Statistical Analysis. Humor. Knicks.

Friday, December 19, 2014

Knicks Morning News (Wednesday, Jan 11 2012)

  • [New York Daily News] Knicks’ Iman may be man of steal (Wed, 11 Jan 2012 05:27:43 GMT)
    New York basketball fans tend to go overboard on their favorite rookies, which sometimes comes back to haunt anyone who bleeds blue and orange.

  • [New York Post] Knicks rookie Shumpert turning plenty of heads (Wed, 11 Jan 2012 02:46:08 -0500)
    Most rookies would be intimidated joining a team featuring Carmelo Anthony and Amar’e Stoudemire, much less being thrust right into the starting lineup. But the Knicks say Iman Shumpert isn’t ordinary but extraordinary, a draft night steal because of the confidence in his own abilities and the chip…

  • [New York Post] Knicks’ Chandler getting scary (Wed, 11 Jan 2012 01:45:35 -0500)
    So far this season, Tyson Chandler has been efficient. Monday against the Bobcats, he was dominant. And coming into tonight’s game against the 76ers at the Garden, the Knicks think their new center will only get better as he and his teammates continue to get to know each other…

  • [New York Times] N.B.A. Roundup: Brand and 76ers Win 6th in Row (Wed, 11 Jan 2012 07:09:09 GMT)
    Elton Brand had a season-high 21 points and 10 rebounds, and the host Philadelphia 76ers routed the Sacramento Kings, 112-85, on Tuesday night for their sixth straight victory.

  • [New York Times] Rose Leads Bulls Over Rubio, Timberwolves, 111-100 (Wed, 11 Jan 2012 09:26:54 GMT)
    It seems like every time Ricky Rubio gets off the bench to enter a game, the Minnesota Timberwolves are facing a big deficit.

  • [New York Times] Brilliant Bryant Scorches Suns With 48 Points (Wed, 11 Jan 2012 07:02:58 GMT)
    Kobe Bryant turned back the clock with a 48-point effort to lead the Los Angeles Lakers to a 99-83 win over the Phoenix Suns on Tuesday.

  • [New York Times] Wright Leads Warriors Past Heat 111-106 in OT (Wed, 11 Jan 2012 06:47:57 GMT)
    Dorell Wright scored 20 points and made a season-high six 3-pointers, including a tying shot late in regulation, and the short-handed Golden State Warriors spoiled Dwyane Wade’s return with a 111-106 overtime victory over the Miami Heat on Tuesday night.

  • [New York Times] Lakers Beat Suns 99-83 to Win 3rd in a Row (Wed, 11 Jan 2012 06:09:10 GMT)
    Kobe Bryant scored 48 points — his fifth straight game with 25 or more — and the Los Angeles Lakers defeated the Phoenix Suns 99-83 Tuesday night to win their seventh straight at home and third in a row overall.

  • [New York Times] Trail Blazers Hold Off Clippers, 105-97 (Wed, 11 Jan 2012 06:11:56 GMT)
    Gerald Wallace scored 20 points, making a key 3-pointer with two minutes left, and the Portland Trail Blazers avenged a loss to the Los Angeles Clippers on New Year’s Day with a 105-97 victory on Tuesday night.

  • [New York Times] Wizards Break Losing Spell With Raptors Romp (Wed, 11 Jan 2012 05:20:50 GMT)
    At the ninth time of asking, the Washington Wizards finally earned their first victory of the season with a surprisingly comfortable 93-78 home triumph over the Toronto Raptors on Tuesday.

  • [New York Times] Jefferson Scores 30, Jazz Beat Cavs 113-105 (Wed, 11 Jan 2012 04:48:07 GMT)
    Al Jefferson scored a season-high 30 points and Paul Millsap added 19 and the Utah Jazz defeated the Cleveland Cavaliers 113-105 Tuesday night.

  • [New York Times] Westbrook, Durant Lead Thunder Over Grizzlies (Wed, 11 Jan 2012 04:00:29 GMT)
    Russell Westbrook scored 30 points, Kevin Durant added 22 points and 11 rebounds, and the Oklahoma City Thunder won their fourth straight with a 100-95 victory over the Memphis Grizzlies on Tuesday night.

