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		<title>By: Brian Cronin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Cronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 15:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;It’s entirely likely that he made the calculation that over the next 2-3 years, he thought Kidd + Felton + Prigs &gt; Lin + Felton from $, team chemistry, and NYC media drama perspectives.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I will certainly concede that that is &quot;possible,&quot; but I don&#039;t agree with &quot;likely.&quot; I think &quot;likely&quot; still points toward Grunwald being overruled by Dolan. There is no realistic way Woodson and Kidd say the things they said if Grunwald was not planning on bringing Lin back. 

And I know it sounds like I&#039;m taking the piss here, but seriously, &quot;Grunwald must have some magic hidden formula that says it was a bad idea to bring Lin back&quot; is something I &lt;strong&gt;would&lt;/strong&gt; accept. I agree that I trust Grunwald&#039;s instincts a lot. I just don&#039;t believe he did have said magic hidden formula that says it was a bad idea to bring Lin back. The day we learn that Grunwald was behind this move is the day I will concede, as yes, I &lt;strong&gt;do&lt;/strong&gt; trust him enough to trust his judgment on the decision. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It’s entirely likely that he made the calculation that over the next 2-3 years, he thought Kidd + Felton + Prigs > Lin + Felton from $, team chemistry, and NYC media drama perspectives.</p></blockquote>
<p>I will certainly concede that that is &#8220;possible,&#8221; but I don&#8217;t agree with &#8220;likely.&#8221; I think &#8220;likely&#8221; still points toward Grunwald being overruled by Dolan. There is no realistic way Woodson and Kidd say the things they said if Grunwald was not planning on bringing Lin back. </p>
<p>And I know it sounds like I&#8217;m taking the piss here, but seriously, &#8220;Grunwald must have some magic hidden formula that says it was a bad idea to bring Lin back&#8221; is something I <strong>would</strong> accept. I agree that I trust Grunwald&#8217;s instincts a lot. I just don&#8217;t believe he did have said magic hidden formula that says it was a bad idea to bring Lin back. The day we learn that Grunwald was behind this move is the day I will concede, as yes, I <strong>do</strong> trust him enough to trust his judgment on the decision. </p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 15:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-417649&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-417649&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Brian&#032;Cronin&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: 
The Knicks could have had &lt;strong&gt;both&lt;/strong&gt;. That’s one of the reasons why I’m still in “it was a no brainer” territory.


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The big issue with the &quot;both&quot; side of things is the media circus if J-Lin gets benched or doesn&#039;t play much because he&#039;s not playing that well.  This team has enough drama, doesn&#039;t need more of it for a guy who will likely be a middle-of-the-pack PG.  

Honestly - ignoring the fact that Felton got hurt, since one can never predict injuries (and Felton has historically been very durable), which one of these two players would you rather have -- all things considered, including salary and drama potential?

http://bkref.com/tiny/aVOZS

It&#039;s really not a no-brainer.  If &lt;i&gt;anything&lt;/i&gt; can be said about Grunwald at this point in his Knicks career, it&#039;s that he is a very shrewd evaluator of cheap under-the-radar talent-  and you have to think that NO ONE knew his game better than the Knicks did.  It&#039;s entirely likely that he made the calculation that over the next 2-3 years, he thought Kidd + Felton + Prigs &gt; Lin + Felton from $, team chemistry, and NYC media drama perspectives.

