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Knicks Morning News (Wednesday, Feb 27 2013)

  • [New York Daily News] Former Knick Jackson returns to MSG with Warriors (Wed, 27 Feb 2013 07:28:10 GMT)
    Mark Jackson will finally make his coaching debut at Madison Square Garden Wednesday night, 123 games into his career with the Golden State Warriors and four years after he nearly ended up on the Knicks bench. “Honestly, it’s just another day at the office,â? Jackson said.

  • [New York Daily News] Amar’e approves of Knicks’ 30-minute limit (Wed, 27 Feb 2013 04:50:47 GMT)
    Amar’e Stoudemire’s ceiling, as determined by the Knicks’ medical staff with some input from Mike Woodson, is the same as your standard television sitcom: 30 minutes.

  • [New York Times] LeBron, Wade Help Heat Topple Kings in Double OT (Wed, 27 Feb 2013 07:24:42 GMT)
    LeBron James and Dwyane Wade combined for 79 points as the Miami Heat prevailed 141-129 in a double overtime marathon against the Sacramento Kings on Tuesday.

  • [New York Times] Clippers Blow Out Bobcats 106-84 (Wed, 27 Feb 2013 06:01:01 GMT)
    Blake Griffin scored 24 points, keying a decisive second-quarter burst that put the Clippers in command, and Los Angeles beat the Charlotte Bobcats 106-84 on Tuesday night to improve to 23-6 at home.

  • [New York Times] Nets 101, Hornets 97: Nets’ Brook Lopez Finds Spark Against His Brother (Wed, 27 Feb 2013 05:27:23 GMT)
    Facing his twin Robin Lopez of the Hornets, Brook Lopez had his best game since the All-Star break, finishing with 20 points to help the Nets to victory.

  • [New York Times] Suns Survive OT for 84-83 Win Over Wolves (Wed, 27 Feb 2013 05:25:02 GMT)
    Marcin Gortat hit big shots at the end of regulation and overtime, helping the Phoenix Suns end a three-game losing streak with an 84-83 victory over the Minnesota Timberwolves on Tuesday night.

  • [New York Times] Heat Win 12th Straight, Outlast Kings in 2OT (Wed, 27 Feb 2013 05:03:04 GMT)
    Heat coach Erik Spoelstra summed up the efforts of LeBron James and Dwyane Wade in three words: “Video game numbers,” he said.

  • [New York Times] N.B.A. Roundup: With James, Heat Survives 2 Overtimes (Wed, 27 Feb 2013 04:34:17 GMT)
    LeBron James had 40 points and a career-high 16 assists, Dwyane Wade scored 39 and the Miami Heat pushed their winning streak to 12 games by outlasting the Kings, 141-129.

  • [New York Times] LeBron Scores 40 as Heat Topple Kings in Double OT (Wed, 27 Feb 2013 04:27:38 GMT)
    LeBron James and Dwyane Wade combined for 79 points as the Miami Heat prevailed 141-129 in a double overtime marathon against the Sacramento Kings on Tuesday.

  • [New York Times] Ellis Spoils Nowitzki’s 20-20 Game, Bucks Top Mavs (Wed, 27 Feb 2013 04:22:16 GMT)
    Monta Ellis scored 22 points, and the Milwaukee Bucks spoiled Dirk Nowitzki’s first game in nearly 10 years with at least 20 points and 20 rebounds with a 95-90 victory against the Dallas Mavericks on Tuesday night.

  • [New York Times] Pacers Beat Warriors After 4th-Quarter Scuffle (Wed, 27 Feb 2013 04:10:06 GMT)
    If the Indiana Pacers learned anything from their 108-97 win over the Golden State Warriors on Tuesday, it’s exactly how close they are as a team.

  • [New York Times] Williams, Lopez Lead Nets Past Hornets, 101-97 (Wed, 27 Feb 2013 04:04:33 GMT)
    Deron Williams scored 33 points, Brook Lopez added 20 points and four blocks while playing against his twin brother, Robin, and the Brooklyn Nets snapped a two-game skid with a 101-97 victory over the New Orleans Hornets on Tuesday night.

