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Knicks Morning News (Wednesday, Oct 17 2012)

  • [New York Daily News] Calf keeps Camby out longer (Wed, 17 Oct 2012 05:00:22 GMT)
    Mike Woodson’s goal of getting his rotation in place by next week is being put to the test, as the Knicks aren’t even giving out a new timetable for Marcus Camby’s return from what was originally thought to be a minor leg injury.

  • [New York Post] Novak adding wrinkle (Wed, 17 Oct 2012 02:19:30 -0500)
    Did someone kidnap Steve Novak on the bus ride to Hartford Saturday? In the preseason game against the Celtics at XL Center, Novak was 1-of-6 from 3-point land and 3-of-5 on 2-pointers. That’s a statistical oddity that deserves an investigation.Coach Mike Woodson explained it yesterday, saying the 3-point…

  • [New York Post] Knicks guard Brewer close to returning (Wed, 17 Oct 2012 01:57:30 -0500)
    Now for some good news on the Knicks’ bleak injury front:
    Ronnie Brewer, their projected starting shooting guard, may practice today for the first time as a Knick and could make his club debut on their upcoming Montreal-Albany-Syracuse preseason road trip.
    On Media Day, Carmelo Anthony said the 27-year-old Brewer…

  • 23 comments on “Knicks Morning News (Wednesday, Oct 17 2012)

    1. Jafa

      Great peice by Marc Stein about extensions for the 2009 draft class (remember, that’s the draft that we totally blew by picking a useless PF from Arizona when there were a multitude of PGs available)

      http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8513967/nba-contract-extension-chances-class-2009

      Based on his analysis, the following could be available:

      Brandon Jennings – Milwaukee is taking a “wait and see” approach. I think we would all love the opportunity to right this wrong.

      Jeff Teague – Atlanta is holding out for CP3, the biggest pipe dream this side of Dwight Howard. I actually like this kid’s game, especially what he showed in the playoffs.

      Jrue Holiday – for some reason he wants the max and Philly is saying no. I wonder what he and his agent are smoking – must be some of the best stuff out there.

      Darren Collison – Mavs are not extending anybody and prefer to hold onto cap space. He may be the easiest to acquire.

      Eric Maynor – He may be a casualty of all the money that will probably go to James Harden. Love this kid.

      Tyreke Evans – I know, I know. But he is listed as a PG? Yeah, I can’t even convince myself that would be a good idea.

      If only we didn’t squander all our cap space on players we are currently less than satisfied with…

    2. nicos

      The only guy on that list I think would be a clear upgrade over Felton for this team is Teague (and maybe Collison). Holiday hasn’t shown he can run an offense at all and his shooting numbers are roughly the same as Felton’s over the last three years. Brandon Jennings shoots worse than Felton, compounds it with higher usage and is a worse playmaker. Eric Maynor is a worse shooting Felton (his career high TS% is .485); he does shoot less but if Felton shoots like he did in his last stint in NYC (or Denver or his last year in Charlotte) he’s certainly better.

    3. Gideon Zaga

      That article in ESPN magazine about Carmelo is the dumbest I’ve read all off season. It’s safe to say ESPN is off the hate Lebron and officially on and in full throttle on the Carmelo hate. It’s going to be a long season for RURU and co. Hope Carmelo has some thick skin, the wheels better not come off like last season or our season might be in jeopardy. And it looks like the rest of the world has caught up on PER, TS and all that. Once they realize WD48, yeah all heaven will break lose.

    4. d-mar

      On another topic, when I see a headline like “LeBron continuing to develop jump hook” it’s like Superboy learning he can fly. He’s going to be scarier than ever this year, which is saying something coming off of a championship.

    5. The Honorable Cock Jowles

      Jafa:

      Brandon Jennings – Milwaukee is taking a “wait and see” approach.I think we would all love the opportunity to right this wrong.

      Jeff Teague – Atlanta is holding out for CP3, the biggest pipe dream this side of Dwight Howard.I actually like this kid’s game, especially what he showed in the playoffs.