I also think, given that we know that SportVu is in MSG, and how the team&#039;s shot distribution has changed markedly to favor more efficient shots, that there were a fair amount of analytics involved in these decisions.  Just because Woody/Grunwald et al. don&#039;t talk about analytics doesn&#039;t mean they don&#039;t see and use lots of them.]]></description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-417649" rel="nofollow">Brian&#032;Cronin</a></strong>:<br />
The Knicks could have had <strong>both</strong>. That’s one of the reasons why I’m still in “it was a no brainer” territory.</p>
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<p>The big issue with the &#8220;both&#8221; side of things is the media circus if J-Lin gets benched or doesn&#8217;t play much because he&#8217;s not playing that well.  This team has enough drama, doesn&#8217;t need more of it for a guy who will likely be a middle-of-the-pack PG.  </p>
<p>Honestly &#8211; ignoring the fact that Felton got hurt, since one can never predict injuries (and Felton has historically been very durable), which one of these two players would you rather have &#8212; all things considered, including salary and drama potential?</p>
<p><a href="http://bkref.com/tiny/aVOZS" rel="nofollow">http://bkref.com/tiny/aVOZS</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s really not a no-brainer.  If <i>anything</i> can be said about Grunwald at this point in his Knicks career, it&#8217;s that he is a very shrewd evaluator of cheap under-the-radar talent-  and you have to think that NO ONE knew his game better than the Knicks did.  It&#8217;s entirely likely that he made the calculation that over the next 2-3 years, he thought Kidd + Felton + Prigs &gt; Lin + Felton from $, team chemistry, and NYC media drama perspectives.</p>
<p>I also think, given that we know that SportVu is in MSG, and how the team&#8217;s shot distribution has changed markedly to favor more efficient shots, that there were a fair amount of analytics involved in these decisions.  Just because Woody/Grunwald et al. don&#8217;t talk about analytics doesn&#8217;t mean they don&#8217;t see and use lots of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cronin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Cronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 15:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Knicks could have had &lt;strong&gt;both&lt;/strong&gt;. Would they be 5-6 in the games Felton missed if Lin was on the team? Highly unlikely. That&#039;s one of the reasons why I&#039;m still in &quot;it was a no brainer to match&quot; territory.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Knicks could have had <strong>both</strong>. Would they be 5-6 in the games Felton missed if Lin was on the team? Highly unlikely. That&#8217;s one of the reasons why I&#8217;m still in &#8220;it was a no brainer to match&#8221; territory.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 15:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[btw, despite being a huge Jeremy Lin fan, I still am quite ok with the decision over the offseason to let him go.  He&#039;s really not playing particularly well (for the year - TS 50.8%, 28% from 3 point range, on a usage of ~20), and lately Patrick Beverley and Toney Douglas have been getting more and more minutes. Now before anyone says that his numbers are better than Felton&#039;s, one should realize that the Knicks are FAR better with Felton on the floor than off the floor whereas the Rockets are better without Lin on offense AND defense (net rating +2.9 without him even considering the guys who back Douglas up are basically scrap heap guys). And not that W/L in a small sample is that reliable, but the Knicks are 5-6 without Felton, and 20-8 WITH Felton.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>btw, despite being a huge Jeremy Lin fan, I still am quite ok with the decision over the offseason to let him go.  He&#8217;s really not playing particularly well (for the year &#8211; TS 50.8%, 28% from 3 point range, on a usage of ~20), and lately Patrick Beverley and Toney Douglas have been getting more and more minutes. Now before anyone says that his numbers are better than Felton&#8217;s, one should realize that the Knicks are FAR better with Felton on the floor than off the floor whereas the Rockets are better without Lin on offense AND defense (net rating +2.9 without him even considering the guys who back Douglas up are basically scrap heap guys). And not that W/L in a small sample is that reliable, but the Knicks are 5-6 without Felton, and 20-8 WITH Felton.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 15:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I usually agree with Zach Lowe on most things, but I have overall been impressed with Amare. Yes his defense is God-awful, but it&#039;s not so much worse than it ever was.  Plus, I think the best situation for Amare is to play with Rasheed on defense.  But Amare&#039;s offense? It looks really quite good to me.  He&#039;s #4 in the league in post PPP at 1.07. He&#039;s barely isolating at all (only 5% of possessions).  He hasn&#039;t really played with a good PNR guard yet but still is top 25 in the league with 1.09 PPP on PNRs.  When his jumper comes back (and maybe it&#039;s on its way -- has looked much better in recent games), he&#039;ll really be an elite offensive player again, albeit with less usage than in the past.