  • [New York Times] Wizards Breathe Sigh of Relief With First Win of Season (Wed, 11 Jan 2012 03:32:57 GMT)
    The Washington Wizards finally earned their first victory of the season on Tuesday by beating the Toronto Raptors 93-78 to end their painful drought.

  • [New York Times] Rose Leads Bulls Over Rubio, Timberwolves, 111-100 (Wed, 11 Jan 2012 03:33:03 GMT)
    Derrick Rose scored a season-high 31 points and had 11 assists to outlast Ricky Rubio in a thrilling duel, leading the Chicago Bulls to a 111-100 victory over the Minnesota Timberwolves on Tuesday night.

  • [New York Times] Jackson Helps Bucks Top Spurs 106-103 (Wed, 11 Jan 2012 03:32:53 GMT)
    Stephen Jackson had 34 points and eight assists in his best game since joining Milwaukee in an offseason trade, leading the Bucks to a 106-103 victory over the San Antonio Spurs on Tuesday night.

  • [New York Times] Mavs at .500 After 100-86 Rout of Pistons (Wed, 11 Jan 2012 03:18:03 GMT)
    Dirk Nowitzki scored 18 points, and the Dallas Mavericks reached the .500 mark by routing the Detroit Pistons 100-86 on Tuesday night.

  • [New York Times] On Basketball: Shumpert Already Thrills the Crowd, and the Knicks (Wed, 11 Jan 2012 07:09:09 GMT)
    Iman Shumpert, a rookie guard, has become the Knicks’ best guard, their most valued energy source and, in effect, their fourth star.

  • [New York Times] Wade Returns to Heat Lineup Against Warriors (Wed, 11 Jan 2012 03:03:07 GMT)
    Dwyane Wade is back in the starting lineup for the Miami Heat against the Golden State Warriors after missing the last three games with a bruised left foot.

  • [New York Times] Parsons’ 20 Points Lead Rockets Past Bobcats 82-70 (Wed, 11 Jan 2012 02:48:23 GMT)
    Rookie Chandler Parsons scored 20 points and Kevin Martin added 17 points and the Houston Rockets defeated the Charlotte Bobcats 82-70 Tuesday night to snap a four-game losing streak.

  • [New York Times] Wizards Beat Raptors 93-78 for First Victory (Wed, 11 Jan 2012 02:33:03 GMT)
    Rashard Lewis and Nick Young each had 15 points to lead the Washington Wizards to their first win after eight straight losses, a 93-78 victory over the Toronto Raptors on Tuesday night.

  • [New York Times] 76ers Rout Kings for 6th Straight Win (Wed, 11 Jan 2012 02:27:23 GMT)
    Elton Brand had a season-high 21 points and 10 rebounds, and the Philadelphia 76ers routed the Sacramento Kings 112-85 Tuesday night for their sixth straight victory.

  • 32 comments on “Knicks Morning News (Wednesday, Jan 11 2012)

    1. Z-man

      Picking up on the last thread, I am glad we didn’t pick up Nate. I liked him when we were a non-contender, but he was more of a sideshow than anything else. He is an attention hound with a big mouth and a low b-ball IQ. He would get burned on the PnR over and over by going under screens. He would light up the Garden for 40+ and then go 2-18 with a dumb technical. The locker room seems pretty stable right now, so why mess that up for an erratic, immature, undersized 2-guard? I’d rather struggle for a while with what we have. We still have that $2.5mil exception to use; someone else will eventually shake loose that is a better fit.

    2. Brian Cronin (@Brian_Cronin)

      What do you think about Antawn Jamison, if he gets waived late in the year? He would almost certainly clear waivers, and in that case, the Knicks would have more money to spend than most other teams. Think he could be a fit?

    3. d-mar

      Mulligan:
      That Howard Beck piece on Shump is definitely a good read.

      Yeah, he really is an excellent writer even if I don’t agree with him on everything. Love this part:

      “Knicks fans have engaged in their share of irrational love affairs in recent years, falling for undisciplined exuberance (Nate Robinson), unbridled athleticism (Renaldo Balkman) and plucky overachievement (Landry Fields), only for their hearts to be crushed.”

      That’s pretty good writing right there.