      Jrue Holiday – for some reason he wants the max and Philly is saying no.I wonder what he and his agent are smoking – must be some of the best stuff out there.

      Darren Collison – Mavs are not extending anybody and prefer to hold onto cap space.He may be the easiest to acquire.

      Eric Maynor – He may be a casualty of all the money that will probably go to James Harden.Love this kid.

      Tyreke Evans – I know, I know.But he is listed as a PG?Yeah, I can’t even convince myself that would be a good idea.

      If only we didn’t squander all our cap space on players we are currently less than satisfied with…

      Jennings is Allen Iverson v2.0. Awful shooter who will never stop taking shots from his teammates.

      Maynor has a career TS% of .48. If you think he can improve his TS% by 20%, then I want whatever you’re having. There’s no way he improves to even a serviceable PG with that kind of scoring efficiency.

      Teague is okay — bad at everything but scoring and stealing. Even then, he’s sitting at a 1.24 PPS when the league average for PG is 1.19. Not very good.

      Holiday: PPS? 1.05. Really bad.

      Collison’s only good at not fouling, not turning it over, and defensive rebounds. ZZZ on him.

      Not a good PG in that whole list. Average to bad.

    6. ruruland

      d-mar:
      On another topic, when I see a headline like “LeBron continuing to develop jump hook” it’s like Superboy learning he can fly. He’s going to be scarier than ever this year, which is saying something coming off of a championship.

      Rashard Lewis was a great addition. The Heat can do no wrong.

    7. The Honorable Cock Jowles

      ruruland: Rashard Lewis was a great addition. The Heat can do no wrong.

      Rashard Lewis with a 45.7 TS% and a 0.98 PPS last year? What?

    8. Juany8

      Is Rashard Lewis even going to play? They had a full rotation last year and they added Ray Allen, who’s minutes are they going to take way for Lewis, who is bad defensively and can basically just space the floor? Lewis seems like a decent insurance policy in case Battier goes down, nothing more

    9. ruruland

      The Honorable Cock Jowles: Rashard Lewis with a 45.7 TS% and a 0.98 PPS last year? What?

      Still can’t tell when I’m being sardonic ?

      There’s been a story about Lebron James improving his jump every year he’s been in the league. he’s a pretty good shooter, but he’s not going to get any more off-ball shots, which is the only thing that will really impact his percentage.

      Here is your daily dose of Knicks trolling: http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/ball-don-t-lie-2012-13-nba-season-180340519–nba.html

      This is going to be so much fun.

    10. ruruland

      Gideon Zaga:
      That article in ESPN magazine about Carmelo is the dumbest I’ve read all off season. It’s safe to say ESPN is off the hate Lebron and officially on and in full throttle on the Carmelo hate. It’s going to be a long season for RURU and co. Hope Carmelo has some thick skin, the wheels better not come off like last season or our season might be in jeopardy. And it looks like the rest of the world has caught up on PER, TS and all that. Once they realize WD48, yeah all heaven will break lose.

      Thank you. It will not be forgotten.

    11. The Honorable Cock Jowles

      And Love’s out ’til the second week of December. There goes any hope of the Wolves winning 55…

    12. The Honorable Cock Jowles

      er:
      They werent going to do that anyway my good sir…….the west is improved over last year

      Right. The West is improved because the Wolves suddenly got awesome, the Nuggets got an All-NBA wing and the Lakers got a good PG. What else has changed?

    13. Z-man

      http://offthedribble.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/17/how-good-will-lin-be/

      Mike, good NYT blog piece, much more objective than the love letter you posted here a few days ago. Although they are quite different physically (Lin more speed, Jackson more strenght) I think Mark Jackson is an interesting upside comparison to Lin. I don’t believe that Lin will be as good or as durable as Jackson turned out to be, but if (and these ar HUGE ifs) Lin stays healthy and improves, I could imagine them having similar careers.

      Way back when, I was giddy about Jackson his rookie year but soured on him (as did Riley) after 3-4 years because he was a hot dog, maddenlingly inconsistent on O, rarely in top shape and generally slow afoot, and a very, very suspect defender. Look at his defensive ratings in the playoffs during his early Knicks years!