His defense? It&#039;ll obviously never be good, but if protected by playing with Tyson or Rasheed, it&#039;ll be fine.  He should still probably come out for defensive purposes when possible at end of games (eventually Camby/Tyson is probably our best defensive frontcourt), but I&#039;ve been pretty happy with what I&#039;ve seen from Amare.

Meanwhile, I am quite surprised by how much we&#039;ve missed Rasheed Wallace.  Having Amare as the primary C on the 2nd unit (albeit with Novak etc. as the PF) has made that unit horrible on D.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I usually agree with Zach Lowe on most things, but I have overall been impressed with Amare. Yes his defense is God-awful, but it&#8217;s not so much worse than it ever was.  Plus, I think the best situation for Amare is to play with Rasheed on defense.  But Amare&#8217;s offense? It looks really quite good to me.  He&#8217;s #4 in the league in post PPP at 1.07. He&#8217;s barely isolating at all (only 5% of possessions).  He hasn&#8217;t really played with a good PNR guard yet but still is top 25 in the league with 1.09 PPP on PNRs.  When his jumper comes back (and maybe it&#8217;s on its way &#8212; has looked much better in recent games), he&#8217;ll really be an elite offensive player again, albeit with less usage than in the past.</p>
<p>His defense? It&#8217;ll obviously never be good, but if protected by playing with Tyson or Rasheed, it&#8217;ll be fine.  He should still probably come out for defensive purposes when possible at end of games (eventually Camby/Tyson is probably our best defensive frontcourt), but I&#8217;ve been pretty happy with what I&#8217;ve seen from Amare.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, I am quite surprised by how much we&#8217;ve missed Rasheed Wallace.  Having Amare as the primary C on the 2nd unit (albeit with Novak etc. as the PF) has made that unit horrible on D.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cronin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Cronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 11:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was thinking more about Torre&#039;s handling of the roster, which forced them to actually change the rules &lt;b&gt;twice&lt;/b&gt; (once to take away as much control from the AL manager, as Torre kept picking his own guys and the second time because Torre filled his roster with pitchers he wouldn&#039;t use in the infamous tie game). 

But yeah, with Girardi I&lt;em&gt; was&lt;/em&gt; thinking about his managing job. A weird time by him. It still kills me that Hughes was the guy who gave up the game-losing runs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was thinking more about Torre&#8217;s handling of the roster, which forced them to actually change the rules <b>twice</b> (once to take away as much control from the AL manager, as Torre kept picking his own guys and the second time because Torre filled his roster with pitchers he wouldn&#8217;t use in the infamous tie game). </p>
<p>But yeah, with Girardi I<em> was</em> thinking about his managing job. A weird time by him. It still kills me that Hughes was the guy who gave up the game-losing runs.</p>
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		<title>By: BigBlueAL</title>
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		<dc:creator>BigBlueAL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 11:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not sure, I just looked up their records at the end of the last 2 weekends in January assuming one of those times was the date used to choose the coaches and the Knicks were half a game ahead at the end of one of them while the Hawks were half a game ahead in the other one.  

BTW Torre actually never lost an All-Star Game, he was 5-0 plus the infamous tie in 2002.  Girardi was criticized pretty heavily actually for the way he seemingly mismanaged the later innings of the 2010 All-Star Game which the AL lost 3-1.  It was the first win by the NL since 1996 lol.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure, I just looked up their records at the end of the last 2 weekends in January assuming one of those times was the date used to choose the coaches and the Knicks were half a game ahead at the end of one of them while the Hawks were half a game ahead in the other one.  </p>
<p>BTW Torre actually never lost an All-Star Game, he was 5-0 plus the infamous tie in 2002.  Girardi was criticized pretty heavily actually for the way he seemingly mismanaged the later innings of the 2010 All-Star Game which the AL lost 3-1.  It was the first win by the NL since 1996 lol.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Cronin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Cronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 10:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, that&#039;s just the season I was thinking of, Al. But even before then, the Knicks were routinely at least in the &lt;b&gt;running&lt;/b&gt; to have their coach coach the All Star Game, which is great. I always love when the Yankee manager gets to coach the MLB All Star Game (even if Yankee managers haven&#039;t exactly done a great job with it).

