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		<title>By: Cwod</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/knicks-need-to-address-home-woes/#comment-38023</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 23:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Isiah, not Layden, picked up Tim Thomas, acquiring him for Van Horn. Nazr went to the Knicks in that deal, too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isiah, not Layden, picked up Tim Thomas, acquiring him for Van Horn. Nazr went to the Knicks in that deal, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Knicknack</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/knicks-need-to-address-home-woes/#comment-38002</link>
		<dc:creator>Knicknack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 21:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[GFreeze, I&#039;ve also seen JJ play here in the DC metro market and I saw him give more to the Wizards than you evidently did. But, what I did see was JJ shut LBJ for a entire half. When thay took him out of the game LBJ went nuts and put up 20 in the 2nd half.

I agree JJ is not the answer alone, but he&#039;s a good start. If you&#039;ve seen JJ play you know he&#039;s also a off the ball defender like Marcus Camby was. And Camby was our center, but couldn&#039;t stop anyone one on one. 

With JJ in the line up we become very athletic and defensively stronger. I mentioned Camby because JJ and Camby are similar. They score by being active and aggressive on the board. Camby is capable of putting up bigger numbers, but JJ can ignite the fast break and guard atleast 3 positions. I&#039;ve looked and looked butI don&#039;t anyone on the Knicks able to do that.

We&#039;ll see what he&#039;s capable of when he plays next week. I think once he get&#039;s his legs under him he will make the Knick a more dangerous team. And this team was put togther with what was available under the circumstances. 

Laden left the org. with the likes of Howard Eisley, Shandon Anderson, traded Camby for McDyess, Tim Thomas and that group of overpaid underacheivers. No one believed that they could be traded for anyone of value. We may not be happy with the trade of overpaid player today, but when it was done Zeke was a genuis. Do I like all of his decision ofcourse not, but with what he had to work with, we upgraded at every position. I don&#039;t think all of the players assembled can play togther and more trades have to be made, I think we have done well.

And until we get that &quot;night-after-night zero head-trip all-star&quot;, which I don&#039;t want to trade for, he should be developed this is the best as it get&#039;s.