    4. Shad0wF0x

      Didn’t Antawn say somewhere that he was eventually going to sign with Charlotte and end his career in North Carolina?

    5. Doug

      d-mar: Yeah, he really is an excellent writer even if I don’t agree with him on everything. Love this part:

      “Knicks fans have engaged in their share of irrational love affairs in recent years, falling for undisciplined exuberance (Nate Robinson), unbridled athleticism (Renaldo Balkman) and plucky overachievement (Landry Fields), only for their hearts to be crushed.”
      That’s pretty good writing right there.

      That sentence stuck with me too. It captured the essence of all three guys in only six words.

    6. Nick C.

      Doug: That sentence stuck with me too. It captured the essence of all three guys in only six words.

      Can I third or is it fourth that.

    7. Kikuchiyo

      I think the Warriors should trade for Channing Frye.

      My 2005 dreams are finally coming true out West!

    8. nicos

      Can’t say the idea of Jamison excites me too much. I guess you could make the argument that his poor numbers this year and last were caused by being asked to do too much for a truly awful team but I think age has as much to do with it as anything else. In an ideal world, I’d like to see Fields come back to life enough that when BD returns, Shumpert can come off the bench and they’d go with a defense-crazed trapping second unit of Shump, TD, Balkman, Jeffries, and Amar’e at center. Trouble is, beyond Fields and TD returning to form, it’d be tough to play an energy-dependent style with the schedule so compressed.

    9. Caleb

      @2 not interested – we have Amare and Carmelo, and when they’re getting a rest, I’d rather have someone who can D it up. And Antawn is way too slow at this point to play the 3.

    10. Garson

      Any reason knicks are favorite by 4 points tonite? Am i missed something , feel it should be closer to a pikem.

    11. D.

      Sounds about right, I’m taking the points on that. Plus it’s at home so.

      Garson:
      Any reason knicks are favorite by 4 points tonite? Am i missed something , feel it should be closer to a pikem.

    12. d-mar

      D.:
      Sounds about right, I’m taking the points on that. Plus it’s at home so.

      Sixers 3rd game in 3 nights probably has something to do with it.

    13. hoolahoop

      That bet sounds to good to be true. Is multiple players hurt on Philly. I was expecting to get trounced by the Sixers tonight.

    14. D.

      Teams mostly are at their best on the 2nd and worse on the 3rd game on a back to back to back. Plus it’s a road game, those are huge in the NBA plus benches play better at home, although the bockers have the worst bench in terms of scoring output in the league but they do other things well. The Knicks will come to play, it’s a home game, no one likes to get booed at home. And when the Knicks come to play, they come to play.

      D.:
      Sounds about right, I’m taking the points on that. Plus it’s at home so.

    15. ruruland

      My dream scenario for the Knicks bench would be to sign K-Mart in March and then Jr Smith in the off-season. They could be the best bench combo in the NBA, and there’s a false stigma attached to each of them that would make their signings somewhat feasible.

    16. Frank O.

      Doug: That sentence stuck with me too. It captured the essence of all three guys in only six words.

      It also clearly reflects the proclivities of this blog

    17. Frank O.

      D.:
      And when the Knicks come to play, they come to play.

      Haven’t seen a sentence like that written about the Knicks in a long time…
      Still not sure it reflects the current team…yet.;)

    18. D.

      Dude correct me if I’m wrong, I’m trying to profile you from your posts. You’re a former nuggets fan, u seem to know a lot about that team, you are the ultimate melo apologists, you defense of him often lacks objectivity so it might be that u know him personally or are stalking him. Lastly your fascination with bad boys makes me think you’re female, maybe your the main handle of the melo street team. Or u just want the Knicks to become the melo nuggets. Not a bad offensive team by the way. What’s my count?

      ruruland:
      My dream scenario for the Knicks bench would be to sign K-Mart in March and then Jr Smith in the off-season. They could be the best bench combo in the NBA, and there’s a falsestigma attached to each of them that would make their signings somewhat feasible.