  • [New York Times] Cavs Stop Slide Against Bulls With 101-98 Victory (Wed, 27 Feb 2013 03:49:07 GMT)
    Dion Waiters scored 25 points to help make up for the absence of Kyrie Irving, and the Cleveland Cavaliers snapped an 11-game losing streak against the Chicago Bulls with a 101-98 victory on Tuesday night.

  • [New York Times] Magic End Road Skid at 10, Rout 76ers (Wed, 27 Feb 2013 02:51:56 GMT)
    Arron Afflalo and Tobias Harris scored 16 points apiece, and the Orlando Magic snapped a 10-game road losing streak with a 98-84 victory over the Philadelphia 76ers on Tuesday night.

  • [New York Times] Off the Dribble: The Baffling Benching of Lopez (Wed, 27 Feb 2013 02:47:31 GMT)
    Center Brook Lopez, the Nets’ leading scorer, has sat out the fourth quarter in three of four games since his first All-Star appearance.

  • [New York Times] Hibbert Ejected for Fight in Pacers-Warriors Game (Wed, 27 Feb 2013 02:31:25 GMT)
    Indiana center Roy Hibbert was ejected and four other players received technical fouls after a skirmish between the Pacers and Golden State Warriors spilled into the seats behind the baseline.

  • [New York Times] Dennis Rodman Arrives in North Korea for Tour (Wed, 27 Feb 2013 02:23:20 GMT)
    The frequently pierced former N.B.A. star known as the Worm embarked on a tour with three Harlem Globetrotters for a documentary film.

  • [New York Times] Off the Dribble: Revamped Warriors Use Small Fixes for Big Gains (Wed, 27 Feb 2013 02:10:56 GMT)
    After a season in which they won only 23 games for a .348 winning percentage, the Golden State Warriors are 10 games over .500 this season and have a talented young core of players.

  • [New York Times] Dennis Rodman Gets His ‘Gangnam Style’ Mixed Up in Pyongyang (Wed, 27 Feb 2013 00:15:40 GMT)
    Former NBA star Dennis Rodman appears to have mixed up his Koreas on a visit to Pyongyang, tweeting that he expected to run into South Korean rapper Psy on his trip to the North.

  • [New York Post] Knicks’ 3-point plan: Shoot, shoot & shoot again (Wed, 27 Feb 2013 02:47:56 -0500)
    As the final seconds of an intense scrimmage clicked off the clock at the Knicks practice facility yesterday, Chris Copeland launched a baseline jumper that swished through the net to give the white-jersey team a buzzer-beating tie, yes a tie, with the blue team.
    You would have thought they had…

  • [New York Post] Jackson wowed by 1st Garden gig (Wed, 27 Feb 2013 02:12:49 -0500)
    Mark Jackson finally will make his coaching homecoming Wednesday night at the Garden. To some New Yorkers, it comes 5 1/2 years too late.
    Jackson, runner-up to Mike D’Antoni in 2007 to become the Knicks’ head coach, arrives with his swashbuckling Warriors club, led by All-Star ex-Knick David…

  • [New York Post] Anthony praises Amar’e for accepting reduced role (Wed, 27 Feb 2013 03:01:05 -0500)
    Carmelo Anthony and Amar’e Stoudemire have not grown into the perfect tandem, but Anthony has grown to love Stoudemire for his sacrifices.
    One day after coach Mike Woodson revealed Stoudemire is on a 30-minute cap the rest of the season, Anthony saluted the Knicks $100 million backup power forward…

  • 25 comments on “Knicks Morning News (Wednesday, Feb 27 2013)

    1. danvt

      Hi, I’m back from my existential crisis of last week. The IND game really threw me.