Ok Kb know slam me for continuing the make reference to the Layden era.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GFreeze, I&#8217;ve also seen JJ play here in the DC metro market and I saw him give more to the Wizards than you evidently did. But, what I did see was JJ shut LBJ for a entire half. When thay took him out of the game LBJ went nuts and put up 20 in the 2nd half.</p>
<p>I agree JJ is not the answer alone, but he&#8217;s a good start. If you&#8217;ve seen JJ play you know he&#8217;s also a off the ball defender like Marcus Camby was. And Camby was our center, but couldn&#8217;t stop anyone one on one. </p>
<p>With JJ in the line up we become very athletic and defensively stronger. I mentioned Camby because JJ and Camby are similar. They score by being active and aggressive on the board. Camby is capable of putting up bigger numbers, but JJ can ignite the fast break and guard atleast 3 positions. I&#8217;ve looked and looked butI don&#8217;t anyone on the Knicks able to do that.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll see what he&#8217;s capable of when he plays next week. I think once he get&#8217;s his legs under him he will make the Knick a more dangerous team. And this team was put togther with what was available under the circumstances. </p>
<p>Laden left the org. with the likes of Howard Eisley, Shandon Anderson, traded Camby for McDyess, Tim Thomas and that group of overpaid underacheivers. No one believed that they could be traded for anyone of value. We may not be happy with the trade of overpaid player today, but when it was done Zeke was a genuis. Do I like all of his decision ofcourse not, but with what he had to work with, we upgraded at every position. I don&#8217;t think all of the players assembled can play togther and more trades have to be made, I think we have done well.</p>
<p>And until we get that &#8220;night-after-night zero head-trip all-star&#8221;, which I don&#8217;t want to trade for, he should be developed this is the best as it get&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Ok Kb know slam me for continuing the make reference to the Layden era.</p>
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		<title>By: Gfreeze</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/knicks-need-to-address-home-woes/#comment-37633</link>
		<dc:creator>Gfreeze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 15:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t put too much hope in Jeffries. Don&#039;t get me wrong, I like him. He&#039;ll give you speed, length and effort on the perimeter - a nice weapon against hot jump shooters. But no defense whatsoever in the middle where it is desperately needed (with the exception of an occasional block on the opponent&#039;s fast break). And wait till you see him try to gather his limbs together to co-ordinate a shot. Watching him try to hoist a jumper in the lane is like watching the Greatest American Hero trying to fly. B-ball fans here in D.C. I&#039;ve talked to think the problem with the Knicks is that there are too many wanna-be, former or just-shy-of being, stars. They&#039;d trade Francis, Curry and Marlbury for a single, dependable, night-after-night zero head-trip all-star. No team goes far without at least two, and New York hasn&#039;t had one since Allan Houston in his pre-injury days. Speaking of head trips, dump Isiaah, too. He bet everything to put together a roster it will take years to undo, and lost. He has done nothing but whine, complain, point fingers, act and speak in ways unbecoming of a real leader. The New York tradition is about pride, toughness and effort... who on the current roster exemplifies that anymore? All this talk about players needing confidence and the support of the home crowd? Knicks players play in the greatest city and undisputed b-ball city of the world for millions of dollars. They should be proud and put out a playoff-series effort every night or board a train for Memphis or Toronto.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t put too much hope in Jeffries. Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I like him. He&#8217;ll give you speed, length and effort on the perimeter &#8211; a nice weapon against hot jump shooters. But no defense whatsoever in the middle where it is desperately needed (with the exception of an occasional block on the opponent&#8217;s fast break). And wait till you see him try to gather his limbs together to co-ordinate a shot. Watching him try to hoist a jumper in the lane is like watching the Greatest American Hero trying to fly. B-ball fans here in D.C. I&#8217;ve talked to think the problem with the Knicks is that there are too many wanna-be, former or just-shy-of being, stars. They&#8217;d trade Francis, Curry and Marlbury for a single, dependable, night-after-night zero head-trip all-star. No team goes far without at least two, and New York hasn&#8217;t had one since Allan Houston in his pre-injury days. Speaking of head trips, dump Isiaah, too. He bet everything to put together a roster it will take years to undo, and lost. He has done nothing but whine, complain, point fingers, act and speak in ways unbecoming of a real leader. The New York tradition is about pride, toughness and effort&#8230; who on the current roster exemplifies that anymore? All this talk about players needing confidence and the support of the home crowd? Knicks players play in the greatest city and undisputed b-ball city of the world for millions of dollars. They should be proud and put out a playoff-series effort every night or board a train for Memphis or Toronto.</p>
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		<title>By: KnickerBlogger</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/knicks-need-to-address-home-woes/#comment-37631</link>
		<dc:creator>KnickerBlogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 14:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[PrezIke - I would agree that Dolan is certainly part of the problem if for nothingless than allowing Isiah to take on all these long term contracts. HOWEVER I think that&#039;s a far cry from saying that this current roster is the fault of the previous GM (Layden).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PrezIke &#8211; I would agree that Dolan is certainly part of the problem if for nothingless than allowing Isiah to take on all these long term contracts. HOWEVER I think that&#8217;s a far cry from saying that this current roster is the fault of the previous GM (Layden).</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/knicks-need-to-address-home-woes/#comment-37449</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 23:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s a piece from Marc Berman...

&lt;blockquote&gt;Jeff Van Gundy put Thomas in his place two weeks ago when he said he liked when the fans booed early because it motivated the team and made his job easier.

Plus, there is no other arena louder than the Garden when the Knicks are staging a comeback ? this season or any season. If the Knicks cut the deficit from 20 to 10, it feels like a playoff game. And that?s not the case in most arenas.

