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		<title>By: Ted Nelson</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/knicks-sign-jonathan-bender/#comment-283094</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 00:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[TDM,

Part of Bender being a bust was his health. He was still on his way to being a disappointment for a #5 pick and possibly a bust, but looked like an NBA rotation guy (could debate how good or bad, something like with Chandler now).

&quot;Problem is that N8 would likely veto any trade to NoCal, but you never know.&quot;

GS is a total mess, but he&#039;d be close to home and maybe playing for Don Nelson would pump up his per game stats. I don&#039;t really see GS trading Curry or Randolph for Nate, though, they seem really high on both of them. They probably look for some salary room before trading their promising young players for undersized 3rd guards currently benched by their team. 

SeeWhyDee77,

I don&#039;t agree with your takes on either Walsh or Isiah. Bottom line is that one has consistently built winners and one has consistently built losers. Isiah was kept in the front office for a while when Walsh came in, and apparently it didn&#039;t work.

A &quot;genius&quot; Walsh move you left off your list was trading Jalen Rose for a package that included Artest and Brad Miller right before Rose&#039;s career fell off and he became one of the more overpaid players in the NBA (and then, of course, became a Knick). Drafting Danilo and Douglas both look like good moves, as well. 

Isiah&#039;s picks never added up to a good team. I disagree with your assessment that he did well in NY compared to the talent available. He did a solid job drafting, but the list of player he passed up and who were drafted soon after his choices is a lot more impressive than the last of players he took. 
I also really disagree that his only mistake was Marbury, especially not that Marbury wasn&#039;t Iverson. Crawford and Randolph have never been the 2nd or 3rd best player on a good team. Curry was intriguing, but the Bulls had no leverage and no other GM in the NBA seemed interested. He was always a one trick pony. 

Bender&#039;s 28, if his knees are healthy I don&#039;t see why he can&#039;t play the wing. D&#039;Antoni plays a wing at the 4 anyway, so that might be where he&#039;ll be. He was a solid outside shooter in the NBA, but a poor rebounder. Who knows what he might have worked on or what his game is like now, though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TDM,</p>
<p>Part of Bender being a bust was his health. He was still on his way to being a disappointment for a #5 pick and possibly a bust, but looked like an NBA rotation guy (could debate how good or bad, something like with Chandler now).</p>
<p>&#8220;Problem is that N8 would likely veto any trade to NoCal, but you never know.&#8221;</p>
<p>GS is a total mess, but he&#8217;d be close to home and maybe playing for Don Nelson would pump up his per game stats. I don&#8217;t really see GS trading Curry or Randolph for Nate, though, they seem really high on both of them. They probably look for some salary room before trading their promising young players for undersized 3rd guards currently benched by their team. </p>
<p>SeeWhyDee77,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t agree with your takes on either Walsh or Isiah. Bottom line is that one has consistently built winners and one has consistently built losers. Isiah was kept in the front office for a while when Walsh came in, and apparently it didn&#8217;t work.</p>
<p>A &#8220;genius&#8221; Walsh move you left off your list was trading Jalen Rose for a package that included Artest and Brad Miller right before Rose&#8217;s career fell off and he became one of the more overpaid players in the NBA (and then, of course, became a Knick). Drafting Danilo and Douglas both look like good moves, as well. </p>
<p>Isiah&#8217;s picks never added up to a good team. I disagree with your assessment that he did well in NY compared to the talent available. He did a solid job drafting, but the list of player he passed up and who were drafted soon after his choices is a lot more impressive than the last of players he took.<br />
I also really disagree that his only mistake was Marbury, especially not that Marbury wasn&#8217;t Iverson. Crawford and Randolph have never been the 2nd or 3rd best player on a good team. Curry was intriguing, but the Bulls had no leverage and no other GM in the NBA seemed interested. He was always a one trick pony. </p>
<p>Bender&#8217;s 28, if his knees are healthy I don&#8217;t see why he can&#8217;t play the wing. D&#8217;Antoni plays a wing at the 4 anyway, so that might be where he&#8217;ll be. He was a solid outside shooter in the NBA, but a poor rebounder. Who knows what he might have worked on or what his game is like now, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Z-man</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/knicks-sign-jonathan-bender/#comment-282980</link>
		<dc:creator>Z-man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 23:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agreed, d-mar, Charlotte is to us kinda what we are to Phoenix. Jackson and Wallace are tough to match up with.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed, d-mar, Charlotte is to us kinda what we are to Phoenix. Jackson and Wallace are tough to match up with.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cronin</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/knicks-sign-jonathan-bender/#comment-282979</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Cronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 23:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rafer Alston was the starting point guard for the Eastern Conference Champs last year, so anything is possible.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rafer Alston was the starting point guard for the Eastern Conference Champs last year, so anything is possible.</p>
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		<title>By: jon abbey</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/knicks-sign-jonathan-bender/#comment-282978</link>
		<dc:creator>jon abbey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love watching Monta Ellis on GS, but he&#039;s never going to be part of a championship contender.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love watching Monta Ellis on GS, but he&#8217;s never going to be part of a championship contender.</p>
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		<title>By: TDM</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/knicks-sign-jonathan-bender/#comment-282977</link>
		<dc:creator>TDM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anthony Randolph and Stephen Curry are now on the block according to the Contra Costa Times - along with every other Warrior (including Monta Ellis, in case Jon Abbey is reading).

