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Friday, October 31, 2014

Knicks to Sign Jeffries?

Good day fellow Knick fans!

If you are a believer in the proverbial “gut check” win then last nights brickfest in Miami was for you. I suppose I am an agnostic on whether any one mid-season game really matters more than any other long term. But, the game demonstrated that the Knicks have the capacity to at least maintain a defensive focus for extended stretches. Certainly the Heat allowed the Knicks to hang around, following their blistering start with horrible shot selection and minimal non-Big 3 contributions. Still, one would have to be a real cynic to overlook the fact that the Knicks mostly contested shots and kept Miami off the boards. (Bill Flippin’ Walker banked in the big 3 at the halftime buzzer, but I’ll be darned if I didn’t see him down in a stance moving his feet on D. He pulled down 7 defensive boards, which were big as NY outrebounded Miami by 1. Dude had a +22!)

Isola is reporting that the recently bought out Jared Jeffries plans to sign with NY, assuming he clears waivers. ESPN also reported last night (on the ticker) that the recently bought out Troy Murphy may be a consideration. Any moves would of course require NY to clear roster space.

22 comments on “Knicks to Sign Jeffries?

  1. Nick C.

    with Carter on the squad Mason is redundant (among other things). I think I am in the minority in not wanting any part of Jefferies. Balkman can do what he does, rebounds, understands what he can’t do and plays accordingly. It seems like one half guarding Steve Nash several years ago has been the lasting impression of JJs time here. As far as I remember the Jefferies guarding PGs novelty got figured out or his luck ran out and after a few games the game threads were ridiculing the notion.
    As for Murphy I can’t get the barking like a dog story and his suckitude in NJ out of my head.

  2. Caleb

    I have a hard time believing Carter will outdefend Douglas most times, and he might be the worst offensive player in the league, but he might be worth keeping over Mason just in case we get Miami in the playoffs. You never know.

    But someone mentioned Brewer wasn’t on the bench last night – I would not be surprised if he gets a buyout, just to save a few bucks – he makes a lot more money than the others and if Jeffries and Balkman are ahead of him in the coach’s mind that’s all that matters – he’s not getting in a game.

    Troy Murphy would be a great signing – a guy who can shoot 3s without us having to go small. Brutal defense, but if we could do everything he wouldn’t be unemployed right now.

    Funny how people are talking about our great mix, bench of defensive specialists, etc.. unless Balkman is going to play a lot, our defense is still worse than it was before the trade. Last night was a weird, weird game.

  3. Kevin McElroy

    Awesome game last night boys and girls. More important, equally important, less important — whatever. It was a lot of fun. Billups is incredible.

    On Troy Murphy I heard its down to Miami and Boston. He’d be a fantastic signing for the Knicks but looking unlikely.

  4. Mike Kurylo

    Jared Jeffries – one of my least favorite players. Granted defensive players tend to be underrated by their stats, but Jeffries isn’t a great defender. And he’s a complete waste on offense. How’s that three point shot coming along again? (He’s hit 2 three pointers in 15 attempts since leaving New York).

    Obviously he’s one of those practice guys that coaches just love. (Supposedly Anthony Carter is as well).

  5. TDM

    I don’t understand the Knicks thinking with Jeffries. It would seem that there are better options out there for rebounding and blocked shots. Also, if the Knicks are looking to pick up NJ cast offs like Murph, why not give a 10-day deal to a guy like Sean Williams? He is foul-prone, but has been playing solid ball in the d-league.

    http://www.nba.com/dleague/playerfile/sean_williams/game_by_game_stats.html

    Also, who is the odd-man (men) out? Once Azu comes back, their will be a serious logjam at the 2. Fields, Azu, Walker, Rautins, Mason. I would guess Mason, but is Rautins really worth keeping around either?

  6. Caleb

    Azubuike is an expiring contract, no? Either the Knicks think he really is ready to go soon, and play well, or he’s getting released, right?

  7. TDM

    Azu and Mike D have both said that he should be back very soon, so I don’t think they’ll release him. Hard to say.

  8. Mike Kurylo

    TDM: I don’t understand the Knicks thinking with Jeffries.It would seem that there are better options out there for rebounding and blocked shots.Also, if the Knicks are looking to pick up NJ cast offs like Murph, why not give a 10-day deal to a guy like Sean Williams?He is foul-prone, but has been playing solid ball in the d-league.http://www.nba.com/dleague/playerfile/sean_williams/game_by_game_stats.htmlAlso, who is the odd-man (men) out?Once Azu comes back, their will be a serious logjam at the 2.Fields, Azu, Walker, Rautins, Mason.I would guess Mason, but is Rautins really worth keeping around either?  

    Or Nick Fazekas. Or Jermareo Davidson. Or Jeff Adrien. Oh wait Adrien was just picked up by GS.