Because of the competition, the Knicks can run the table on this homestand and get to .500. Of course that won?t happen and when they go a mediocre 3-3, Thomas will surely find some other excuse as to why. Jared Jeffries should be back on this homestand, so I can already hear Isiah talk about the adjustment period needed.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

12/2/06
nypost.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a piece from Marc Berman&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>Jeff Van Gundy put Thomas in his place two weeks ago when he said he liked when the fans booed early because it motivated the team and made his job easier.</p>
<p>Plus, there is no other arena louder than the Garden when the Knicks are staging a comeback ? this season or any season. If the Knicks cut the deficit from 20 to 10, it feels like a playoff game. And that?s not the case in most arenas.</p>
<p>Because of the competition, the Knicks can run the table on this homestand and get to .500. Of course that won?t happen and when they go a mediocre 3-3, Thomas will surely find some other excuse as to why. Jared Jeffries should be back on this homestand, so I can already hear Isiah talk about the adjustment period needed.
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<p>12/2/06<br />
nypost.com</p>
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		<title>By: DMull</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/knicks-need-to-address-home-woes/#comment-37443</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 22:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[PrezIke...On Isiah/Dolan. I think most would agree (myself included) with you that Dolan is in fact the bigger problem. But I don&#039;t see how that changes what Isiah has done. Whatever the plan was that Isiah sold Dolan on (obviously trading, draft picks, not worrying about the cap, etc) has clearly not worked. Yes, he got us to the playoffs by trading for Steph. And it was one of the most lopsided, embarassing playoff series I have ever had to watch (interestingly that team had the same problem this oen does - no interior defense whatsoever) - against the local New Jersey Nets to make it worse (Now believe me, I was happy as could be just to make the playoffs that year, but let&#039;s not mistake it for more than it was). And since? We&#039;ve been a joke. An absolute joke. So whatever the Isiah&#039;s &quot;plan&quot; was, it has failed miserably.

But yes, Amen to the problem being bigger than Isiah, and Amen to it starting with Dolan. But sitting right next to Dolan on the list of people to blame should be Isiah.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PrezIke&#8230;On Isiah/Dolan. I think most would agree (myself included) with you that Dolan is in fact the bigger problem. But I don&#8217;t see how that changes what Isiah has done. Whatever the plan was that Isiah sold Dolan on (obviously trading, draft picks, not worrying about the cap, etc) has clearly not worked. Yes, he got us to the playoffs by trading for Steph. And it was one of the most lopsided, embarassing playoff series I have ever had to watch (interestingly that team had the same problem this oen does &#8211; no interior defense whatsoever) &#8211; against the local New Jersey Nets to make it worse (Now believe me, I was happy as could be just to make the playoffs that year, but let&#8217;s not mistake it for more than it was). And since? We&#8217;ve been a joke. An absolute joke. So whatever the Isiah&#8217;s &#8220;plan&#8221; was, it has failed miserably.</p>
<p>But yes, Amen to the problem being bigger than Isiah, and Amen to it starting with Dolan. But sitting right next to Dolan on the list of people to blame should be Isiah.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/knicks-need-to-address-home-woes/#comment-37430</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 21:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://youtube.com/watch?v=VV565xM4t_Q

Enough said.]]></description>
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<p>Enough said.</p>
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		<title>By: PrezIke</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/knicks-need-to-address-home-woes/#comment-37411</link>
		<dc:creator>PrezIke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 20:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s one thing to make excuses, it&#039;s another thing to come up with a possible hypothesis for why there is such a discrepency between the home and road records for the Knicks at this point. An explanation does not have to be an excuse. We may not like the idea that the Knicks might feel more tentative at home, but it may very well be part of the problem, and it doesn&#039;t necessarily have to be construed as purely a knock on fans at MSG either.

I think HBez&#039;s comment on nervousness based on experience is quite valid. There is plenty of psycholigical research to suggest that this occurrs. The problem here is that it can&#039;t be measured, or it would at least be VERY difficult to do so, and reasons to question the value of such information (like from say a survey of Knick players). 

