LBJ. Now, if they had cleared all this cap space and not been able to land stars because of the stench hanging over the franchise from the Isiah era or whatever other reason, then I would certain say, abort! However, all signs point, as brian clearly mentioned above, to a mutual marriage between knicks and cp3 being consummated....at least we know it is possible under terms of new CBA. If they couldn&#039;t manage it under a hard cap or different new CBA, I would say let&#039;s throw money at d&#039;andre jordan or someon, but even by making some maneuvers to build the team this offseason, I don&#039;t think they are a chamnpionship contender anyway.

I am willing to sign a few cheap veterans, hope to win at least a round of the playoffs, and then go after Cp3 next summer, rather than wasting a chance for another superstar on a middling free agent, as this class is relatively weak. Remember that the &#039;09 class was likewise weak, and that torpedoed Detroit when they spent major money on middling talent (e.g. Ben Gordan, Charlie Villanueva)...and toronto spend a ton on Turkoglu and look how well that worked out for them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 3-star model has clearly proven (so far, at least) to be a viable winning strategy&#8230;.not that it is a necessary condition for winning (see dallas last season) but it is sufficient, definitely (miami made it to finals last season and boston won it all in &#8217;08 and nearly won again in &#8217;10). What reason do they have at this point to abandon the Cp3 pursuit? They cleared cap space for superstars and they already nabbed 2, even if they didn&#8217;t wind up with LBJ. Now, if they had cleared all this cap space and not been able to land stars because of the stench hanging over the franchise from the Isiah era or whatever other reason, then I would certain say, abort! However, all signs point, as brian clearly mentioned above, to a mutual marriage between knicks and cp3 being consummated&#8230;.at least we know it is possible under terms of new CBA. If they couldn&#8217;t manage it under a hard cap or different new CBA, I would say let&#8217;s throw money at d&#8217;andre jordan or someon, but even by making some maneuvers to build the team this offseason, I don&#8217;t think they are a chamnpionship contender anyway.</p>
<p>I am willing to sign a few cheap veterans, hope to win at least a round of the playoffs, and then go after Cp3 next summer, rather than wasting a chance for another superstar on a middling free agent, as this class is relatively weak. Remember that the &#8217;09 class was likewise weak, and that torpedoed Detroit when they spent major money on middling talent (e.g. Ben Gordan, Charlie Villanueva)&#8230;and toronto spend a ton on Turkoglu and look how well that worked out for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cronin (@Brian_Cronin)</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/lockout-over/#comment-347278</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Cronin (@Brian_Cronin)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 10:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s an interesting question - as you may or may not have noticed, the current deal kept the &quot;no team can spend more than $3 million (or was it $4 million) &lt;b&gt;total&lt;/b&gt; in trades &lt;b&gt;all year long&lt;/b&gt;.&quot; It used to be $3 million (or $4 million - I honestly forget) &lt;b&gt;each trade&lt;/b&gt;! 

