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Knicks Morning News (Wednesday, Oct 09 2013)

  • [New York Daily News] Woodson: Iman must improve to get Knicks over Shump (Wed, 09 Oct 2013 03:21:50 GMT)
    Mike Woodson admitted he’s still trying to “figure out” Iman Shumpert. He meant the player, not the person. Woodson praised Shumpert’s maturity, calling the third-year shooting guard easy to coach.    

  • [New York Daily News] Bondy: Knicks roster is in need of preseason TLC (Wed, 09 Oct 2013 03:17:26 GMT)
    Spotting up purposefully to take some flat-footed jumpers, working alone, Amar’e Stoudemire on Tuesday was a sad illustration of just how a pair of worn-out, rebuilt knee joints can sabotage a top NBA player, ruin everything. Nobody works harder than Stoudemire. Nobody did more to resurrect the image of the Knicks. Nobody deserves this sort of frustration less.    

  • [New York Daily News] Amar’e in ‘sad’ state: Melo wonders if Knick will ever be healthy (Wed, 09 Oct 2013 02:52:27 GMT)
    Amar’e Stoudemire didn’t just sit down in a chair. He fell into it, slumping as if his legs no longer had the power to support him, dog-tired after a spirited workout on Tuesday. He sunk down, his gangly legs extending past the mass of reporters who surrounded him.    

  • [New York Times] Blake and Gasol Lead Lakers Over Nuggets (Wed, 09 Oct 2013 05:11:58 GMT)
    Steve Blake scored 16 points and Pau Gasol added 14 to help the Los Angeles Lakers beat the Denver Nuggets 90-88 on Tuesday night with Kobe Bryant watching from the sidelines.    

  • [New York Times] Sports Briefing | Basketball: Lynx Close In on Championship (Wed, 09 Oct 2013 03:46:46 GMT)
    Seimone Augustus scored 20 points and Lindsay Whalen had 14 points and 5 assists to push the host Minnesota Lynx to the verge of their second title in three seasons.    

  • [New York Times] Evans Helps Jazz Rout Warriors (Wed, 09 Oct 2013 03:35:58 GMT)
    Jeremy Evans scored 12 points and had 13 rebounds to help the Utah Jazz rout the Golden State Warriors 101-78 in an exhibition Tuesday night.    

  • [New York Times] Lynx Are a Win Away From Title (Wed, 09 Oct 2013 03:33:22 GMT)
    Seimone Augustus scored 20 points and Lindsay Whalen had 14 points and 5 assists to push the host Minnesota Lynx to the verge of their second title in three seasons.    

  • [New York Times] Cavaliers Beat Bucks in Preseason Opener 99-87 (Wed, 09 Oct 2013 03:03:06 GMT)
    Tristan Thompson scored 17 points, Kyrie Irving added 14 and the Cleveland Cavaliers defeated the Milwaukee Bucks 99-87 in the preseason opener for both teams Tuesday night.    

  • [New York Times] Nets 111, Wizards 106 (Overtime): Nets Beat Wizards in Preseason Opener (Wed, 09 Oct 2013 02:54:13 GMT)
    Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce were the first two players introduced, and Coach Jason Kidd joked about wondering where to stand.    

  • [New York Times] Rookie Schroder Lifts Hawks Past Bobcats, 87-85 (Wed, 09 Oct 2013 02:21:03 GMT)
    Rookie guard Dennis Schroder scored on a runner with 2.1 seconds left to lift the Atlanta Hawks to an 87-85 victory over the Charlotte Bobcats in a preseason game Tuesday night.    

  • [New York Times] Kidd Wins Debut; Nets Top Wizards 111-106 in OT (Wed, 09 Oct 2013 02:11:58 GMT)
    Tyshawn Taylor scored 16 points, Paul Pierce had more fouls than points, and Jason Kidd was a winner in his coaching debut as the Brooklyn Nets opened their preseason with a 111-106 overtime victory over the Washington Wizards on Tuesday night.    

  • [New York Times] Drummond Leads Pistons to Rout of Maccabi Haifa (Wed, 09 Oct 2013 02:09:08 GMT)
    Andre Drummond had 17 points and nine rebounds to lead the Detroit Pistons to a 91-69 exhibition victory Tuesday night over Maccabi Haifa, the reigning Israeli Basketball Super League champions.    

  • 8 comments on “Knicks Morning News (Wednesday, Oct 09 2013)

    1. d-mar

      I heard Carton mention something this morning about how Amare may never play again in the NBA, is there news out there I don’t know about? I understand Carton isn’t exactly a reliable source, but not the kind of thing I need to hear on the way to work.