    19. ruruland

      D.: Dude correct me if I’m wrong, I’m trying to profile you from your posts. You’re a former nuggets fan, u seem to know a lot about that team, you are the ultimate melo apologists, you defense of him often lacks objectivity so it might be that u know him personally or are stalking him. Lastly your fascination with bad boys makes me think you’re female, maybe your the main handle of the melo street team. Or u just want the Knicks to become the melo nuggets. Not a bad offensive team by the way. What’s my count?

      Haha. Wow. Female, really? I guess I got to check myself, dear god.

      I’m sure I come off as a Melo apologist, which is pretty funny considering my reputation on other boards. I suppose I feel like I need to try to balance the overal narrative here a bit.

      But yeah, lifelong Nuggets fan, still am. Used to have season tickets and met Melo a few times.

      Obviously, KMart and JR would be great additions purely for basketball reasons. Though they were two of my favorite players in Denver precisely because they were never favorites of the white middle class fanbase. (they were the Thuggets).

      From a personality/persona standpoint, Kenyon would be an ideal addition. And Junior is one of the most talented players in basketball who’s spent the majority of his career playing under a coach who held a personal grudge against him (whether it was somewhat warranted or not)…. The same grudge Karl held against Ray Allen and kendall Gill.

      I can’t tell you how great a fit JR Smith would be in this offense, either off the bench or beside Shumpert.

      Might sound fanboyish, but it’s the truth. Purely from a statistical perspective, JR Smith may have been the second most valuable player during Melo’s tenure — and he possesses skills as a ballhandler and playmaker that were often severly underutilized, beside the fact that his playing time was…

    20. ruruland

      yanked around quite a bit.

      Check out JR’s net +/- in Denver

      2010: +2.8 with a 17.4 PER, he led all Nuggets in +/- pre-trade
      2009: +3.1 with a 17 PER
      2008: +9.7 (led team by a long shot) with a 18.9 PER
      2007: +4.7, 20.4 PER
      2006: +3.1 17.1 PER

      Most year in Denver the bench outperformed the starters… some of it was because guys like Anthony Carter started, much of it was JR Smith…. and he can get lost at times defensively, but more than makes up for it his energy….teams were typically better defensively with him at the 2 guard… In fact, his defensive profile was better than Aflallos.

    21. JK47

      The more I think about it the more I want JR Smith. We desperately need some guards who can score with reasonable efficiency.

    22. ruruland

      2010 TS%: 550, better than Jason Terry and Kobe Bryant, assist percentage very close to Bryant and Wade. 11th in SG PER

      2008-09: 576 TS, higher than Wade, Bryant and Roy, assist % higher than Bryant, Terry, Allen (Among others who seem to have better reputations as passers)

      2007-08: 603 TS, just beggining to develop playmaking skills.. 12.9 assist rate

      2006-07: 585 TS, first year given extended playing time over long period

      Smith is simply one of the elite bench players in basketball, and can easily be a top 5 SG if trusted by coach… SSOL is the ideal system for Smith, who would probably be the best playmaker on the current Knicks team sans Davis.

    23. jon abbey

      D.:
      Teams mostly are at their best on the 2nd and worse on the 3rd game on a back to back to back.

      how many back to back to backs have there been in league history so far, maybe three? plus Philly starters didn’t have to play much last night, I doubt that will be much of an issue.

    24. D.

      Haha I tried to quote whoever that was the replied to my post but i just don’t know how well. Thanks for the reply ruru. Plus isn’t JR from NY, hmmm I don’t know. MDA’s track record with personalities isn’t good, see Nate.

      Eternal OptiKnist:
      @ 19 Did you really just quote yourself?

    25. ruruland

      D.: Haha I tried to quote whoever that was the replied to my post but i just don’t know how well. Thanks for the reply ruru. Plus isn’t JR from NY, hmmm I don’t know. MDA’s track record with personalities isn’t good, see Nate.

      he is a personality, but he matured quite a bit (NBA related) under Karl…. It’s one of those things that is completely overblown, IMO. Guys who are that good and can carry a team through long stretches shouldn’t be treated as GK treated JR. he should have been a Manu/Terry 35 mpg guy.

      Smith will take a lot of “bad” shots… But he’s a guy with the best range in basketball, without a doubt..and when he’s going it extends beyond 30 ft. That’s often when he’d get yanked.

    Comments are closed.