The point HBez made about how NOTHING may be able to improve this confidence level, if the team does not suddely start winning, which may also be being interfered with by their own possible psycholigical problems as a team developed over the past few years, that many players may need to be off the team, especially the usual suspects like Isiah, Marbury &amp; Francis (maybe) before we see changes.

Then the argument for more easily observed problems on the court like the poor team defensive play from many players who the Knicks are relying upon to win games (Curry, Frye, Marbury, Crawford, Francis) causes even more problems, and then add in the lack of focus on the game plan where we see most of our guards rely one on one moves out of sync with the offense, or Curry seem to just flip the ball at the rim (although his FG % is still high and he&#039;s since played better). How can we not, as Knick fans, be going crazy trying to figure out what the heck is going on.

Hence the other connection to not just Layden, but Dolan and his policies. Knickerblogger, I find your blog to be a very interesting read and respect your insight, but I think that we cannot ignore the long term historical factors that have resulted in the current team. Sure, no players remain from Layden&#039;s regieme, yet we need to ask the question, &quot;Why was Isiah hired and what was the mandate from Dolan, regarding Isiah&#039;s acceptance of the job as GM/Team President?&quot; Isiah is to blame as well for the roster since he made it, yet why did we not &quot;blow it up&quot; or wait for the &quot;dreck&#039;s&quot; contracts to just expire? Is that coming from a Dolan mandate to win and get playoff games at MSG and other forms of financial benefit that come with that? Isiah might have sold Dolan on remaking the team through trades and not having to get under the cap (although I don&#039;t know if this is the case), but if this were the case then maybe Dolan was a little too eager to accept this as plausible. In fairness, some of the teams who had used the strategy of getting under the cap did not get the desired results at that time or for years (Bulls, Orlando) so maybe Dolan and Isiah weren&#039;t wrong at the time either, as much as I cringe to say that.

Isiah is certainly responsible for the roster, but not without the consent of Dolan who I believe has been the bigger problem as may have been Checketts and his trade of Ewing which started the Knicks downward spiral into cap hell, and possibly even Van Gundy for jumping ship after the first month (as some would argue). This problem is bigger than just Isiah, and history can demonstrate that this has been in development for years before Isiah showed up. If the Knicks had a different owner maybe things would be different. They don&#039;t, so here we are, sadly enough.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s one thing to make excuses, it&#8217;s another thing to come up with a possible hypothesis for why there is such a discrepency between the home and road records for the Knicks at this point. An explanation does not have to be an excuse. We may not like the idea that the Knicks might feel more tentative at home, but it may very well be part of the problem, and it doesn&#8217;t necessarily have to be construed as purely a knock on fans at MSG either.</p>
<p>I think HBez&#8217;s comment on nervousness based on experience is quite valid. There is plenty of psycholigical research to suggest that this occurrs. The problem here is that it can&#8217;t be measured, or it would at least be VERY difficult to do so, and reasons to question the value of such information (like from say a survey of Knick players). </p>
<p>The point HBez made about how NOTHING may be able to improve this confidence level, if the team does not suddely start winning, which may also be being interfered with by their own possible psycholigical problems as a team developed over the past few years, that many players may need to be off the team, especially the usual suspects like Isiah, Marbury &amp; Francis (maybe) before we see changes.</p>
<p>Then the argument for more easily observed problems on the court like the poor team defensive play from many players who the Knicks are relying upon to win games (Curry, Frye, Marbury, Crawford, Francis) causes even more problems, and then add in the lack of focus on the game plan where we see most of our guards rely one on one moves out of sync with the offense, or Curry seem to just flip the ball at the rim (although his FG % is still high and he&#8217;s since played better). How can we not, as Knick fans, be going crazy trying to figure out what the heck is going on.</p>
<p>Hence the other connection to not just Layden, but Dolan and his policies. Knickerblogger, I find your blog to be a very interesting read and respect your insight, but I think that we cannot ignore the long term historical factors that have resulted in the current team. Sure, no players remain from Layden&#8217;s regieme, yet we need to ask the question, &#8220;Why was Isiah hired and what was the mandate from Dolan, regarding Isiah&#8217;s acceptance of the job as GM/Team President?&#8221; Isiah is to blame as well for the roster since he made it, yet why did we not &#8220;blow it up&#8221; or wait for the &#8220;dreck&#8217;s&#8221; contracts to just expire? Is that coming from a Dolan mandate to win and get playoff games at MSG and other forms of financial benefit that come with that? Isiah might have sold Dolan on remaking the team through trades and not having to get under the cap (although I don&#8217;t know if this is the case), but if this were the case then maybe Dolan was a little too eager to accept this as plausible. In fairness, some of the teams who had used the strategy of getting under the cap did not get the desired results at that time or for years (Bulls, Orlando) so maybe Dolan and Isiah weren&#8217;t wrong at the time either, as much as I cringe to say that.</p>
<p>Isiah is certainly responsible for the roster, but not without the consent of Dolan who I believe has been the bigger problem as may have been Checketts and his trade of Ewing which started the Knicks downward spiral into cap hell, and possibly even Van Gundy for jumping ship after the first month (as some would argue). This problem is bigger than just Isiah, and history can demonstrate that this has been in development for years before Isiah showed up. If the Knicks had a different owner maybe things would be different. They don&#8217;t, so here we are, sadly enough.</p>
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		<title>By: DMull</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/knicks-need-to-address-home-woes/#comment-37387</link>
		<dc:creator>DMull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 17:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you RKade. Exactly right and exactly what I was talking about. But I guess that&#039;s what fans of struggling teams do - we grasp for straws.