    2. Brian Cronin

      I heard Carton mention something this morning about how Amare may never play again in the NBA, is there news out there I don’t know about? I understand Carton isn’t exactly a reliable source, but not the kind of thing I need to hear on the way to work.

      That’s just an exaggeration on the fact that STAT is still not healthy enough to play from his more recent “secret” July knee surgery. It was just a clean-up surgery, fairly typical, but for whatever reason, STAT hasn’t healed as fast as expected. But he still expects to be ready early in the season. Although yes, the fact that he might not be ready for opening night is pretty freakin’ annoying.

    3. Hubert

      ptmilo:
      I think you guys are underestimating the extent of Chandler’s fall off last year, when I thought he was more often than not (shockingly) a below average defender.Opponents had an efg% over 51 when Tyson was on the floor last year,, worse than when he was off.Though of course not all his fauly, those two facts are incredibly unusual for a high defensive center.I think Chandler getting healthy or otherwise returning to form are points 1-4 on the Knicks hopes for defensive improvement.MWP does fill a gaping defensive hole from last year, but he is also almost 34 with 30k nba minutes.

      I think you’re right. And if that was a permanent drop off, we’re fucked and there is no road map back to a top defense.

      The Felton problem can be addressed by having Shumpert cover ball handlers and shifting Ray to two guards.

    4. lavor postell

      Hubert: I think you’re right.And if that was a permanent drop off, we’re fucked and there is no road map back to a top defense.

      The Felton problem can be addressed by having Shumpert cover ball handlers and shifting Ray to two guards.

      I’ve been pretty critical of Chandler as much as anybody, but the totality of his workload needs to be accounted for. In the 10-11 season he played the maximum amount of games in anchoring the Mavericks to the title. Then he played at an elite defensive level throughout the whole 11-12 strike shortened 66 game campaign before getting gassed from the workload at the very end of the season.

      While most guys went home and got to rest, Chandler (along with Melo) represented Team USA in London. It also seemed to me that the Felton-Chandler high pNr became the starting point of virtually every possession, with great effect at the beginning of the season, but I think that really took a lot out of him defensively at times and then eventually he just broke down during the second half of the season on our failure of a West Coast trip prior to Kurt Thomas’ Utah game.

      Remember that we aren’t long removed from Chandler owning Hibbert and Dwight Howard. We are only one season removed from a DPOY level of play that we haven’t seen from the Knicks since Ewing, Mason and Oakley patrolled the paint in the 90′s.

      Maybe we don’t get the 11-12 version of Chandler, but the addition of Bargnani adds a lot more variety to what our initial pNr action can be offensively. I’d ideally like Chandler to be setting more baseline screens and pindowns off the ball where he isn’t the center of the action on every play. I think this may be a reason Bargnani will be starting and if this saves Tyson on the offensive end with the benefit of a return to form defensively I would be ecstatic.

    5. johnno

      lavor postell: While most guys went home and got to rest, Chandler (along with Melo) represented Team USA in London.

      I think that not nearly enough is made of this. If I were the Owner/GM/Coach of an NBA team, there is no way that I would want anyone on my team playing in the Olympics — not because they might get hurt over the summer, because they will be working out/playing ball in the summer anyway (unless you are Eddy Curry), but because competing on the highest level with no break leads to fatigue, burnout and, eventually, injuries. It seems like LeBron James is the only guy who is immune (and that might be because of frequent visits to the Biogenisis Clinic, which was located just down the block from where he lives in Coconut Grove..).

    6. thenamestsam

      Finally, finally Basketball returns. Preseason is inevitably a tease because I get incredibly excited at the beginning, but then once it starts it’s, you know, the preseason and I just barely satiates the appetite until the real games start. But even knowing that I’m going to be disappointed, I’m still incredibly excited. How’s that for some self-delusion?

      Anyway, I don’t love the Prigs-Felton-Melo-Bargs-Tyson starting lineup long term because once JR returns I think it’s awkward to have both him and Shump coming off the bench. Of your four best guards starting the two natural PGs and bringing the two natural SGs off the bench is going to force some weird contortions in the rotation. You basically have to make a really early sub to get one of the PGs out of the game (JR for Prigs most likely) unless Udrih is going to play pretty big minutes at which point I really think you have too many guys in the rotation.

      But that’s more of a long-term issue than a short-term one, and it’ll be interesting to see where some guys are in the pecking order as of now, and especially to see how Bargnani is fitting in at the moment.

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