      Last year, the happiest part of my season was when we beat them back to back. I thought it was significant that we had surpassed them seemingly. I like to look more at stuff like that as road maps. Everybody talks championships but fewer people talk about landmarks along the way. I like that we’re ahead of the Celtics. I would LOVE to win the Atlantic division. If that happens, I can be satisfied with improvement (once the sting of playoff vivisection at the hands of MIA goes away). Then I can look forward to June for another DLee or Shumpert. Then I can look forward to FA’s and trades with the idea that we land one more impact piece to add to an improving squad.

      But that nice little bit of reverie came crashing down with the gigantic loss in the Hoosier state. IND just seemed superior in every way. From Paul George basically matching Carmelo all the way down. They play efficiently, without ego, they are deep, well coached, and they look every bit like the second best team in the east. So, now, I’m looking at the Knicks maxing out IN THIS ERA as, perhaps, the third best team in the east. And I’m thinking to myself, “You mean, I’ve been waiting since 2008 for this?”

      The rebuilding effort after the disastrous tenure of he who shall not be named was not handled as well as it could have been, clearly. Grunwald has been excellent and has done some amazing work since the lockout but that’s kind of like John McCain calling the surge strategy a success.

      We should have kept our young players, kept our draft picks, made careful signings, and, most importantly, held out for one of the top five players in the league to give a max contract to.

      So, no, in all likelihood there will be no championship for these Knicks. And, furthermore, can I have faith in an organization that puts marquee value above everything? I don’t know.

    2. danvt

      danvt: We should have kept our young players, kept our draft picks, made careful signings, and, most importantly, held out for one of the top five players in the league to give a max contract to.

      Geez, what a hypocrite. How many posts did you make defending Melo and Amar’e?

    3. danvt

      danvt: Geez, what a hypocrite. How many posts did you make defending Melo and Amar’e?

      Dag! Stop trollin’ dude! Meanwhile, I’m not the owner. I’m just like you (me). I’m just a sucker fan, with my NYK shirt from the Chris Childs era, sittin’ in front of the expensive cable box teaching my son the same. I got sold a bill of goods!

    4. danvt

      danvt: So, now, I’m looking at the Knicks maxing out IN THIS ERA as, perhaps, the third best team in the east. And I’m thinking to myself, “You mean, I’ve been waiting since 2008 for this?”

      Ooh chilling, but it may not be as bad as all of that. Maybe they can trade Shumpert?

    5. CaptainB

      Its an 82 game season and we are an older team. It would do some of you well not to take every game as the defining game of the season.

      Despite how the knicks have played, they are still #1 in the division and 3rd in the East. Besides Miami and Indiana (as of late), noone else is blowing the conference away.

    6. Frank

      big game tonight — looks like we might luck out if some of the Warriors are suspended tonight for that mess in Indiana last night. since that spilled over into the stands, there are probably going to be some hefty suspensions levied. Hibbert for sure, but my guess is David Lee and Steph Curry get at least a game.

    7. cgreene

      Frank, altho it would be nice to play a stripped down GS team to assure a win I am more in the mindset of wanting to see the Knicks just plain beat a good team at home. So in a way I would be disappointed.

    8. Brian Cronin

      Frank, altho it would be nice to play a stripped down GS team to assure a win I am more in the mindset of wanting to see the Knicks just plain beat a good team at home. So in a way I would be disappointed.

      While I totally understand that thinking, I think a win is so important right now that you gotta take it where you can get it, even if it is against a depleted opponent.

    9. Owen

      Not sure that is what he is saying. Seems like it’s more the standard Lee is better than Stat now, but Stat isn’t bad and he got us Melo and Chandler line.

      It’s an interesting thought on why Melo and Stat seem to be meshing better this year, because Stat is playing more like Lee. Don’t really know that it’s true but fine to speculate…..

      I do wish we had just signed Lee to a cheap long term deal, but i have flogged that pony enough….

      Frank:
      btw, if we needed any more evidence that mainstream writers read Knickerblogger, Jared Zwerling just came out with a “in hindsight should we have kept Lee instead of signing STAT” article.

      http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/36967/opening-tip-melostat-or-melolee

    10. Brian Cronin

      Overall, while Lee would obviously provide more points and rebounds than Stoudemire — especially because of the minutes differential — the Knicks wouldn’t be the same Knicks right now if it weren’t for STAT.