      He was at his best in mid-late ’90s with Indiana after he matured, trimmed down, and adapted his game to suit those good Pacers teams. Took a long time to get there, though.

    14. Juany8

      The Honorable Cock Jowles: Right. The West is improved because the Wolves suddenly got awesome, the Nuggets got an All-NBA wing and the Lakers got a good PG. What else has changed?

      I would be willing to bet major money that the Wolves and Nuggets won’t both get out of the first round, regardless of health and opponents. I wouldn’t be surprised if one of those 2 teams misses the playoffs even. The Nuggets made a solid improvement, so at least they might be better than 6th in the west this year, but I’m not even sure the Wolves got better than Utah, and Love and Rubio being out to start the season is going to kill their record.

    15. Z-man

      The Honorable Cock Jowles: Jennings is Allen Iverson v2.0. Awful shooter who will never stop taking shots from his teammates.

      Most would say Jennings is a penniless man’s Allen Iverson. As 5’10″ 165 lb. one-man teams go, AI has no peer. Averaged 41 mpg for his career. All-NBA first team 3 times. League MVP. Not my kind of player, but 10x better than Jennings, who I would never, ever want as my PG.

    16. er

      a good amount of the bottom feeders improved therefore they wont be guaranteed wins

      The Honorable Cock Jowles: Right. The West is improved because the Wolves suddenly got awesome, the Nuggets got an All-NBA wing and the Lakers got a good PG. What else has changed?

    17. Z-man

      er:
      a good amount of the bottom feeders improved therefore they wont be guaranteed wins

      Golden State is a good example of an improved team. Wouldn’t shock me if they challenge for the 8 spot in the WC.

    18. ruruland

      Knicks can only win if :”Famously, the stack will have to work from a foundation that would place Carmelo Anthony almost exclusively at the power forward position he worked so expertly from late last season.”
      Projected record: 45-37

      Knicks defense was only good when Chandler was on the floor last year. Checks stats to make sure. Oh wait, we were wrong. whatever.

      The Knicks offense had an offensive rating of 106.1 under Mike Woodson, but it only worked because Carmelo Anthony knew he was going to be the top option. Which is somehow different from earlier in the year. Oh, Lin and Amar’e played during that stretch, and Amar’e had a TS above .600 with Woodson? Whatever:
      “the Knicks averaged 106.1 points-per-100; over the course of the regular season, that would have made them the fourth most potent offense in the league, and the best in the East.

      There’s a caveat, though: During that stretch, both Amar’e Stoudemire and Jeremy Lin were out of the lineup (FALSE!!!!!!!) which both removed any doubt that Anthony would be the team’s top option (which had existed since Lin’s emergence) and pushed him to the power forward slot, where he was far more effective (as he was the season before). The Carmelo/Amar’e problem didn’t get solved; it just got tabled. Now, it’s back.”

      After going over the few reasons the Knicks should improve from last year, the authoer provides this conclusion:

      “The fear — and, frankly, more likely outcome — is that Stoudemire’s post experiment is jettisoned at the first sign of failure in favor of a reversion to his familiar elbow face-up game, which looked creaky and fail-filled last season. That even if using ‘Melo at the four alongside space-creator Novak at the three is the team’s best bet for generating quality looks, ‘Melo refuse it. That even if Amar’e is ineffective, Woodson won’t send him to the bench because it would mean ruffling both STAT and ‘Melo.”

      What the fuck?

    19. Brian Cronin

      Most would say Jennings is a penniless man’s Allen Iverson. As 5’10? 165 lb. one-man teams go, AI has no peer. Averaged 41 mpg for his career. All-NBA first team 3 times. League MVP. Not my kind of player, but 10x better than Jennings, who I would never, ever want as my PG.

      Yeah, jeez, Jennings is not even in the same ballpark of Iverson. Iverson might have been overrated, but he was at least a legitimately good basketball player.

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