http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2009/12/15/nobody-on-warriors-untouchable/

Problem is that N8 would likely veto any trade to NoCal, but you never know.  That said, I&#039;d love to see A Randolph as a Knick.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anthony Randolph and Stephen Curry are now on the block according to the Contra Costa Times &#8211; along with every other Warrior (including Monta Ellis, in case Jon Abbey is reading).</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2009/12/15/nobody-on-warriors-untouchable/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ibabuzz.com/warriors/2009/12/15/nobody-on-warriors-untouchable/</a></p>
<p>Problem is that N8 would likely veto any trade to NoCal, but you never know.  That said, I&#8217;d love to see A Randolph as a Knick.</p>
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		<title>By: d-mar</title>
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		<dc:creator>d-mar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sandy - I saw that post, and it does summarize well the occasional &quot;tease&quot; that the Knicks have put us through in recent seasons. The one difference I see this year is that they have found a way to close out games, which was a big problem last year and the year before. I think the NO game was a big step forward, finishing on an 18-0 run.

However, we all know the Knicks&#039; continued success is tenuous as they depend on the 3 ball as much as any team in the NBA. Good teams with superior talent win games when they don&#039;t play particularly well, this will rarely happen for the Knicks.

(Tonight&#039;s game worries me, there are 2 Knick killers - Stephen Jackson and Gerald Wallace - on the same team. Jackson seems to salivate when he sees the orange and blue.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sandy &#8211; I saw that post, and it does summarize well the occasional &#8220;tease&#8221; that the Knicks have put us through in recent seasons. The one difference I see this year is that they have found a way to close out games, which was a big problem last year and the year before. I think the NO game was a big step forward, finishing on an 18-0 run.</p>
<p>However, we all know the Knicks&#8217; continued success is tenuous as they depend on the 3 ball as much as any team in the NBA. Good teams with superior talent win games when they don&#8217;t play particularly well, this will rarely happen for the Knicks.</p>
<p>(Tonight&#8217;s game worries me, there are 2 Knick killers &#8211; Stephen Jackson and Gerald Wallace &#8211; on the same team. Jackson seems to salivate when he sees the orange and blue.)</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/knicks-sign-jonathan-bender/#comment-282975</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know if you guys have read this, but in this short article Howard Beck most accurately sums up my opinion and feelings about our win streak and soft upcoming schedule. 

http://offthedribble.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/12/15/knicks-light-schedule-may-provide-false-hope/

This is as close to my gut feeling on this as possible without getting into numbers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if you guys have read this, but in this short article Howard Beck most accurately sums up my opinion and feelings about our win streak and soft upcoming schedule. </p>
<p><a href="http://offthedribble.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/12/15/knicks-light-schedule-may-provide-false-hope/" rel="nofollow">http://offthedribble.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/12/15/knicks-light-schedule-may-provide-false-hope/</a></p>
<p>This is as close to my gut feeling on this as possible without getting into numbers.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 20:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Thomas! Good to know that I wasn’t nuts!

Your memory is fine, now your sanity is question for another time. :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Thomas! Good to know that I wasn’t nuts!</p>
<p>Your memory is fine, now your sanity is question for another time. :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cronin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Cronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;That did I happen. It was 1/12/96 Knicks @ Celtics&lt;/blockquote&gt; Thanks, Thomas! Good to know that I wasn&#039;t nuts!

And yeah, looking at his game splits before that game, Barros had made a three in 89 straight games up until that point! 89!!! Wow.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>That did I happen. It was 1/12/96 Knicks @ Celtics</p></blockquote>
<p> Thanks, Thomas! Good to know that I wasn&#8217;t nuts!</p>
<p>And yeah, looking at his game splits before that game, Barros had made a three in 89 straight games up until that point! 89!!! Wow.</p>
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		<title>By: taggart4800</title>
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		<dc:creator>taggart4800</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 18:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps Walsh is taking a leaf out of Girardi&#039;s book. Only he is opening up a shelter for the re-habilitation of once promising ball players. Providing gym facilities and the comfort of being wanted. Curry, Hughes, Bender. He is even reaching out to the International community with the admission of Darko Milicic a young centre told by everyone he was going to rule the NBA only to have his dreams shattered by his own ineptitude.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps Walsh is taking a leaf out of Girardi&#8217;s book. Only he is opening up a shelter for the re-habilitation of once promising ball players. Providing gym facilities and the comfort of being wanted. Curry, Hughes, Bender. He is even reaching out to the International community with the admission of Darko Milicic a young centre told by everyone he was going to rule the NBA only to have his dreams shattered by his own ineptitude.</p>
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