Off the top of your head, if Riley had not coached the 1993 All-Star Game, would he have been the coach for 1994? I know I could just look it up, but I figure if you know it off the top of your head, it&#039;ll save me some effort. ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, that&#8217;s just the season I was thinking of, Al. But even before then, the Knicks were routinely at least in the <b>running</b> to have their coach coach the All Star Game, which is great. I always love when the Yankee manager gets to coach the MLB All Star Game (even if Yankee managers haven&#8217;t exactly done a great job with it).</p>
<p>Off the top of your head, if Riley had not coached the 1993 All-Star Game, would he have been the coach for 1994? I know I could just look it up, but I figure if you know it off the top of your head, it&#8217;ll save me some effort. ;)</p>
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		<title>By: BigBlueAL</title>
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		<dc:creator>BigBlueAL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 10:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-417640&quot;&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-417640&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Brian&#032;Cronin&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: 
Annoyingly, since the Bulls had the best record at the break last season, Spoelstra is eligible to coach this year’s All Star Game so the Knicks would have to pass the Heat for Woody to get the gig. That’d be really awesome if it happened (sorry, me mentioning JVG made me recall the last time that the Knicks had a team where having their coach coach in the All Star Game was a yearly possibility).


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JVG did coach the 2000 East All-Star team although it was due to Bird having coached the team in 1998 (no All-Star Game in 1999).  I remember the Knicks won on the final day before the records were used to choose the All-Star coaches and that win put them a game ahead of the Heat at the time for 2nd best record in the conference (Pacers obviously had best record).  Riley as Knicks coach also coached the East in the 1993 All-Star Game.

Also yeah I wasnt exactly bragging about the Knicks being #1 on the Forbes list.  I could give a rat&#039;s ass about that lol.]]></description>
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<p><strong><a href="#comment-417640" rel="nofollow">Brian&#032;Cronin</a></strong>:<br />
Annoyingly, since the Bulls had the best record at the break last season, Spoelstra is eligible to coach this year’s All Star Game so the Knicks would have to pass the Heat for Woody to get the gig. That’d be really awesome if it happened (sorry, me mentioning JVG made me recall the last time that the Knicks had a team where having their coach coach in the All Star Game was a yearly possibility).</p>
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<p>JVG did coach the 2000 East All-Star team although it was due to Bird having coached the team in 1998 (no All-Star Game in 1999).  I remember the Knicks won on the final day before the records were used to choose the All-Star coaches and that win put them a game ahead of the Heat at the time for 2nd best record in the conference (Pacers obviously had best record).  Riley as Knicks coach also coached the East in the 1993 All-Star Game.</p>
<p>Also yeah I wasnt exactly bragging about the Knicks being #1 on the Forbes list.  I could give a rat&#8217;s ass about that lol.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Cronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 09:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Annoyingly, since the Bulls had the best record at the break last season, Spoelstra is eligible to coach this year&#039;s All Star Game so the Knicks would have to pass the Heat for Woody to get the gig. That&#039;d be really awesome if it happened (sorry, me mentioning JVG made me recall the last time that the Knicks had a team where having their coach coach in the All Star Game was a yearly possibility).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Annoyingly, since the Bulls had the best record at the break last season, Spoelstra is eligible to coach this year&#8217;s All Star Game so the Knicks would have to pass the Heat for Woody to get the gig. That&#8217;d be really awesome if it happened (sorry, me mentioning JVG made me recall the last time that the Knicks had a team where having their coach coach in the All Star Game was a yearly possibility).</p>
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