      Wow, talk about saying something while actually saying nothing. “Even though X would be greater than Y, things would be different. Article done!”

    11. Frank

      Owen: It’s an interesting thought on why Melo and Stat seem to be meshing better this year, because Stat is playing more like Lee. Don’t really know that it’s true but fine to speculate…..

      if you look at their on/off numbers together, they’re good when they play with Tyson, but awful when they’re on the court and Tyson’s off (-16 per 100 poss awful). I posted about it a couple days ago — that Melo+Tyson is great, Amare+Tyson is great, Amare+Melo+Tyson is great, but Amare+Melo is bad bad.

      btw I am very much coming around to the idea that a 100% motivated Tyson Chandler is the most indispensable player on this team, if not the best overall player. If you spend enough time looking at on/off court numbers, his value really stands out. Part of that is that we haven’t had a competent back up for him ever, but even when Rasheed was there, the defense was ok but the offense was terrible without Tyson on the court.

    12. Thomas B.

      danvt:

      Dag! Stop trollin’ dude! Meanwhile, I’m not the owner. I’m just like you (me). I’m just a sucker fan, with my NYK shirt from the Chris Childs era, sittin’ in front of the expensive cable box teaching my son the same. I got sold a bill of goods!

      I do so love performance art. Bravo.

    13. Nick C.

      Brian Cronin: Wow, talk about saying something while actually saying nothing. “Even though X would be greater than Y, things would be different. Article done!”

      I thought the article said nothing other than talking in circles about old news. Are journalism standards that low?

    14. Frank

      Nick C.: I thought the article said nothing other than talking in circles about old news. Are journalism standards that low?

      yeah sorry for linking to it – i just thought it was of marginal interest that our conversations here yield actual articles on the mother ship.

    15. Brian Cronin

      Oh, it was definitely worth linking to, Frank. It was an interesting topic (especially, as you note, in light of our recent conversations). It was just shocking how poor his response was to the question.

    16. Nick C.

      Saddest thing is any number of posts on the topic from either side have been better sourced and more erudite. Alas, unpaid as well. It was worth a read even if that read was disappointing.

    17. ess-dog

      I don’t think keeping Lee would’ve been an upgrade from Stat, injury history not included. Frankly, I think we fared ok. A Stat/Melo core isn’t bad especially with the addition of Chandler.

      I mean, the only way to be really good is to be really terrible for a fair amount of time, and Dolan just won’t allow that. We’ll never get a chance to draft a Lebron or even an A. Davis.

      Hell the ‘win now’ Nets are in much worse shape than us. I just still think we should’ve leveraged Lin into something better than the crappy signings we ended up with. Ray has been passable, but Kidd is clearly not working and neither is Camby. The summer league was a joke and we got no help from that. JR and Novak have regressed. Even though the Chandler move was great, Grunny really hasn’t done anything worthwhile with the bench. We needed one or two surprises for the Melo/Stat core to get over the hump, and I just don’t think we were creative enough with all our roster spots.

    18. Frank

      yowch. Rasheed basically out for year (8 weeks but I can’t see him coming back) with metatarsal fracture in his foot. bye bye Rasheed, was fun while it lasted.

      that sucks.

    19. thenamestsam

      Man, the Knicks are the weirdest org when it comes to injuries. What exactly was the benefit of calling him day-to-day all these weeks and months?

      Sheed being gone is definitely a loss. Hopefully K-Mart can give us some of the same things, although the thing I liked best about Sheed was the he was at least a token floor spacer. Even if his shooting is pretty horrid from deep teams still guarded him out there which made him a decent pair with Tyson in some bigger lineups. It’ll be interesting to see how K-Mart fits in.

    20. nyk8806

      BALL (of the foot) DON’T LIE! If K-Mart/Camby can’t supply 15+ quality minutes a night soon, this team is toast come playoffs. That’s the gamble we took with a “veteran” team.

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