So here&#039;s the question - what will this do to teams selling their draft picks? Will it make it no longer worthwhile to sell your picks because no one will spend the money? Or will it be a situation where the price stays the same but teams can only buy one? Or will the fact that all the teams are in the same boat lead to the price dropping on how much late first rounders will cost? After all, the monetary downside of late first rounders are only going to multiply in the future, as teams like the Lakers and Mavericks certainly won&#039;t want to add to their luxury tax bills by giving guaranteed salaries to rookies who might not even crack their rotation, right? So might those teams still be willing to deal, just for lesser return? Might the Knicks (who likely are okay paying pretty much any luxury tax they need) be an active player on the first round purchase market (after the 2012 offseason, of course, because they won&#039;t add salary until then)?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s an interesting question &#8211; as you may or may not have noticed, the current deal kept the &#8220;no team can spend more than $3 million (or was it $4 million) <b>total</b> in trades <b>all year long</b>.&#8221; It used to be $3 million (or $4 million &#8211; I honestly forget) <b>each trade</b>! </p>
<p>So here&#8217;s the question &#8211; what will this do to teams selling their draft picks? Will it make it no longer worthwhile to sell your picks because no one will spend the money? Or will it be a situation where the price stays the same but teams can only buy one? Or will the fact that all the teams are in the same boat lead to the price dropping on how much late first rounders will cost? After all, the monetary downside of late first rounders are only going to multiply in the future, as teams like the Lakers and Mavericks certainly won&#8217;t want to add to their luxury tax bills by giving guaranteed salaries to rookies who might not even crack their rotation, right? So might those teams still be willing to deal, just for lesser return? Might the Knicks (who likely are okay paying pretty much any luxury tax they need) be an active player on the first round purchase market (after the 2012 offseason, of course, because they won&#8217;t add salary until then)?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cronin (@Brian_Cronin)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Cronin (@Brian_Cronin)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 09:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;I love Chris Paul and would love having him as a Knick but why can’t we just act like every other team in the NBA and try to sign players that make us better now, build our young assets and not keep swinging for the fences. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Because the Melo trade only makes sense if it was a prerequisite for Paul joining the team. And you have to admit, Ben, that the way things have shaken out, it sure seems as though that is both what the Knicks &lt;b&gt;are&lt;/b&gt; planning to do and what Paul seems to want to do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I love Chris Paul and would love having him as a Knick but why can’t we just act like every other team in the NBA and try to sign players that make us better now, build our young assets and not keep swinging for the fences. </p></blockquote>
<p>Because the Melo trade only makes sense if it was a prerequisite for Paul joining the team. And you have to admit, Ben, that the way things have shaken out, it sure seems as though that is both what the Knicks <b>are</b> planning to do and what Paul seems to want to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 08:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love Chris Paul and would love having him as a Knick but why can&#039;t we just act like every other team in the NBA and try to sign players that make us better now, build our young assets and not keep swinging for the fences. We have a couple nice young guards in Douglas and Fields, a promising rookie guard in Shumpert and two of the best forwards in the NBA. Add a solid center and we have a very competitive team. How about we just try and build that team rather than tread water for another season while we chase another superstar. We&#039;ve been chasing superstars rather than focusing on building competitive teams for 4-5 years now.

We would be better with Paul/Amare/ Melo sure but with no homegrown talent it will not be the most rootable team and considering that our big three won&#039;t even be the best big three in our conference and will have no supporting cast makes me question if it&#039;s even ultimately a good move.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love Chris Paul and would love having him as a Knick but why can&#8217;t we just act like every other team in the NBA and try to sign players that make us better now, build our young assets and not keep swinging for the fences. We have a couple nice young guards in Douglas and Fields, a promising rookie guard in Shumpert and two of the best forwards in the NBA. Add a solid center and we have a very competitive team. How about we just try and build that team rather than tread water for another season while we chase another superstar. We&#8217;ve been chasing superstars rather than focusing on building competitive teams for 4-5 years now.</p>
<p>We would be better with Paul/Amare/ Melo sure but with no homegrown talent it will not be the most rootable team and considering that our big three won&#8217;t even be the best big three in our conference and will have no supporting cast makes me question if it&#8217;s even ultimately a good move.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cronin (@Brian_Cronin)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Cronin (@Brian_Cronin)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 07:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I believe av was saying the same thing, Robert (he was pointing out that they couldn&#039;t use the stretch waiver on Balkman, not that they couldn&#039;t use the amnesty on him).

By the way (and I mean this as a general thing, not in response to you specifically, Robert), if Dwight Howard had any inclination to being a Knick, sure, they obviously should go after him - dump Amar&#039;e right away. Howard is right up there with Lebron as the best player in the world to build a team around. But I don&#039;t think he&#039;s shown said inclination, which is why I&#039;m sticking with the &quot;Big Three&quot; that Melo, Amar&#039;e and CP3 sure do seem to want (and this CBA gives the Knicks a chance to be able to achieve). ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe av was saying the same thing, Robert (he was pointing out that they couldn&#8217;t use the stretch waiver on Balkman, not that they couldn&#8217;t use the amnesty on him).</p>
<p>By the way (and I mean this as a general thing, not in response to you specifically, Robert), if Dwight Howard had any inclination to being a Knick, sure, they obviously should go after him &#8211; dump Amar&#8217;e right away. Howard is right up there with Lebron as the best player in the world to build a team around. But I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;s shown said inclination, which is why I&#8217;m sticking with the &#8220;Big Three&#8221; that Melo, Amar&#8217;e and CP3 sure do seem to want (and this CBA gives the Knicks a chance to be able to achieve). </p>
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