And you have to blame Isiah because he didn&#039;t just let those &quot;old eggs&quot; fry up and be gone. He tried to go for the quick fix of just &quot;cracking new eggs&quot; and throwing them in there. It didn&#039;t work, and now we have every right to blame him for this mess. (And yes, we all know how bad the situation he took over was, but that doesn&#039;t exempt him from having to make it any better.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you RKade. Exactly right and exactly what I was talking about. But I guess that&#8217;s what fans of struggling teams do &#8211; we grasp for straws.</p>
<p>And you have to blame Isiah because he didn&#8217;t just let those &#8220;old eggs&#8221; fry up and be gone. He tried to go for the quick fix of just &#8220;cracking new eggs&#8221; and throwing them in there. It didn&#8217;t work, and now we have every right to blame him for this mess. (And yes, we all know how bad the situation he took over was, but that doesn&#8217;t exempt him from having to make it any better.)</p>
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		<title>By: RKade32</title>
		<link>http://KnickerBlogger.Net/knicks-need-to-address-home-woes/#comment-37385</link>
		<dc:creator>RKade32</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 17:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think we are all guilty of putting too much stock in Jared Jeffries&#039; return from his injury. First of all, I haven&#039;t seen many of his games as a Wizard, but in the few I did, he didn&#039;t stand out THAT much on defense. Second, he is just one player; defense is a team concept. The Knicks show all the attributes of poor defensive TEAM - inablility to keep the opposing point guard out of the paint, poor help defense, slow rotation, etc. Though Jeffries will improve the team defense, he is not the savior that we are making him out to be. He will not be guarding the T.J. Ford&#039;s and Tony Parker&#039;s, nor will he be defending the rim in place of Eddy Curry. He is just one player who has a decent reputation, but is not capable of turning around an entire unit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we are all guilty of putting too much stock in Jared Jeffries&#8217; return from his injury. First of all, I haven&#8217;t seen many of his games as a Wizard, but in the few I did, he didn&#8217;t stand out THAT much on defense. Second, he is just one player; defense is a team concept. The Knicks show all the attributes of poor defensive TEAM &#8211; inablility to keep the opposing point guard out of the paint, poor help defense, slow rotation, etc. Though Jeffries will improve the team defense, he is not the savior that we are making him out to be. He will not be guarding the T.J. Ford&#8217;s and Tony Parker&#8217;s, nor will he be defending the rim in place of Eddy Curry. He is just one player who has a decent reputation, but is not capable of turning around an entire unit.</p>
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