  9. dmull

    Signing Jeffries would be a complete waste. I have no idea why they are even considering that option. If he even is a truly good defender he’s not nearly good enough to make a difference here.

    Murphy (or for that matter any of the other players noted here) would be so much better. Unless he really has nothing left in the tank, getting a big capable of further extending the defense as an efficient three-point shooter could only help an already prolific offense…and more importantly we could really use someone with rebounding prowess. Anyone offering a decent spot in the rotation of bigs should be the priority here…Jeffries is only that in height and as far as I’m concerned would be of little help.

  10. Ben R

    Azubuike, if healthy, is probably the best player on the Knicks bench and could go along way to helping some of our depth issues. I personally hope Azu not only comes back healthy this season and helps in the playoffs but is back next year. He is a good defender and a bench of: Douglas, Azu, Balkman, Sheldon Williams, Turiaf gives you an awful lot of defensive firepower.

  11. TDM

    KB – “Or Nick Fazekas. Or Jermareo Davidson. Or Jeff Adrien. Oh wait Adrien was just picked up by GS”

    Exactly.

    I keep forgetting about Fazekas, although he does seem like Murphy in some respects – more of a finesse, perimeter shooting big. Also, he apparently has a history of ankle injuries, which is why the Reno Bighorns waived him last December. But I like the idea of pulling some talent from the D-League in lieu of Jeffries.

  12. Caleb

    @10 if we got the Azubuike of 2 years ago, sure. But even if he is technically “healthy,” what can you really expect from him the next few months while he works himself into shape?

    Mind you, Mason and possibly others offer nothing at all right now, but if you don’t think Azu is healthy then I have no problem dropping him now.

    We could always re-sign him in the summer – Bird rights aren’t going to matter; no one is giving him a big contract after two years where he barely saw the floor.

    I’ll defer to the medical staff on this one..

  13. Kevin McElroy

    Re: Azu.

    Obviously gotta hope for best and expect worst but I will say that if we’re going to try this 3 superstar model we will need to find cheap value elsewhere to fill out the roster. If Azu plays a little this year and he’s willing to sign a cheap 1 year deal to re-establish his value, that could be a good example of that strategy.

  14. Brian Cronin

    Azubuike is an expiring contract, no? Either the Knicks think he really is ready to go soon, and play well, or he’s getting released, right?

    I would imagine the Knicks would be interested in bringing him back next season. He should be a RFA, right? So they would just need to give him a qualifying offer and they’ll likely get him for another single season (which fits their time frame perfectly).

  15. Caleb

    @14 That’s true, my point was just that coming off two years of not playing I don’t think there will be any kind of bidding war. “Restricted” won’t matter much.

    Wouldn’t hurt to keep him, just to be on the safe side – when we could cut loose other non-contributors. But I wouldn’t be shocked to see him go.

  16. Brian Cronin

    Undrafted doesn’t make you unrestricted. Contract length is all that matters once you get past the first round. Players on contracts three years or less are restricted. What’s Azu’s deal? Is this his fourth year or his third? If it is his fourth, he likely is unrestricted. If it is his third, he would be restricted (Matthews of the Jazz is an example of a guy who was undrafted but was still a restricted free agent).

  17. Brian Cronin

    Its his 5th yr and the end of his 2nd contract (this contract = 3 yrs).

    Then yeah, that should make him unrestricted. The undrafted thing is interesting, because I wasn’t sure about it myself until people were debating about Fields (whether he would be restricted or unrestricted) and I discovered that it is the length of your first contract that determines your status, not where you were drafted/not drafted. Three years or less and you are a restricted free agent (so Fields will be a restricted free agent when the Knicks trade him next season, which is important because that is a lot better trade value than an unrestricted free agent).

  18. swiftandabundant

    Jeffries will fit in nicely. Its not like last year. He’ll have a very specific job to do and won’t mind doing it. And he draws a lot of charges. Charges are so important. Look at last night versus the Heat. We drew a charge against Dwade in the 3rd that forced him to go to the bench for awhile. Its a turnover and a foul! The rest of this season is going to be awesome!

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  19. SeeWhyDee77

    ummm..so..we’re poised to drop Brewer and pick up JJ..how does that make sense? Now..I doubt that either will help up in the paint..but after losin out to the Bucks for Barron, I would think that D’Antoni would want more size. And if we’re waiving Brewer, then why not drop Mason or Carter as well and go hard after Murphy or bring Sean Williams in? The fact that Brewer is being bought out does tell me that maybe Azu’s finally ready..which negates losing Brewer and gives us more shooting and the same perimeter D. No problem with waiving Brewer and adding JJ’s versatility and IQ on defense..but i’m just sayin it can’t stop there. Miami clearly out-sized the hell out of us on sunday. Billups brilliance and Melo and Stat’s effort on D saved us..not 2 mention Melo bein the 1 guy they had no answer for in the 4th.

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